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      Theory behind SSILD

      This post is a reply I gave to a SSILD user on another forum. It explains what I believe to be the theory behind SSILD. Previously I have always refrained from getting into such theories, or rather, hypothesis. I still don't like the idea of explaining things with unproven theories, but this time I feel the post may actually help SSILD users to use the technique more effectively. Thus, here it is:

      Let me give you one theory which I like the most (I'm not saying it is THE theory. After all, we know so little about these things in general, so it is always better to stay curious and modest than pretending we know it all.)

      First, let me provide a brief overview about the Focus Point model of consciousness. In this model, our consciousness is a vast and seamless "entity" (for lack of better terms) which covers a wide spectrum of "areas." These areas include our waking state, dream, everything in between and beyond (higher state of consciousness). Just like how camera lense works, "focusing" on an area makes that area appear clearer, and other areas become blurry. Once it's completely in focus, it becomes the focal point of our "self-awareness". In this model, falling asleep and entering dreams is essentially the result of our focus shifting into the dream area. What we typically see as a slow and gradual process (falling asleep) can in fact happen instantly if you could manage to shift your focus real quick. Whether or not this has any scientific basis I truly do not know. However, through years of practice I can indeed do this shift "manually" and sometimes very quickly -- shifting from complete waking state (with small degrees of controllable physical movements still present at the time of shift) to other states in mere seconds. One interesting state is the intermediate state between waking and dreaming. In this state, our self-awareness is no longer confined in our physical body, but it has not yet entered the "dreamland" and assumed a "dream body." Instead, it exists in pure intangible, shapeless state. Under this condition you can proceed to form a dream deliberately, or re-focus to move to a higher state of consciousness. This state is also extremely "fragile" because with but the slightest focus change you will return to the physical. In fact, it is not uncommon to be able to feel and command both the physical and mental at the same time, and that can produce some truly amazing results! Okay let's not get carried away, LOL. Anyway, because our physical input and output are not fully "shielded" from us at this fragile state, our "attention" can be rather easily distracted. For example, sudden sounds, abrupt change of ambient light, physical touches... when they occur we inevitably "pay attention" to them and as a result we change our Focus Point back to the waking state.

      As you can see from the above, the way to move our Focus Point around is by "paying attention". If we pay a lot of attention to the physical then we remain physical. Likewise if we pay more attention to things beyond physical then we are moving the focus point of our self-awareness toward them much closer. That, is the theory behind SSILD.

      During the SSILD cycles, the first one is almost entirely loaded with the physical. You stare at the blackness behind your closed eyelids, that is physical. If your room is not completely dark you may even see the outside light, and that's even more physical. You listen, and your ears are filled with outside noises -- fans humming, wind blowing, and all that weird stuff. You try to feel and all you could feel is your bodily sensations -- blanket rubbing against your skin, some itches, and that horrible backache, etc and etc. However, as you do more cycles, you may start to notice that these external sensations begin to fade, and some "internal" ones begin to appear. The more you cycle, the more attention you are paying to the internal sensations, and less attention are being paid to the external/physical ones. And that, moves your focus point closer to other areas in your consciousness. Think of this as a gentle massage of the mind. You are loosening the grips of the physical and warming up your mind for the more fun stuff.

      Then you fall asleep. There are now more chances for you to become lucid in dreams because you have brought more focus/self-awareness with you. Or you may wake up into a false awakening. I suspect this is due to the fact that we all wake up multiple times at the end of each sleep cycle, and immediately fall asleep again. Since our focus point has shifted away from the physical so much during the exercise, when we briefly wake up we don't have the necessary physical input so our mind simply makes it up for such occasions and immediately goes to sleep again.

      Sometimes we do just wake up for real. However, our link with the physical world is still weakened due to the exercise, and thus we have much better chance to manually shift our focus at this stage. This is very powerful stuff. Once you can utilize this, you will almost be able to achieve 100% success with the technique.

      Additional note: I always encourage doing SSILD in totally relaxed, lazy manner, and allow your mind to drift into a trance. The trance allows you to relax very quickly and divert your attention from the externals. People often run into problems with SSILD because they try so hard to bring out the sensations, and all that does is to glue their attentions to the external ones. Traditional meditation/relaxation techniques do not mix in well either, because focusing on relaxing your body is effectively, well, focusing on the physicals.

      I hope this explains it rather than causing more confusion, LOL. Again, I must stress that this Focus Point model is just one way to look at this "consciousness" thing, and by no means I'm pitching it as a "fact". It will be a lot more useful if you simply treat it as a "tool". And in that case, it works wonderfully.

      The user had some questions so here is another reply from me
      Questions are welcome, and no, it's no Disturbance at all, LOL.

