Thread: Energy in dreams

I could quote Yoda, but I wont.

For me, the biggie is light, for a night shift worker that's pretty odd I guess. Energy is all around us in many forms here in the Waking, but as I said light is the one I feel most connected to. As such, things with interesting optical properties always catch my eye, mostly in the form of crystals. I have not done it in a long time, perhaps I am due. But I used to form a circle with several of my crystals and meditate within the circle in a place the sunlight touched, dreams that night would be particularly vivid. Alcohol will most certainly suck energy from you, its a depressant for a reason, its how I was able to keep myself from dreaming or remembering when things got too crazy for me.

As for in the Dreaming, I have problems with the world changing control most dreamers have when they are lucid. However I can create a ball of light/energy without too much difficulty, its a matter of focus and keeping your breathing steady. Inhale, let the light flow into you, feel that soft touch it leaves on your skin at dusk or dawn. (for some reason that works better than the blistering noon sun at the beach for me). Exhale, let the energy flow to the point you are focusing on, it does not require your hands, but if it helps to focus on that point use them. Let your breath become the light and your focus be the guide.

I would like to know how to gain more energy too. To wake up feeling more refreshed and energetic.

Main ways of doing this I know already are to let sunlight in in the morning by leaving your blinds half open. And to keep window slightly open to let fresh air in.

Magnesium and Melatonin also provide a more restful sleep.

Looking forward to seeing more replies.

Strangely enough, I slept very little today. Just a few hours. Did a drug-binge on disociates ( don't worry i don't take particularly much ) and went to sleep on a psychedelic. I woke up with a suprising amount of energy from just a few hours of sleep. Even though yesterday night was feeling rather drained at some point. Morale of the story, sometimes you can exsert a load of energy even without the use of sleep. Might as well mention that a lot of times a lot of sleep results in feeling drained. I even found an increase of 'black eyes/tired eyes' after periods of loads of sleeping. The energy-draining factor at night was trying to learn Chemistry from taking online University courses. After about 1.5 hours I was almost completely fatigued. I was feeling very motivated but fatigue just sucked out most of the motivation and self-doubt sort of kicked in. Eating fats (too much, tbh) even though I wasn't particualrly hungry seemed to induce sleepiness just the same. In fact, it was a meal that finally knocked me out. But after a few hours just woke up feeling completely refreshed. Almost. I feel that my body is tired but my spirit is kind of energetic. Loads of mental stimulation, the mind is going rather strong.

Doesn't sunlight somehow increase melatonin production at night? Breathing fresh air is always nice. Now if only I could remember my dreams.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I want to discuss energy in dreams.

I am especially interested in harnessing energy and in what way to use it.

Harnessing energy in waking life to produce lucid dreams.

All this sort of stuff.

What drains. What gives? Foods? What is your experience with energy in dreams?

Emotions = elertro (energetic) magnetic motion, emotions = direction/intention of change = ability to morph time and space to your desire.

Originally Posted by blizzardesigns

Emotions = elertro (energetic) magnetic motion, emotions = direction/intention of change = ability to morph time and space to your desire.

Thanks for this. That isn't all there is to it though. Loads of forms of energy. All interrelated and able to morph into one another. An example: Glucose is a form of chemical energy. When it comes into contact with Oxygen it releases energy in the form of heat.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I want to discuss energy in dreams. I am especially interested in harnessing energy and in what way to use it.
Harnessing energy in waking life to produce lucid dreams. All this sort of stuff.

What drains. What gives? Foods? What is your experience with energy in dreams?

You seem to be asking two different questions here, Dthoughts.

The first is about energy in dreams themselves. Given that dreams are products of the unconscious and imagination, I would say that there is no unique energy that drives them or defines them; what's going on in the brain, energy-wise, pretty much lines up with what's going on in the brain during any other conscious event. And when lucidity is thrown into the mix, I would say that the energy used and produced runs in parallel to waking-life consciousness. So, nothing special.

