Meeting God in dreams

**pichulick** · 09-09-2011 07:15 PM

has anyone ever met god? or at least was in heaven? I wanna her some good stories...

**b12** · 09-09-2011 08:41 PM

I believe that in a dream, if you meet God then what you really are meeting is your subconscious interpretation of God.

By definition of a monotheistic 3-O God, being a part of the unseen is a quality of his that remains until you die. Just as you can not perceive ultraviolet light because your human brain can not interpret their wavelengths, you can not perceive God because your brain can not understand the level upon which he works, or what he is made and comprised of, or how large he is compared to the universe. Dreams are activated by chemicals in your brain, and while your soul/spirit can understand these dreams, perceive them and even change them, they are limited to your own understanding of this world and the laws that govern it.

I read on Erowid an experience of this man who took a whole lot of Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), which is released in small quantities in the Pineal Gland of your brain causing you to have erratic experiences called Dreams. In his dream, he was carried by what he perceived as angels beyond the universe, who took him directly to God. He saw God as a bubbling, colorful explosion of energy that radiated light. While this may be some form of what God could possibly be, this is still limited to our, and in this man's case his, understanding of energy, light, and the concept of God. If you believe in a monotheistic God, then you quite possibly understand some of the magnitude of what he really is. In reality, he would be far greater than any magnitude you could possibly perceive.

Thought experiment: can you imagine the end of the universe? Probably, but then that's not really the universe, since as you know the universe is INFINITE and it is expanding at an incredibly fast rate! Our puny brains can not understand the magnitude of this, so it's hard to imagine something even greater than the universe - that is God. Sure, you get the concept, and think about the magnitude of a being so great, but really what you are understanding is the magnitude of the magnitude of what God could be.

Trippy right?!

If you dream of God, then maybe you can gain a greater understanding of what He could possibly be and even gain intuition and insight upon the ways he works. But really, to actually see God...you're going to have to wait to die.

Until then my friend, keep dreaming!

**apsinvo** · 09-09-2011 11:53 PM

I have not personally, however if you read some of the religious texts from various religions and traditions over the ages, it seems highly likely that various experiences and visions occurred within dreaming. "Truth" or just imagination is another question though. I personally 'believe' that dreaming is a gateway, although it's just a belief with very little personal proof

**pichulick** · 09-10-2011 12:56 AM

b12 I believe that we can meet the real God in dreams, but what I will see is my ideea of how he'll look like. I mean I would see Him as a cloud of light in cosmos, others might see Him as an old guy, others as Morgan Freeman, but the real entity is God Himself. I think it's a form a telepathy, just like shared dreaming.. after all "we are one"...

Sooooo did anyone had a dream about meeting god??? please I would apreciate some good dreams...

**fOrceez** · 09-10-2011 01:42 AM

Unless you mean God as in a Dream Character made of your expectations of what God should be like, then this thread belongs in Beyond Dreaming

**Puffin** · 09-10-2011 02:01 AM

Moved to Beyond Dreaming.

Depending on your view of God and what expectations you have when you meet him, the results will be different.

**pichulick** · 09-10-2011 03:59 AM

SORRY for wrong placing...

**Puffin** · 09-10-2011 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by pichulick

SORRY for wrong placing...

No worries.

Threads can be easily moved.

**kenietz** · 09-10-2011 05:32 AM

yeep, i have met god.it was a presence of sort which i couldnt grasp.it was enormous even from a long distance. it was strange dream.i think i wrote about that in some of my posts but do not remember which

**Ilumirath** · 09-10-2011 05:53 AM

Yes years ago I was in Heaven but it was totaly not like I expected it (yeah I know it was just a dream). God had this red ugly brickstone castle, and there were pits before the castle. I asked God why these people are stuck in those pits when they should enjoy Heaven. He told me he didn't liked them... And thus they shall forever do the work no Angel or Demon is willing to do. He was guiding me around and he was more like Satan then God. Heck, He even controlled Satan and Hell. There was a long dark redish atmospheric stair way down that he told me was the entering of Hell thru Heaven. And said "Only if I like you, you will live a decent life here". So I asked "Do you like me?" and He said "Yes, you are an ok kid"
I even encountered Jesus in one of the castle bunker like dark tunnels, He didn't seem to enjoy whatever He was doing. He also made a quick stop as He passed me and said "Make sure you never annoy God, no one likes Him and no one likes this place but it's still better then Hell..."

This dream was total shit...

Another one was where I was hanging on this rope above a cliff that represented the cliff "between mankind and God" Beneath it was Hell... As I was climbing trying to get to Heaven, with every bit I got foreward I felt weaker and weaker and it got harder and harder to hold on to the rope. Till the point I had to give everything I had in me just to stay on the rope. So I asked God "Help me God I can't do this alone" Jesus then answered "We can't do everything for you my son"

At this point I just let go and fell a long way down. Untill I had hitted some ground, I got up and looked around to see fire, smoke, people getting ripped appart by demons, people getting enslaved by demons, getting pushed into fires, forced to kill eachother for the sheer amusement of demons. Some people even became a demon as soon as they entered Hell because they were "pure Evil".

