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      practicing third eye opening for 30 days

      Hi. i am going to open my third eye in 30 days with throat friction which is believed to be one of the most powerful third eye opening.
      I use the mp3 made by Samuel Sagan which i have found it in youtube.
      I have already done the first 3 days and this is my result:

      day 1 = felt pressure and denseness in my forehead and some particle of very small light
      day 2 = felt pressure and saw dark violet hazy light behind my closed eyes at the end of the session.
      day 3 = felt tingling and pressure in my third eye but the visual part was missed. but at the end i saw strong dark violet hazy light which lasted for 10 seconds.

      now i practice this method for 1 month and report my daily results here.

      i should mention that i have practiced other third eye opening method with no success and this method has worked better than the others so i stick to it.
      plus i don't have special talent and i am an ordinary girl who wants to start the path of third eye opening.
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      I think this is like trying to force a flower to open, or a butterfly to come out of a cocoon. If it is time, it will just open, you don't have to do anything. If you manage to force it open before it is ready, you will hurt yourself.
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      thanks for your comment.
      it is over 5 years that i am meditating and still nothing. i don't know when the flower will be open on its own so i am pushing a little force toward it.
      my chakras are nearly active as i have practiced energy works according to Robert Bruce energy books and i think i am ready for one more step.
      by the way, Samuel Sagan never mentioned about prior work to other chakras and he directly goes for the third eye and people who attended his class could open their third eye in less than one year.
      but generally saying you are right and many masters believe that you should go a long journey to be able to open your third eye. but i am not that patient and i am ready to take any risks.

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      Okay, I'll just say this once, and then go away, because I understand that it may be something you do not wish to hear, Yaya:

      The Third Eye is a metaphor, meant to illustrate the opening of our higher awareness to mystical or transcendental things that we are not generally able to witness with our normal levels of awareness. In spite of what the guy on youtube has told you, and what you may have heard elsewhere, there is no organ sitting in your forehead that is a third eye, waiting to be opened. By extension, should you actually gain the wisdom and higher awareness to (metaphorically) open your third eye, the opening will have nothing to do with your forehead or, God help us all, the pineal gland.

      Reaching a spiritual state of being that opens your third eye, metaphorically speaking, is a profound goal, and one I believe you should certainly pursue (though you ought to heed Shadowofwind's advice when he says that doing so is actually a conclusion to a long, carefully tread spiritual path, and not something you can force to happen ahead of its arrival time). I also suggest that you give folks like Robert Bruce and Samuel Sagan a little less credence, because much of what they say is meant to sell books to hopeful magical thinkers, and is not based in reality.

      Now please don't misunderstand me: as Shadowofwind could probably attest, I hold great value in "opening that third eye," in developing your sense of Self and place in reality to a point where you can "see" experience that ranges far beyond our given human perception... but it simply isn't going to happen by forcing open a nonexistent object in your forehead.

      Finally, I am speaking from my knowledge of the history and nature of eastern mysticism (where the third eye concept was invented, from a necessity to explain transcendental experience), and I am not expressing an opinion but a truth, based on actual things... I know that's a big no-no these days, but I felt a need to do so anyway. I hope you'll understand.

      Okay, that's it... again, I understand how my post will be received by you, but I felt a need to say it, and do hope you'll consider my words; after all, they might explain the difficulties you're encountering now and the disappointment you might encounter in 30 days.

      tl;dr: Try to keep in mind that the third eye is a metaphor, and not a real thing, no matter what you've heard, and "opening it" reflects a leap in spiritual awareness and not the physical movement of an eye secreted into your forehead. This leap to that state of being is certainly an incredibly valuable and in my opinion very real thing to make, but you will never make it if your focus is on a nonexistent eye in your head.
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      Yep, Sageous is correct. I believe you can understand it Yaya.

      The third eye is the perspective of wisdom and intuition, something that sees beyond the veils of beliefs, concepts and indoctrination
      It is seeing and being from a more selfless perspective, a new level of mind or consciousness (like being in flow for instance)
      This level of mind allows you to see with your eyes, heart and mind - and it can even seem like you are not watching from your physical eyes ( maybe that's why it is called a third eye, but some people referred to it as the single eye too and i prefer this one)

      It is not a real eye, but is commonly represent on a physical level for some (perhaps deluded) reason

      I am sure you can finds lot of mature spiritual articles corroborating this opinion (besides the deluded and closeminded ones contradicting it)
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      Sorry to derail your thread, but i have to post this Douglas Harding's experiment - a very interesting british architect who created a unique road of self inquiry and discovery

      The experiment on the link is called the single eye. Also, a few words on the Third Eye - if not the whole article !

      http://www.headless.org/experiments/the-single-eye.htm
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      hello dear Sageous, nice to see you again after 2 years. first of all i should say in those days you helped me a lot on LD and i also translated your teaching to my mother tongue for people in my country so i have to thank you for many things i know about LD.

      about third eye, the aspect you told is for sure correct and third eye might be just a new insight rather than a new visual sight.

      but i have a little bit of extra ordinary experiences when i focus on my third eye which is spot light in darkness or seeing hazy light (not very clearly) which never happen unless on i focus on the forehead. people say it is pineal gland that is connected to third eye and it releases DMT that is related to these experiences and blah blah blah.... i want to be a researcher and really want to find out if there is any such thing as third eye. i had no success with bineaural beat or fire breath or prana work and this method (throat friction) has triggered some hope.