But then you seem to be asking about what "energizes," or fuels, lucid dreaming. That seems a tougher question, though not without the same parallels to waking-life self-awareness: perhaps the things that make us self-aware are the same things that power LD's. What are these things? I don't know. We all know the actions that bring about self-awareness and lucidity, but I for one could not specifically say what fuels those actions. I do like to think that our minds are complex enough that one single element wold not be enough to energize/prevent the energizing of our dreams. Someone more knowledgeable in these things might chime in about, say, serotonin and acetylcholine, and the assorted chemicals (i.e., gallantamine) that inhibit or excite these substances, but is that really the energy about which you are asking?

I think these are interesting questions, but for lucidity they might need to be asked more in the context of waking-life self-awareness than in dream awareness, because they are both the same thing, and more might be known about the "energies' needed to prompt waking-life self-awareness. And yes, if you can harness that energy, you will likely improve the quality of your LD's.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Thanks for this. That isn't all there is to it though. Loads of forms of energy. All interrelated and able to morph into one another. An example: Glucose is a form of chemical energy. When it comes into contact with Oxygen it releases energy in the form of heat.

I don't know how it all really works, but from what I've come to understand, in a simpler sense, energy can be thought of as one thing. Light, as it's diffracted through the void (water) it refracts into different portions of the spectrum of light (every color) Every color = every vibration = every element = every sound/pitch. If you can imagine a pool of water with a light piercing it's depths, when the water vibrates it refracts the light in the shape/mass/sound/vibe of the frequency of the water. So really just like in that comedian quote :

Today some of us realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration — that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather." - BH, 1989.

If you can understand that light is basically matter without the distortion of slower vibrations (time), It's eternal speed grants it timeless distance (no distance between two points). While all matter is simply the result of emotional distortion slowing down the light just enough to capture it's equivalent form. If you understand the concept that every color combined = white, you can understand how every color is the division of white, and therefore every metal is a color derivative of white, just in the same way every metal on the periodic table has a color when it burns, and a certain frequency of mass (vibration). If you went the speed of light, you'd see how everything freezes to it's true speed, meanwhile you see it all through an eternal perspective, all at once, without the division of the past present and future. It's all now.

So if you take the concepts of: Sound, Frequency, Mass (gravity), Color, and matter and consider them as derivatives of the whole color (white) you can see how everything is literally electricity (energy/light) passing through varying frequencies of water, and in turn slowing down to materialize into various portions of the spectrum of color, light, and sound. So energy is light, and your emotions are the gravity that slows down light enough to materialize it. If you can relate that all to how a holographic sticker works, you can understand how everything is a huge holographic distortion rooting from your emotional, gravitational spin.
As in the quote, It sort of makes sense considering something Alan Watts said, that life is the result of your deep fear of death, it's a holographic construction created by our ego's. If you understand how fear is a slow vibration you can relate it to the fact that when you're bored time goes by slow, and so when you're scared life goes by slow. Considering that you can see how life is literally the distorted light of the infinite condensed to your personal frequency. So when you lose the fear of death, and live through "love" your entire life goes by faster and faster, that's why when you're having fun you always experience time go by much faster compared to being bored. That concept pretty much just means: Life = Fear, and Death = Love. Light = love, darkness = fear. These two emotions are the two root opposites of your thoughts and emotions. The Yin/Yang of your existence. Your imagination of yourself is so accurate in fact that your brain has two hemispheres dedicated to processing these two opposite emotions, and two beings: female/male.

When you dream you lose the centralized attention of the illumination of light and you experience the infinite through the filter of your emotions. You're simply a ripple in the water morphing the direction of energy (light).
So really, when you dream, you're experiencing the entire spectrum of existence to the extent that your emotions don't resist light, and the less resistance the more speed, and the more light. That's why it's all based around perspective, which is pretty much a division of the whole idea, just like any color is a division of white. In that sense lucid dreaming is what we do every day, and when you "wake" up you're really just falling asleep. Hence the law of attraction being a thing. That's also why love is considered to equate to understanding, like the acceptance of the whole instead of emphasizing a division and ignoring the rest (fear).
Love = Objective perspective, fear = subjective perspective, dreams = death, waking dreams = life.
Two opposite spirals of gravity, two opposite emotions, two different choices, two perspectives.
The thing is both opposites imply each other, and without each other neither could exist because both depend on each other for a point of reference.

