New MILD variation

**stjimmy** · 09-01-2010 07:35 PM

I have this idea, it's a kind of MILD.

As with Stephen LaBerge's traditional MILD technique, this would probably best be done after waking from a few hours of sleep (4 1/2 at the very least) or during an afternoon nap.

What you do is fall asleep while imagining yourself being a guest in a talk show where lucid dreaming is being discussed. Imagine the host asking you questions and you will answer them and so forth.

This I think could work because it makes you fall asleep thinking about lucid dreaming (the idea behind the traditional MILD technique) but, as opposed to repeating a mantra which can get boring thus allowing your mind to wander, your talk show scene can be as interesting as you want and has more elements to keep your attention from drifting. This increases the probability that your very last thought before falling asleep was about lucid dreaming.

It also has the added bonus that you could "accidentally" WILD, that is, you could find that your interview scene itself shapes into an actual dream and, hopefuly, since the dream will involve lucid dreaming, that will cause you to become lucid.

I've yet to test this enough but I think it sounds like a good method, at least on paper. Please let me know what you think.

**Snowboy** · 09-01-2010 07:53 PM

That sounds interesting, but that sounds similar to a V-WILD or a V-MILD (yay I coined new term!).

**Elucive** · 09-01-2010 08:41 PM

You don't have to repeat a mantra until you fall asleep. You can repeat it maybe for five minutes then just sleep normally. Most people are going to keep themselves awake visualizing that. People tend to get a misconception of what MILD really is. It's not about mantras, or autosuggestion.

Go boil some eggs in a pot. Tell yourself that you will remember to come back in 15 minutes. I guarantee you won't remember to come back, and by the time you do, they'll be burnt. Do it everyday. By day three or four, you won't forget no more and you will randomly remember, "Oh shit, the eggs".*

MILD is the same thing. It won't work in the beginnning, but do it every night, and it WILL. It's going to take more practice than the eggs (obviously) because the intention has to be carried over into sleep. Think about what you're doing. You're trying to remember to become lucid. If you do MILD every night, in time you will remember to become lucid. After that, it will become second nature. Why? Because you're trying to remember the SAME thing every night. There's a reason Laberge preaches this technique. It fucking works.

**SuddenGun007** · 09-05-2010 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Elucive

"Oh shit, the eggs"

Hahaha, that made me laugh really hard. Thanks for that.

**jguitar** · 09-05-2010 02:21 AM

ive got to try mild every night. its not a technique, really. its a habit to get into. a wild is a technique in my eyes. ill try this though. it is funner

**Elucive** · 09-05-2010 04:07 AM

Honestly, it doesn't matter what you use to get lucid, the end result is the same. Well, not entirely the same... WILDs DO seem to be more vivid. Or maybe we just expect them to be. Everybody can learn to DILD. But I guess it'll never be enough because people wanna say, "Oh yeah baby, I can WILD".

And yeah, that includes me.

**dakotahnok** · 09-05-2010 04:12 AM

Visuals are apart of MILD.. Its called dream incubating... It can be a talkshow or... ANYTHING.. But make sure its something you enjoy and you can relate to.

**Elucive** · 09-05-2010 04:24 AM

I disagree. When I MILD, I rarely become lucid from what I was visualizing. I just suddenly remember what I was supposed to do.

**stjimmy** · 09-06-2010 04:17 AM

Elucive, you should write a tutorial about your MILD technique

**Elucive** · 09-06-2010 04:34 AM

Lol, it's nothing special. I just do it exactly how Laberge explains it in his book. I guess it works so well for me because i've attempted it so many times it's programmed into my head. I believe anyone can have success with this technique if they just stay persistent. Do it soooo many times that it just becomes second nature..

**stjimmy** · 09-06-2010 05:03 PM

Do you do it during the day or do you wake up to do it during the night?

**Elucive** · 09-06-2010 08:48 PM

Well, it depends. My day starts at 8am. But if something comes up and I get to stay in bed till 10, that's when I do it. I just repeat to myself a few times that I'll remember to recognize I'm dreaming. It's kinda hard to explain though because it's not really the sentence itself I'm repeating, it's the IDEA. The idea of remembering I'm dreaming is what I think about. After a couple minutes, I'm set. I just know that there's no way I can forget to become lucid. I go to sleep normally and then all of a sudden I'll notice something weird, or just randomly remember, "Oh yeah I remember now!! I'm dreaming!!".

**stjimmy** · 09-07-2010 12:02 AM

But I imagine that to be able to do this on demand whenever you get to get up at 10, you must have done it much more frequently at first, right?

**Elucive** · 09-07-2010 01:13 AM

Basically.

**WaterDreamer** · 09-10-2010 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Elucive

You don't have to repeat a mantra until you fall asleep. You can repeat it maybe for five minutes then just sleep normally. Most people are going to keep themselves awake visualizing that. People tend to get a misconception of what MILD really is. It's not about mantras, or autosuggestion.

Go boil some eggs in a pot. Tell yourself that you will remember to come back in 15 minutes. I guarantee you won't remember to come back, and by the time you do, they'll be burnt. Do it everyday. By day three or four, you won't forget no more and you will randomly remember, "Oh shit, the eggs".*

MILD is the same thing. It won't work in the beginnning, but do it every night, and it WILL. It's going to take more practice than the eggs (obviously) because the intention has to be carried over into sleep. Think about what you're doing. You're trying to remember to become lucid. If you do MILD every night, in time you will remember to become lucid. After that, it will become second nature. Why? Because you're trying to remember the SAME thing every night. There's a reason Laberge preaches this technique. It fucking works.

I appreciate the insight. You really helped clarify some things for me.