Then Satan walked rigt up to me with two demons by his side and said "Finaly" and then said something to the demons in some language I coudn't make out. They grabbed me violently and dragged me to some church in ruins, demons all over the place. And Satan showed me friends and family. And thanked me. He told me because I gave up, all people that I cared for were doomed just like me. He put them in ovens and said "See what you did? This is all your fault" And then he bursted laughing and so did the two demons. When they got out of the ovens some walked up to me and cursed at me of my selfish behavior. Some just went wandering hopeless, wrecked and depressed untill they were noticed by demons...

**RyanW** · 09-10-2011 06:19 AM

i didnt meet god but i meet the devil

**quassom** · 09-12-2011 02:51 AM

I have met "my interpretation of God" in two dreams. I believe in the Christian protestant God. I was in heaven and everything was covered in clouds. A man I assumed to be jesus handed me a purple card, I then looked to my left to see a man being thrown into a fiery pit I assumed to be hell. This was years ago so sorry for lack of detail.

**shadowofwind** · 09-12-2011 04:48 AM

It seems that that for some of my deeper dreams, the content is foreign to my experience and usual way of thinking, so that I don't know how to make sounds and pictures out of it, or to think about it very clearly. I think that if I were to dream of God, I wouldn't remember anything. Maybe I'm dreaming of God right now.

I had a dream a couple of days ago about a young Mexican-looking man with long hair on a bicycle. I was supposed to prepare the road ahead of him, so that he could get where he was going. I posted this dream on another site, and someone pointed out that it was essentially an image of Jesus on a donkey. I agree, but I never would have thought about it that way. I think that part of the trouble with dreaming about God, is we're surrounded by 6 billion other dreamers, a large portion of whom have thoughts about God, and all of whom (as far as I know) are quite confused on the subject. So it seems that mostly what we dream of is our delusions about God, and other people's delusions. Of course there's some degree of truth plowed into all of it. But life in general seems to me to be like that. Everything like a big metaphor for reality, with the information we need right in front of us. But our fundamental confusion is built into the metaphor, as a central part of our reality. So its difficult for us to make much sense of it.

I had a dream where I a duck, going through some migratory cycle. There were other ducks who had been born when I was born, and who were on the same phase of the cycle, but by some time warp they were a multiple seasons out of sync. So even though we were kin, and they were right next to me, there was a gulf or distance that couldn't be bridged. I asked 'why?', and a voice told me 'to teach you not to hate'. I'm not saying the voice was God, I'm just relating a dream that was in that direction.

**kenietz** · 09-12-2011 06:44 AM

hi again,my dream where ive met god started like this:
I was fighting many daemons at my weekend house in the mountains. I managed to kill many of them but finally i was first killed with a sword by a daemon. then i flew above the mountains and all the way i was 'seeing' god in the distance. I was seeing it but there was no shape just the presence and assurance it was somewhere there.so i was getting closer and the closer i got the more difficult to make something out of it. so i arrived there at some mountain peak where god was but there was death as well. death was the same as god, presence/power without shape and impossible to grasp.and they were having fun on my account

anyways i was there and they were chatting and laughing.finally they gave me a small necklace with a small cross on it and they let me go down the mountain slope. They also spoke to me but unfortunately i do not remember that part.

So, the part with the cross for me means that everyone has to carry their own cross. Not that i am a religious person, its more like we have to follow our own path. But god and death were just some powers without shape. We can have a brief glimpse of what they are but can not comprehend them fully. May be they are just both sides of a coin. Something like Castaneda's Eagle. They know something is out there but they do not know exactly what it is because is impossible to get it, its too enormous to comprehend. But the knowledge of its existence is enough.

**pichulick** · 09-12-2011 12:37 PM

interesting... all dreams.. "Off topic for moderators : why didn't I got e-mails for these replies?"

**Baron Samedi** · 09-14-2011 01:39 AM

Yaweh, Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, Zeus, Chronos, Aphrodite, Cupid, Morpheus, Michael, Pan, Kanaloa, Kamapua'a, Pueo, and The Devil are all "known" gods I have dreamt of. They are all weird, and all cool as fuck.

**labyrint** · 09-14-2011 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by pichulick

interesting... all dreams.. "Off topic for moderators : why didn't I got e-mails for these replies?"

'cause gods of interwebs didn't allow you. Someone might offer you perfectly rationalistic agnostic answer, but maybe the gods of interwebs blinked an eye to you. Talk to Legba, Jane, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Hermes, Iris, Ceiling Cat, mr Norris and Grandmother Spider if you want to complain

;.-)

**labyrint** · 09-14-2011 04:30 AM

I'm not claiming that there's the God, but if [beyond genders]e exists it could help to seperate the God from gods. If the [won't say the name of consept, 'cause it might mislead] [beyond genders]e is off course part of all gods and in deep mystical connection with them. Just nitpicking 'cause I use big capitals for the [enter aum-letter here] and small letters for other ones.

So have anyone met the God in dreams and is it even important to study the difference?