      for example today (as day 4 of the experience) i had lots of Hypnogagic images (HI) which we know it happens in altered state of consciousness (trance state,theta and delta brain wave) and not in beta wave. but i could have them in waking state while doing throat friction (they were not as clear as HI in LD but they were new to me in waking state). i should continue to see if they lead me to any other considerable results.


      thanks dear VagalTone but when i click on the link it says: 403 Forbidden
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      day 5:

      I still see the HI while i do the practice but it is very annoying. because when i focus on any spot light behind my eyelids then turn into HI. they have no meaning and they are 100% random images. for example one of them turned into onion skin or a clown. one important thing about them is that some of them are new to me and i have never seen them before in my life. In our dreams we usually see things that our sub-conscious is familiar with. for example you see in a monster in dreams but if you focus of them, they are mixture of some monsters you saw in movies because our sub-concussion is not able to create something from zero. some of my HI are those mixtures but some are new things.

      another thing that happened today is a pain in my tailbone which is very painful. i have heard by focusing on third eye, maybe kundalini starts to raise which one of its symptom is pain at the end of the spine. i don't know if my pain is there because i don't know where is exactly the end of the spine. due to this pain i stopped the session after 10 minutes. this never happened to me before although i practiced kundalini awakening many years ago but never felt any pain in those times.

      i hope i stay alive at the end of the experiment

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      I have some interesting things to share on the topic.

      Know I have no stake in the these types of discussions. I like my spirituality simple and as free of symbols as practical. But that doesn't mean I dismiss these things. And I once had a "supernatural/insanely unlikely" experience that pointed directly to the third eye being of relevance. (I'll share it if anybody wants)

      To the point of my comment! I study molecular biology and have just recently been reading on the evolution of the parietal eye and pineal gland in vertebrates for a presentation. I felt like providing some fun facts and education, because the third eye is actually a very interesting and mysterious topic in biology. Far from understood.

      As you probably know, the third eye is associated with the pineal gland, which plays a major role in our lives. It is of special interest to us dreamers since it, among other things, controls our sleep cycles by secreting melatonin.
      However, what most people don't know, even those who believe in the third eyes hidden powers, is that in a sense the pineal gland is actually an eye!

      The pineal gland used to be a set of eyes that evolved in our ancestors a very, very long time ago. They were some of the earliest vertebrates living on the bottom of the sea. These creatures needed to spot predators above them. For a long time these extra eyes on top of the skull were very common in vertebrates. But with time one of these two eyes moved into the skull. There it merged with a primitive version of the pineal gland creating a new and better pineal complex. The new pineal gland was however still attached to and receiving stimuli from the remaing "parietal" or "third" eye. Very practical! This new and improved pineal complex spread. We still find it in many species. Most lizards have a parietal eye connected to their pineal gland. And many other species as well. The old configuration with two extra eyes and a primitive pineal gland are only found in lampreyes, one of the most primitive vertebrates still around. It attaches it self to fish and sucks their blood. They need their eyes to be able to spot predator fish intending to help their host by eating the lamprette parasite.

      The story obviously doesnt end there. After all we haven't got a third eye on the top of our heads... What happened was the third eye joined the other one to further improve the pineal gland. Allowing the hole in the skull to be closed up. Birds still have photoreceptive pinealglands, and because their skulls are so thin, it actually senses sunlight! Our pineal gland is not photoreceptive anymore, but there are cells in it that are (especially in prenatal development) very similar to the photoreceptive cones found in your eye.

      Now why, when and how did this happen? I can expand if somebody's interested in knowing more about the biological aspects..

      I can't really say much on the spiritual side, because I simply haven't read all that much on it.
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      thank you very much dear LighrkVader. I have also studied biology in university and your information was very interesting to me. please continue...

      I have also heard pineal gland in lizards (Squamata) and Rhynchocephalia has major roll in survival as it can be even be used for detecting the location of predators and regulate their body temperature or in reptiles it acts as a calendar. and as a being is more complex in evolution, this gland has decreased in size and function and some assume it as an vestigial organ in human brain unless for dreaming or death (and also some reaction to daytime).

      in two times of our life we have a major boost in pineal gland activity. once in the moment of birth and one in the moment of death. it is said those holy visions in near death experience is due to this gland. maybe as a mechanism to decrease the pressure and stress of death. secretion of the gland (knows as DMT) is not really spiritual as its form as drug is doing the same as when we normally induce the gland in our body. meditation has an important effect on secretion of DMT from pineal gland and those holy visions during meditation are related to that. So why its intake as a drug is not holy and it only induces hallucination? maybe both of them are hallucinations. that's why every person in their near death experience would see their holy gurus in their own religion and maybe it is hallucination too. because the truth is only one truth and we can't have multiple gods related to every belief.

      so the reality of the spiritual aspect of third eye is really a big question to me and i need more investigations.

      by the way...

      day 6 : i only practiced 10 minutes and rested so the pain would go.

      day 7 : the pain in tailbone was gone. i still saw HI (hypnogagic images) more vivid and faster than before. then i tested if they are random or if they can help me. so i asked some question about my problems and two of the HI were solution to my problems but the others had no meaning. my question were not about super natural and they could be answered by my subconscious. when i become advanced in this practice I would ask complex questions.
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