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      Failed Wbtb

      Ok, so I went to sleep around 1 AM, normally 10 PM, I set my alarm for 7 AM to do a WBTB.

      At around 4 AM i woke up naturally and wrote down some dreams.
      Went to sleep without ease.

      At 7 AM I woke up and moved and drank some water.
      At 8 AM I decided to go back to bed and listen to some guided meditation since it was very light outside.

      After a while I think I saw Hypnagogic Imagery; I saw a beach and a forest sideways as if I was laying down, later I a new landscape of a mountain. There was also this real life visualization clearer than I had ever seen. Now the thing was, I couldnt fully rest because it was way to light.

      Any tips?

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      The only suggestion I could make is to try thicker curtains! It sounds like you were really close, but sometimes excessive light can intrude on dreams and make getting proper rest difficult. The next time you see a really clear visualisation, try to look at it very intently. This sounds silly, but look around with your eyes. Looking around your visualised landscape is a simple, low-risk way of interacting with it. You might or might not be close enough to being asleep that REM-atonia has kicked in, so if you were to try and do some conventional stabilisation techniques (rubbing your hands together, touching things etc.) to anchor yourself in this quasi-dream, you might move for real and risk ruining it.

      What you want to happen when you look around is for the visualisation to respond the same way as everyday visual perception does. When we move our eyes around a scene in waking life, the scene stays fixed. This interaction provides us with feedback about the world around us, telling us it's stable, it exists independently of us. Engaging the action-perception loop like this is fundamentally what convinces a sleepy brain into accepting the reality of a dream, and it's what all stabilisation techniques are built on. In this case, where a tactile stabilisation/anchoring technique (touching - action, and feeling - perception) might be too risky, a simple visual saccade accompanied by feedback from the visual modality should be a safe but effective alternative. Good luck!

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      Thanks, I dont think ill get darker curtains but I will just sleep at normal times haha.
      Also looking around in the dreamscape is hard since it changes quite often. I'm not talking about gentle changes but from being on a beach to being above clouds. Anyways, I will try WBTB tonight as well, I will inform you.

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