**Naiya** · 09-14-2011 07:20 AM

I met God in a few dreams...

In the first, I was 12. God was holding me and walking down a great hallway full of vipers. He set me down in front of a door, saying that I had to choose to walk through it myself. I was about to touch the handle when I spotted a poisonous spider sitting there. It scurried away, and as I moved to kill it, God told me to not kill something that was no longer able to harm me. I opened the door and went through.

In another one I was around 15, God told me He was giving me something like 10 tests. The first one was easy and had to do with bringing some animal back to its home. The second I never learned about and that was the last I've heard of it. lol.

I'm now agnostic. BTW.

**labyrint** · 09-14-2011 07:52 AM

This might go towars philosophieic section and not beyond dreaming (lolz) but why are you referring this phenomion with gender tied pronoun? I'm just asking, not intending to offend, but I feel that if we are to refer to this big mystery that is unspeakable (maybe most adressable with mysteries, personal spiritual experiences and, yes, dreams) we shouldn't use defining terms. Maybe you have some belief system that ties with judeochristislamity (not to say that truth can't be acquired from them) or maybe you're just used to using word 'he'. I like to use 'she' instead of 'he'. Because pronoun 'he' is overused these days. I bring this up (into surface) just 'cause, if we talk about 'the God' or anyones relationship with it (like, is it separate from us or do we find a gate towards =£# within ourselfs) we are in a territory where defining words deceive us. If we want to talk this as a bridge between belief systems and religions we should be carefull with words. This thing called 'the God' could suit better in beyond dreaming than in it's right section in this forum because some darn crusader atheists with the power of reason and name of Athe hamper the conversation. I also apologise if I have offended your faith by suggesting that he doesn't refer to 'the God'. Just in case it happened 'cause I don't know you.

just my 5 cents

**Darkmatters** · 09-14-2011 08:04 AM

If you consider God an unknowable then maybe you shouldn't use a gender-based pronoun at all - male or female. Unfortunately in English that would be It, which carries a dehumanizing/negative connotation, at least when applied to people - the reason it can be so difficult to talk about people on the board who haven't revealed their gender (Mayflow, I'm lookin' at YOU!

) - though I suppose God wouldn't get angry over being called It. It just seems somehow disingenuous to apply feminism to concepts of God - seems to drag the whole idea down to less than grandiose levels (though I do get the point - it demonstrates that Judeo-Christianity and other religions have always done exactly that).

**Naiya** · 09-14-2011 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

If you consider God an unknowable then maybe you shouldn't use a gender-based pronoun at all - male or female. Unfortunately in English that would be It, which carries a dehumanizing/negative connotation, at least when applied to people - the reason it can be so difficult to talk about people on the board who haven't revealed their gender (Mayflow, I'm lookin' at YOU!

) - though I suppose God wouldn't get angry over being called It. It just seems somehow disingenuous to apply feminism to concepts of God - seems to drag the whole idea down to less than grandiose levels (though I do get the point - it demonstrates that Judeo-Christianity and other religions have always done exactly that).

Right now, I consider God (if there is one) genderless. But in my dreams, God had a male voice and a male form. Hence the male gender in my description. Also, I was raised Christian at the time, and even though I considered God genderless at that time, it was very hard to get away from the habit of calling God a He.

**Darkmatters** · 09-14-2011 08:22 AM

My response was really directed at labyrint who, if I understand correctly, says he prefers to address God in the feminine while at the same time saying "we are in a territory where defining words deceive us. If we want to talk this as a bridge between belief systems and religions we should be carefull with words."

**labyrint** · 09-14-2011 08:31 AM

I'm just picking my nose on on this. Because I thought that this could be great forum (not referring to whole forum but this beyond section) for this. To me this is talking about great mystery of all and beautifull thing about this is that it can't be tied with words. This's personal mystical experience and even thou it takes personified forms it's great mystery. Great thing is border between us and it (thank u darkmatters for bringing out that it wouldn't be offended, who wants to think reality as offended type anyway) where it lies, how can we study it. Only non-gnostic christians, non-cabbalistic jews and non-sufic muslims and offended by notion that we are in fact the God. Atleast as far as we know the mystery. OK, couple of other religions are also offended. But let me say: funk them. Also small letter gods are important, they are real as in matter of dreams, archetypes and magic. They have subjectivly revealed aspects of their personalities and it's easier on personal level to get to know them. But the big mystery remains

NAMASTE (:means I salute the God in U)

**Naiya** · 09-14-2011 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

My response was really directed at labyrint who, if I understand correctly, says he prefers to address God in the feminine while at the same time saying "we are in a territory where defining words deceive us. If we want to talk this as a bridge between belief systems and religions we should be carefull with words."

Ahh, okay, my bad.

When I still sorta kinda belonged to a church, we addressed God as Mother-Father, Father-Mother. I appreciated the thought but it was kind of wordy, lol. I still think that even though my personal beliefs were that God was genderless, the overlying cultural beliefs were what shaped my unconscious idea of what God is, and maybe that's why God appeared to me as male.