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      Naturespirit`s non-dream related artwork

      Over the last three days I have been really practising with the wacom, and have formed a routine of doing a 'warmup' before a proper painting.
      Here's what my routine would look like:

      Then





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      I think I over-highlighted the second warmup.
      But, overall I am happy with my achievements.

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      That spider looks pretty good. I like how the brush strokes look like fine hair.

      I notice in some places the colors look a little flat. Even if you want to stick with this painting style where you use very broad brush strokes and blocky color. (I think you should, It's nice) You have to bring out the detail and visual interest with variation in your color. Like in the instance with the earth and planet in space. Add brown for deserts and dark blue for deeper oceans, not to mention shading to show the day/night terminator. Even if it's just a small little bit it will really help to make the drawings look less flat.
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      They look cute. : ) Something that would help is practicing drawing objects in real life. You can start by sketching a line that shows the axis of your object. Than sketching out simple shapes you think make the object. An example would be how an apple can have a circle shape and a pear can have a circle and cone shape to it. Don't forget to think of your object as 3d and having volume when you sketch.Than you keep on sketching it until you feel that you have gotten to know your object enough to outline it with a darker line.This is the best I could explain it in text. ^^" Sorry if it sounds confusing
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      Quote Originally Posted by JadeGreen View Post
      That spider looks pretty good. I like how the brush strokes look like fine hair.

      I notice in some places the colors look a little flat. Even if you want to stick with this painting style where you use very broad brush strokes and blocky color. (I think you should, It's nice) You have to bring out the detail and visual interest with variation in your color. Like in the instance with the earth and planet in space. Add brown for deserts and dark blue for deeper oceans, not to mention shading to show the day/night terminator. Even if it's just a small little bit it will really help to make the drawings look less flat.
      Thanks JadeGreen, I think that is an excellent idea to bring out more visual interest by variations in color!

      They look cute. : ) Something that would help is practicing drawing objects in real life. You can start by sketching a line that shows the axis of your object. Than sketching out simple shapes you think make the object. An example would be how an apple can have a circle shape and a pear can have a circle and cone shape to it. Don't forget to think of your object as 3d and having volume when you sketch.Than you keep on sketching it until you feel that you have gotten to know your object enough to outline it with a darker line.This is the best I could explain it in text. ^^" Sorry if it sounds confusing
      I shall start doing that, and I think it should greatly help!

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      Quote Originally Posted by JadeGreen View Post
      That spider looks pretty good. I like how the brush strokes look like fine hair.

      I notice in some places the colors look a little flat. Even if you want to stick with this painting style where you use very broad brush strokes and blocky color. (I think you should, It's nice) You have to bring out the detail and visual interest with variation in your color. Like in the instance with the earth and planet in space. Add brown for deserts and dark blue for deeper oceans, not to mention shading to show the day/night terminator. Even if it's just a small little bit it will really help to make the drawings look less flat.
      Thanks JadeGreen, I think that is an excellent idea to bring out more visual interest by variations in color!

      They look cute. : ) Something that would help is practicing drawing objects in real life. You can start by sketching a line that shows the axis of your object. Than sketching out simple shapes you think make the object. An example would be how an apple can have a circle shape and a pear can have a circle and cone shape to it. Don't forget to think of your object as 3d and having volume when you sketch.Than you keep on sketching it until you feel that you have gotten to know your object enough to outline it with a darker line.This is the best I could explain it in text. ^^" Sorry if it sounds confusing
      I shall start doing that, and I think it should greatly help!


      PS: Freakily, I dreamt last night that you would both reply.

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      Your welcome. Glad it will help.^w^ Also,you double posted. XD Hehe That is a funny coincidence. Owo Maybe you saw the future or... it could be cause were active on the art section of this forum.
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      Did these just then. Not feeling that well.

