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      Crazy Shamanic/Dream Experience - What do you think?

      Hey guys, pardon the long post but bare with me....

      about 2 years ago I was out drinking on a regular weekend night - I had about 6 drinks for the night and was basically sober by the time I'd gotten home at around 2am. I'd had a pretty shit night due to social reasons and was feeling emotionally like crap at the end of the night.

      Later in the night i started having a dream where I was in my room and there was some kind of earthquake occurring. All of the walls of my room began caving in on me - I had to find a way out quick. Because everything was falling apart I couldnt find the door, but managed to sight the window in the corner of my room. To escape the collapsing room I jumped/smashed through my window and ran out into the backyard, where the dream sort of spun back into waking life, and I realised I was awake, my window and fly screen was completely smashed, I had glass in my leg and there was blood everywhere! My parents rushed me to the emergency ward and it was ascertained that I had jumped head first off one step through my window and out a 3m drop to cement, and the only wounds I had were on my leg

      I felt completely awake and normal, I didnt feel like I had been slipped anything, even though the doctors thought maybe I had been.

      My mum being interested in spiritual subjects laughed it off, but lately told me that a friend and herself were discussing shamans and their powers, and her friend said (without knowledge of my incident) that she read that all master shamans go through a ritual in which they receive scars on their upper thighs, which was the only place I had a scar and was even cut after jumping head first through a window.

      I still think the entire thing is a bit of a laugh, but I'm getting heavily into lucid dreaming and seeing as shamanic powers and dreams are sort of linked I thought I'd see what you guys think!


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      Well...while that is freakishly interesting, maybe do some reading on modern Shamanism, and you may find that it's not as mystical as you appear to think it is. I think it was coincidence.

      But I am confused about your dream. Were you awake the entire time, or at what point were you awake? There are instances in some people where they physically do the activities they are dreaming about, and often end up severely injured. It could also be that someone slipped you something, as you mentioned.
      If it was just alcohol in your system, you may have dreamed, you would have had a weird dream, but you would have been out cold, and probably not even remembered it anyway. My guess is that you unknowingly took a psychadelic, many of which don't kick in until after quite a long time. That would explain a dream blending with reality to an extent. Overall it's just a weird occurence. You may also consider mild or developing schizophrenia.

      I am not mentioning these things because I am a skeptic. Other members on here will tell you that I'm one of the more new age-knowledge and prone members. Or maybe they won't but I am. This all just doesn't click with me. If you are interested I'll tell you what else this could be, but in private. Somethings people aren't ready to see sometimes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheFinalCut View Post
      Hey guys, pardon the long post but bare with me....

      about 2 years ago I was out drinking on a regular weekend night - I had about 6 drinks for the night and was basically sober by the time I'd gotten home at around 2am. I'd had a pretty shit night due to social reasons and was feeling emotionally like crap at the end of the night.

      Later in the night i started having a dream where I was in my room and there was some kind of earthquake occurring. All of the walls of my room began caving in on me - I had to find a way out quick. Because everything was falling apart I couldnt find the door, but managed to sight the window in the corner of my room. To escape the collapsing room I jumped/smashed through my window and ran out into the backyard, where the dream sort of spun back into waking life, and I realised I was awake, my window and fly screen was completely smashed, I had glass in my leg and there was blood everywhere! My parents rushed me to the emergency ward and it was ascertained that I had jumped head first off one step through my window and out a 3m drop to cement, and the only wounds I had were on my leg

      I felt completely awake and normal, I didnt feel like I had been slipped anything, even though the doctors thought maybe I had been.

      My mum being interested in spiritual subjects laughed it off, but lately told me that a friend and herself were discussing shamans and their powers, and her friend said (without knowledge of my incident) that she read that all master shamans go through a ritual in which they receive scars on their upper thighs, which was the only place I had a scar and was even cut after jumping head first through a window.

      I still think the entire thing is a bit of a laugh, but I'm getting heavily into lucid dreaming and seeing as shamanic powers and dreams are sort of linked I thought I'd see what you guys think!

      Wow that is amazing. You mean to say that the Dream and the Waking life Experience were actually UNSEPERATED and fully connected to eachother without any recollection of waking up in between them?

      Perhaps you were sleepwalking. People can be quite active and seemingly awake while still being completely or partially immersed within a dream. And the drinks you had may have played a roll: alcohol is known to distort sleep this way.
      But I bet the heavily strong emotions were the main cause of this; I always get astonishing visionairy/revealing dreams when falling asleep with intense emotions.

      Shamanism and Dreaming are related for sure. You should read a bit of Carlos Castaneda's "The Art of Dreaming" He speaks of alot of shamanic life-views, realities and specifically the seven gates of dreaming. How Shamans practise "Dreaming" instead of just to dream.
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      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      It did feel a bit like sleepwalking, except for the walls caving in inside my room part. When I went from what I thought was a dream to being awake, the vision i was seeing when outside in my backyard just stopped being hazy, sort of like going from slow motion back to regular motion.

      Like I said I think the entire thing is hilarious but there is a small hint of mystery about it!

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      a small hint? That's Eufemism of the greatest kind
      It was very msyterious the way you were conscious of 2 worlds: the physical material world and the spiritual dreaming world leading to a strange mixture of the 2. I had an experience last night with very much that same mindstate.

      Check out my latest dreamjournal entry at the last link of my sig. I had a semi-wakefull semi-dreaming experience with "Old hag" last night.
      Tell me if you see any similairities in it to your own experience.
      Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
      among other teachers taught me

      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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