      1. You do each cycles in exact same manner, regardless of the sensation. Be it with or without the sensations, you just keep cycling through them. As you do more cycles, you get deeper into the trance (mind drifting back and forth), and you will notice that the external sensations become faded. For example, the humming from that ever-present AC unit no longer bothers you much, if not having completely faded away. Meanwhile, you may begin to notice the noises "in your head". And as you pay more attention to them they may become more pronounced. This has the effect of shifting your focus away from the physicals. The beauty of SSILD is that you do not have to do this deliberately. The trance works like a gentle wave that carries you away from the physicals. Thus, you need to ease up, and allow the trance to do the trick for you. Even if you absolutely do not feel anything you should continue to cycle, knowing confidently you are slowing detaching yourself from the grip of the physical world.

      2. Typically 4 cycles are all you need. Some people fall asleep in the first couple of cycles and that is no good -- you are not done with your "mental massage" yet! Some people find it harder to fall asleep if they do more cycles, but that actually means they are doing the exercise incorrectly -- instead of riding with the wave, they are fighting against it! (People with traditional meditation/WILD backgrounds tend to do this.) Once you master the cycles, you can do as many rounds as you wish. You can massage your mind to such point that soon after your stop doing the cycles, you can shift your focus point in an instant and enter the dream world while being fully conscious. This, of course, is for more advanced users, so I won't recommend it to everyone.

      3. Depend on what your beliefs are, the Focus Point model may contradict with what you believe to be the "truth". In order to not get into debate of whether or not this model TRULY describes the nature of our consciousness, I decided to call it a "tool". As long as it makes things easier then why not use it, LOL. For all matters of intent we now know that SSILD works, and this model seems not only explains it but compliments it quite nicely.

      I hope this helps

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      Quote Originally Posted by areyoume View Post
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      Hmmm... julinomber2 on tieba?

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      Quote Originally Posted by CosmicIron View Post
      Hmmm... julinomber2 on tieba?
      LOL,no,i am the guy who you was talking to in the other forum,i'am who asked those Qestions,i'am ghanemhaithem
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      Quote Originally Posted by areyoume View Post
      LOL,no,i am the guy who you was talking to in the other forum,i'am who asked those Qestions,i'am ghanemhaithem

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      Thank you for explaining it! I think I get it more now. I've only tried SSILD a couple times, all those times I ended up in sleep paralysis. Pretty sure I did it wrong haha. Anyway, think I'm gonna give it a shot again soon. Thanks for this clarification

      Maybe it's a dream and if I scream, it will burst at the seams.

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      Quote Originally Posted by paigeyemps View Post
      Thank you for explaining it! I think I get it more now. I've only tried SSILD a couple times, all those times I ended up in sleep paralysis. Pretty sure I did it wrong haha. Anyway, think I'm gonna give it a shot again soon. Thanks for this clarification
      Blimey. If you go into sleep paralysis every time then that's an easy LD right there. Surely that's what you want?

      From what I remember of the original SSILD post, there can be a variety of outcomes to doing the techniques, but overall it helps with achieving lucidity.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nivv View Post
      Blimey. If you go into sleep paralysis every time then that's an easy LD right there. Surely that's what you want?

      From what I remember of the original SSILD post, there can be a variety of outcomes to doing the techniques, but overall it helps with achieving lucidity.
      Ahhh, alas, not exactly. It's a weird kind of SP. I've been in SP numerous times, but nothing like this. It's like my upper body is falling downwards, and it's very uncomfortable. I tried many things in order to transition into the dream, but nothing has worked yet. I don't even have any form of hallucinations, just that weird feeling off my upper body dangling, haha. Hopefully when I try it out again, I can figure something out before I get frustrated and give up :3

      Maybe it's a dream and if I scream, it will burst at the seams.

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      Quote Originally Posted by paigeyemps View Post
      Ahhh, alas, not exactly. It's a weird kind of SP. I've been in SP numerous times, but nothing like this. It's like my upper body is falling downwards, and it's very uncomfortable. I tried many things in order to transition into the dream, but nothing has worked yet. I don't even have any form of hallucinations, just that weird feeling off my upper body dangling, haha. Hopefully when I try it out again, I can figure something out before I get frustrated and give up :3
      It's not SP, just a variation of the many sensations you may experience while falling asleep. Instead of fighting it, you should go with it and allow it to increase its range and motion. Once sufficiently increased you should be able to do a nose-pinch RC and just get up and start playing.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CosmicIron View Post
      It's not SP, just a variation of the many sensations you may experience while falling asleep. Instead of fighting it, you should go with it and allow it to increase its range and motion. Once sufficiently increased you should be able to do a nose-pinch RC and just get up and start playing.

      Ahh that would explain why it's such a different feeling from my normal SP. Almost every SP i get into is basically just the same, but the feelings i get from trying SSILD are odd. That would make much more sense. Thank you!

      Maybe it's a dream and if I scream, it will burst at the seams.

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      This cleared bunch of things for me

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