If you watch the new movie "Interstellar" you will understand how you interact with yourself gravitationally (emotionally) regardless of any frequency or time. Your mind is a black hole, and within it is everything and beyond of what is external of it. Your mind = infinity, there's a universe within your personal black hole just like there is outside. Just like in the movie, you interact with god (everyone) and yourself by choosing to choose in every possible scenario. If you see the movie you'll see what i'm getting at. Your ego = conscious mind, and subconscious (infinite black hole) = unconscious, you're just separating into an ego by separating from your full consciousness. "When you go to sleep you wake up almost instantly, which makes it almost seem like you woke up without ever having went to sleep, or going to sleep without ever having woken up". - Allan Watts
Every imaginative thought you accept (not resist) is a choice either from fear or love which defines a state of experience in the future. Your subconscious mind simply processes your conscious emotions into concepts and experiences that fit the preconceived nostalgia of that emotion.

Finally, think about how when you die, it's theorized that your "whole" life flashes before you in 7 seconds. This has been directly attributed to DMT. This happens because your entire life is that 7 seconds, you're just experiencing it linearly like this because when you die/died in the future you were so scared that you slowed down the entire experience into one moment right before death due to the overwhelming fear of losing everything you have, and in result you're experiencing that fear through the linear progression of time in the form of this current experience. This is why love = letting go, and fear = not letting go. This is also why you never remember dreams like you experience them, because dreams aren't linear, they're timeless and eternal, which the confused ego attempts to reconstruct through a filter of time. In another sense your entire existence is dependent upon your judgement of yourself, and your division from the whole, the source. Opinion = separation= life, Your electromagnetic motions form your future, the problem with this is that you can only know what you are doing with your life if you are in the present moment, I bet most of your deepest emotions are memories, nostalgia, moments only truly felt after experiencing them. If you consider that, you can see how your emotions are literally precognitions from the future resulting from the nostalgia of the present moment. When you die you simply rejoice with your origin, and dissolve into infinity. Forever isn't that long.

I don't have an adequate reply at this point.

I would att that. In terms of the brain. Things like a disociate (shuts off important channels connecting the spine with the head) It is said that a lot of emotions are in the body chakras. In particular some disociates work to shut off one from emotions. At least a portion of it. This seems to induce sleep paralysis and wild more often. atleast in me. the sleep paralysis can sometimes be used to catapult a wild.

Blizzardesigns, Great post really. I agree with a ton of points. Can you name ways that we can absorb energies in dreams? Or WL.

I bet most of your deepest emotions are memories, nostalgia, moments only truly felt after experiencing them. If you consider that, you can see how your emotions are literally precognitions from the future resulting from the nostalgia of the present moment.

I can see your point. Not a bad point. In addition, the emotion during a past moment used to be a driving force for energy expenditure.

If you watch the new movie "Interstellar" you will understand how you interact with yourself gravitationally (emotionally) regardless of any frequency or time. Your mind is a black hole, and within it is everything and beyond of what is external of it. Your mind = infinity, there's a universe within your personal black hole just like there is outside. Just like in the movie, you interact with god (everyone) and yourself by choosing to choose in every possible scenario. If you see the movie you'll see what i'm getting at. Your ego = conscious mind, and subconscious (infinite black hole) = unconscious, you're just separating into an ego by separating from your full consciousness. "When you go to sleep you wake up almost instantly, which makes it almost seem like you woke up without ever having went to sleep, or going to sleep without ever having woken up". - Allan Watts

Haven't seen Interstellar. Love Alan watts, though.

Id say that Waking consciousness is different from Dreaming consciousness. for sure. But apparently we change consciousness all day. At least, wise men do. I've been doing a lot of Carlos Castaneda lately. And maybe I have figured out that we in our 'energy construction' change consciousness a ton. In the Castaneda's it is explained that dreaming is the result of having the energy construction leaning slightly to the left. This in essence may be a different consciousness than we are used to in waking life. So a pragmatic approach would be to surface this consciousness in waking life and train it.

