Thread: Harnessing sexual energy for LDing?

I wonder if it works with hunger and thirst.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

I wonder if it works with hunger and thirst.

well i've done water fasts before, and although i didn't pay much attention to the dreams at that time, the awareness during the day is awesome, it's very clear and constant, more so than a sexual fast yields. i bet you would see a difference in your dreams.

The Male Deer Exercise

To be honest there just isn't a whole lot of reliable scientific evidence to support that not masturbating or having sex will improve one's focus or ability to learn. It's seen as a pseudo-science by a lot of sources, and any noticed improvements are thought to just be the placebo effect.

Originally Posted by TimeDragon97

Furthermore, the Natives were driven to near-extinction because the Europeans were more advanced. I doubt it had much to do with sex.

Actually, timedragon, natives were killed in the majority by their lack of immunity to deadly European diseases. Historians say upwards of 95% of the population of the Americas was killed by disease following the arrival of the Europeans. This was caused mainly by small pox.

Guns Germs & Steel: Variables. Smallpox | PBS

Ah, of course! How could I have forgotten?

But, that only further proves my point; the Natives being nearly wiped out had nothing to do with sex.

Originally Posted by TheGritz

To be honest there just isn't a whole lot of reliable scientific evidence to support that not masturbating or having sex will improve one's focus or ability to learn. It's seen as a pseudo-science by a lot of sources, and any noticed improvements are thought to just be the placebo effect.

Ah, thank you for bringing that up- There isn't a whole lot. But there is a bit. I think you would be able to find more if it wasn't a taboo topic. Most of the increased focus from abstinence has to do with using artificial stimuli for sexual release, and/or your mind becoming accustomed to the dopamine-producing effects of sexual release. With so many dopamine "hits" from masturbation or orgasm, many develop a tolerance. Cutting out the "hits" like any drug frequently can force sexual energy into other areas (for example: REM sleep & nocturnal emissions)


The psuedo science you reference are in fact collections of experimenters (albiet informal) who have taken the who very frequently go in thinking "There's no way this can work" and yet still notice effects.

The main original pioneer of this, the TED talk fellow (Gary Wilson in Glasgow) himself explains that this is not peer reviewed science, but that there are strong indicators that forgoing release (specifically using artificial stimuli) can be quite effective for focus in daily life (and for our purposes, lucid dreams)

Either way, whatever your position, the sexual energy you won't release in waking life tends to make an appearence in dreams. If you start to identify these sexual dreams as dream signs, you can in fact become lucid much more easily.

I for one, sleep much more "shallowly" since refraining 1 month ago. I've not changed any other variable in my life. I wake more frequently but I recall a fragment during nearly each awakening. Lucid dreaming hasn't been the focus, but I imagine these quick awakenings set me up for opportunities for a quick WILD

Originally Posted by TheGritz

To be honest there just isn't a whole lot of reliable scientific evidence to support that not masturbating or having sex will improve one's focus or ability to learn. It's seen as a pseudo-science by a lot of sources, and any noticed improvements are thought to just be the placebo effect.

It's not pseudo science. Think about sperm & semen contains many vitamins, minerals, and energy (If you believe in things like chi). Go masturbate 20 times today and tell me how you feel afterward. The only reason one has much success in is because no one transmutes/channels the energy into other task so they just end up becoming horny and aggressive gorillas. For most people, Semen retention without breaks is just a complete waste of time and will get you no where.

I've been practicing the deer exercise I can't explain but it really turns the crude horniness into a relaxed sensual feeling. Eventually I'll get to the point where I can transfer the semen, shoot it up my spine, to the brain, and into the pineal gland for higher purposes!!!