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      I'm sorry to hear, get well soon

      I like your enthousiasm, you seem to draw very loosely. But I fear that with this method, you'll stagnate your skills and get frustrated later.
      Painting and drawing takes time, 4-5 hours or 1 hour for a simple study are not unheard-of. Enjoy the time.
      You draw in symbols, they are by definition flat. A symbol is just a recognisable shape of an object.
      You need to draw and think in form instead of lines, understand light, colour, etc.
      Use References! If you want to draw a candy stick, gather photo's, real-life objects.
      Ask yourself questions. In what pattern does the red line wind-up around the candy stick?
      What's the value and chroma of the red colour? How do I render it glossy? How would the colour shift in a moon-lit environment? etc
      If you know the object, only then can you play around with it and re-invent it to your dreams image of that object.
      On brush technique, in theory you only need a hard and soft brush, pay attention to those hard and soft edges.
      A rendering process could look something like this: Paint -> Erase -> Paint -> Erase -> etc.
      With the help of Layers and masks, we get more control. Paint on top of another layer and have those images seperated.
      If Photoshop or other painting programs with layer functionality aren't an option, use Krita it's free and good.
      Best advice I can give is always draw a lot, and draw from life.

      Best of Luck
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      I just read and did the exercises from "drawing on the right side of the brain." and my drawing went from symbols to lines, relationships, lights, etc. I havent practiced it much, but my drawing still looks a thousand times better than it did. I am obviously still a beginner, but i am beginning to see and understand art better. I am working on animals and landscape and hope to make my dream worlds and creatures come to waking soon.
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      Sensei, it's nice to hear that.
      I'm not familiar with those exercises.
      Be sure to not let them become a chore, they need to remain fun to get the most benefit out of them.
      Challenge yourself and fail a lot All this knowledge to learn art is readily available but there are no shortcuts.
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      I'm sorry to hear, get well soon

      I like your enthousiasm, you seem to draw very loosely. But I fear that with this method, you'll stagnate your skills and get frustrated later.
      Painting and drawing takes time, 4-5 hours or 1 hour for a simple study are not unheard-of. Enjoy the time.
      You draw in symbols, they are by definition flat. A symbol is just a recognisable shape of an object.
      You need to draw and think in form instead of lines, understand light, colour, etc.
      Use References! If you want to draw a candy stick, gather photo's, real-life objects.
      Ask yourself questions. In what pattern does the red line wind-up around the candy stick?
      What's the value and chroma of the red colour? How do I render it glossy? How would the colour shift in a moon-lit environment? etc
      If you know the object, only then can you play around with it and re-invent it to your dreams image of that object.
      On brush technique, in theory you only need a hard and soft brush, pay attention to those hard and soft edges.
      A rendering process could look something like this: Paint -> Erase -> Paint -> Erase -> etc.
      With the help of Layers and masks, we get more control. Paint on top of another layer and have those images seperated.
      If Photoshop or other painting programs with layer functionality aren't an option, use Krita it's free and good.
      Best advice I can give is always draw a lot, and draw from life.

      Best of Luck
      Man, I wish I got this kind of constructive critique on MY work. You're lucky, naturespirit.

      This is all very good advice. I suggest you look into these things; I don't really have much to add here. This is a pretty exhaustive review of what I think is working in your art and what could be improved.
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      I think I'd like to add that there's nothing wrong with starting out with shapes or symbols in order to get to know your object. Also, there are more techniques to learn when it comes to art but I think Naturespirit would benefit more If he focuses on one thing at a time before he can do the rest. Perhaps drawing the objects would make it easier to paint them? You don't even have to try shading yet. Just focus on drawing the objects until you feel ready to move on to the next step.Ofcourse having a teacher by your side would help greatly when your drawing but looking up tutorials might help you get into the drawing thinking process.
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      Thanks for all the replies! Sorry there isn't enough room to quote you!
      I'll look out the this book 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain'
      Sounds like something I'd be interested in.
      I shall do some more off-screen sketching (help my lucids getting off the screen!).


      For info, I am using 'Corel Draw Essentials 5'; it came with my tablet.

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