Or as Sageous is currently suggesting (in my point of view) bringing the Waking life Assemblage Point into the dreaming mind. Both are equally awesome.

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

Blizzardesigns, Great post really. I agree with a ton of points. Can you name ways that we can absorb energies in dreams? Or WL.



I can see your point. Not a bad point. In addition, the emotion during a past moment used to be a driving force for energy expenditure.



Haven't seen Interstellar. Love Alan watts, though.

Id say that Waking consciousness is different from Dreaming consciousness. for sure. But apparently we change consciousness all day. At least, wise men do. I've been doing a lot of Carlos Castaneda lately. And maybe I have figured out that we in our 'energy construction' change consciousness a ton. In the Castaneda's it is explained that dreaming is the result of having the energy construction leaning slightly to the left. This in essence may be a different consciousness than we are used to in waking life. So a pragmatic approach would be to surface this consciousness in waking life and train it.

Or as Sageous is currently suggesting (in my point of view) bringing the Waking life Assemblage Point into the dreaming mind. Both are equally awesome.

Thanks, I think we are drained of energy by emotionally expressing ourselves, but at the same time we can collect energy by not expressing our emotions. The only way I could think of would be by entities literally draining us of "Life-Force" energy by putting us in a state of fear. I'm also pretty sure that every time you go to sleep your reptilian mind processes everything you learned and causes you to forget things in a strange way. I've heard that sleeping actually causes human consciousness to get stuck in a cyclical life death pattern because of the nature of dreams (reprogramming). There's a group of people (which I forgot the name of) who don't sleep, and they're apparently extremely healthy, have no desire/attention towards time, numbers, and anything cyclical/electronic. Apparently they instead communicate telepathically and emotionally like animals and have no language. They do this because, apparently sleep reprograms you every night, and causes you to "die" instead of wake up (ascend). That's what I think Carlos was talking about, in essence to "wake up" the unconscious while awake, and not have to die anymore. I think it's to do with ego/subconscious lucidity. I've always thought that maybe waking life is just a really vivid collective lucid dream in this 3rd dimension, while sleeping dreams are lucid dreams in the 2cd dimension. I'm not really sure at all to be honest. This topic reminds me of this picture though:

Talk about foot fetish! Yikes

On the topic of energy.. Ye.. I've been told that emotional mental constructs are in essence a lower place of energy higher places do exsist. Where there is much more energy. But quite frankly, I am interested in emotional aspect of it just as well. I figured that while dreaming I must next time meditate and see where it takes me. And doing Qi Gong exercise and/or Pranayama Breathing in lotus.

That should be a good start. To be honest, my goal is to stay in the lucid dream state for a long long time. I've pulled off 1.5 hours that was insane but how I did it is hard to share. In Castaneda it is spoken of the 1st attention this is waking life. The 2nd attention is the dream and there is a higher attention to attain and that is what they are all about. There are higher attentions still.

There's a group of people (which I forgot the name of) who don't sleep, and they're apparently extremely healthy, have no desire/attention towards time, numbers, and anything cyclical/electronic. Apparently they instead communicate telepathically and emotionally like animals and have no language. They do this because, apparently sleep reprograms you every night, and causes you to "die" instead of wake up (ascend). That's what I think Carlos was talking about, in essence to "wake up" the unconscious while awake, and not have to die anymore.

Yup. Like Tibetan Dream Yoga the goal is to attain Lucidity and defeat death. In essence one of my goals is to lucid dream for more than a few hours. But to do this I want to find ways to keep myself in the dream. Not to unattach from my physical this is not what I'm about. But I don't want to get a lot into personals.

These 'people' that you speak of must not be human. Afaik the human sleep is necessary to protect the brain. There's a very physical reason for it it has nothing to do with sleep. However, to dodge this (imo) one must either interpret non-sleep as not losing awareness during the bodies sleep and remaining conscious. This is one of the Tibetan claims, full lucidity. The other one seems less likely if they found a way to live so healthy that the brain is never harmed with toxic chemicals (because that is what latest research is suggesting sleep is actually for). I don't know, though. I've read some crazy shit in Robert Monroe apparently there are people of 100s years of age walking the earth. Lol