Thread: LD Experiment with Scheduled Tasks

I am going to give that a shot today =)
Good stuff!

Make sure to turn the volume down. Because at night there are no sounds and the lowest setting for the volume will be enough for you to hear it. Otherwise the loud sound just wakes you up!
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that is a really good idea! I dont want to disturb my husband, but he's a deeper sleeper so maybe it would'nt.

Jill beat me to it. It wouldn't work for me because every time it said 'You are dreaming', my wife would slug me!

Top class idea. My computer isn't in my bedroom so instead I created an hour long blank sound file which ends with me saying 'You are dreaming'. I burnt it to CD and I'm going to set my CD player on repeat mode so hopefully it should have the same effect. If it works and I get my first Lucid dream, I'm gonna demand Paperdoll EP throws a muffin party in your honour

bah...

I've gone to sleep with cds on repeat just to see what it would do to my dreams (freaky stuff, but I guess the music's freaky too). If I had a way to record my voice handy I'd give the burned cd thing a shot. Maybe I could borrow a microphone from somebody.

Tell me if it works.........plz

Well I tried it out last night and it sort of worked, I made the same mistake as Birm and put it on too loud. It managed to wake me up 3 times and the only other time I think it might have made me lucid I'm not sure. I remember hearing the sound and being surrounded by this black void. I was thining 'if this is a dream then I can do anything' and getting really excited so I tried flying but it didn't feel like i was moving, all there was was this black void, it didn't last for long and i was soon in another dream and not lucid so I'm not really sure if the sound just woke me up again and I have a fuzzy memory or what. Anyway, I've hooked the CD into my personal CD player with some mini speakers as it can go a lot quieter so I'll be trying this again tonite although I've got an early start in the morning and usually don't dream much when I have to be up early. I'll be keeping it going for a whole week so I'll let people know if it works

those run-ons are making me dizzy!

I've never been keen on periods, they look too damned sneaky They're up to something, mark my words!

hmm. well. use commas.

x-l-ent idear birm, i am going to give this a try!

I had this idea while reading La Berge's book:

The idea occurred to me that the most direct approach would be to use as a cue a sentence stating what the dreamer wishes to become aware of: \"This is a dream.\" I first tried this out in 1978 at the Stanford Sleep Laboratory, in collaboration with Dr. Lynn Nagel. Lynn got the short end of the deal, staying up all night monitoring my brain waves and REMs while I slept. When he observed me in REM sleep, he turned on a tape recording I had made earlier, playing it at a moderate level from a speaker next to my bed. The recorded message said, in my own voice, \"Stephen, you're dreaming\" and after a few seconds added the suggestion that I continue to sleep but realize that I was dreaming. At the time, I had not been sleeping too well, still being a newcomer to the sleep lab, and it seemed to me that I was lying in bed awake. Then from the next room, I heard the voice of a doctor commenting in Germanic accents, \"Amazing! Ze subject has had no REM sleep all night!\" Hearing this, I was not surprised. As far as I knew, I had had no sleep of any kind. But the next moment, I was astonished to hear my own voice coming over the PA. system, announcing, \"You're dreaming!\" I became lucid immediately. It had worked! I was very excited. In a dream world suddenly beautiful and more vivid than waking life, I was awake in my sleep! But a few seconds later, the recording continued with a voice now loud enough to wake the dead, to say nothing of the sleeping, \"Continue to sleep\"—and I awoke!
This first experiment showed us that lucid dreams could indeed be induced by direct verbal suggestion during REM sleep. The fact that in the dream I heard \"You're dreaming\" loud and clear, but did not hear my name at all, is interesting. Perhaps unconsciously hearing my name stimulated my attention, allowing me to hear the rest of the message consciously.
We used my own voice to record the message for two reasons. First, we hoped that being reminded by one's own voice would seem more like reminding oneself mentally, and second, because an earlier study found that when subjects heard tape recordings of their own voices during REM, the result was dreams in which the subjects were more active, assertive, and independent than when they heard recordings of other peoples' voices. Since these qualities are associated with lucid dreaming, we hoped that hearing my own voice would reinforce these qualities and facilitate the realization I was dreaming.
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You know how NovaDreamer works. It is the same principle. NovaDreamer flashes lights so you may see the effect in your dreams. And realize you are dreaming...

La Berge continues:

The results of this study also gave us a sense of the complexity and the multiplicity of variables involved. First there is the question of when is the best time to apply the stimulus, since not every moment of REM sleep seems equally suited to lucid dreaming. As for the message itself, what is its optimal form? First person—\"I'm dreaming\"? Second person—\"You're dreaming\"? Or objective—\"This is a dream\"? Our research at Stanford is aimed at finding our way out of this tangle of questions, to gain a reliable means of inducing lucid dreams in people who have had no prior experience with the phenomenon.
Another significant question is whether or not a verbal cue is best. In principle, any stimulus in any sensory mode could be used as a cue to remind a dreamer that he or she is dreaming. Perhaps a melody (say, Bach's Sleepers Awake!) might be more effective than speech. Or—since smell is the only sense that does not pass through the relay station in the brain called the thalamus, and thus may not be as inhibited as the other senses during sleep—it may be that scent would function as an especially effective cue.
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As i read through i came up with the idea to test this while i am wide awake.

I added a scheduled task that plays the voice file 2 hours later. And i started to watch a movie on TV. The movie was exciting. The movie was the dream and the wav file would remember me that i was just watching the movie.

I was fully concentrated on the movie and the sound file played. I jumped while lying on my bed. I thought "Whats happening? Who is talking? I am alone at home!" Then I remembered about the scheduled task as i realized the voice saying 'This is a dream.'

So i came to a conclusion. You have to be prepared about it first, otherwise it will wake you up. If i could remember about the scheduled task i wouldnt be scared and looked for someone in the room. As i concentrated on the movie i forgot about my life, my personality, my work and even my scheduled task. Just like in a dream!

So what do we have to do? We have to be prepared! Before going to bed i motivate myself to remember my mission. To realize that i am dreaming when i hear the triggering sound!
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Birm, that is a great experiment, thanks for sharing. LEt me suggest an improvement. The command you are dreaming may wake people up, so how about working a melody or some waves or a pleasant sound into the command. You then listen to it a ton of times while awake until your mind associates the sound with the command (classic mental conditioning). Then play just the sound at night so it is not disruptive as you sleep!

that's a good idea....It's hard with sounds because I have a noise machine( it creates white noise and other sounds like rain) but once I'm asleep I dont hear it. Or at least I dont think I hear it.

Birm, that is a great experiment, thanks for sharing. LEt me suggest an improvement. The command you are dreaming may wake people up, so how about working a melody or some waves or a pleasant sound into the command. You then listen to it a ton of times while awake until your mind associates the sound with the command (classic mental conditioning). Then play just the sound at night so it is not disruptive as you sleep![/b]

Thanks for the idea Dream-Master. I tried with music last night. I set up a classic from Bach. It played 7 times until i wake up. I never heard it playing. I didnt become lucid at all. But the dreams i remember were very vivid!

I think speaking takes your attention better.

The question is: What is the best sound, music or phrase to remind you that you are dreaming?

I am working on it.
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how about: "you are dreaming"

If you do reality checks during the day, you can also just say"Do a reality check " on the recorder

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Or perhaps: "Am I Dreaming?"