Thread: The spirit world

Unless you are an experienced telapathic, no I feel that it is not possible to commune with the dead by way of a dream, lucid or otherwise. It's possible to do it, but I doubt it's possible from a dream. I only know of it being done via OBE, and even that is extremely difficult and not likely to occur. Other than that, there's that guy John Edward, but he doesn't communicate with them directly. If he's for real, he doesn't actually communicate with them, he just sees things, or signs from them.

I guess that's as close as you get. But who am I to say it's not possible. I just think it's highly unlikely.

Originally Posted by Fale55

I would like this topic to view your opinions about the possibility of talking to the dead in a Lucid dream. Is it possible? I think so, but we'll never know. I want your opinions about it this has probably been discussed before but I just decided to make my own topic and read for myself what your opinions are. Please no heated discussion or arguments and also leave bad comments to yourself please.

Thanks,
Fale55

That's impossible, isn't it? i mean how can you tell a dead person from a DC? your memory will know eveything so they can't prove anything without your memory already knowing meaning even DC's will know it all and play along. IMO it's impossible to tell real from dreaming in a LD or just a normal dream.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

That's impossible, isn't it? i mean how can you tell a dead person from a DC? your memory will know eveything so they can't prove anything without your memory already knowing meaning even DC's will know it all and play along. IMO it's impossible to tell real from dreaming in a LD or just a normal dream.

In theory it is possible to prove, if the spirit tells you something that you can't know otherwise.

I have dreams where I talk to my deceased grand-mother, and in one dream I asked her what she was doing here, and she answered: "I came here because I wanted to come here." You be the judge.

It could be my head making all this up, but it makes me feel as if it is possible.

At this point it's not a matter of if it is possible...it's more a matter of in the unlikely event that a person who's not telepathically experienced was able to communicate with the dead from a lucid dream, there would be almost no sure way of knowing that it wasn't a DC.

Rainman i'm not going to argue but let me point something out to you. How do you know you don't have to have all this telepathically experiance to talk to the dead? You don't have the skill so how you would you know anything about it? So let me ask you all to do something tonight when you got to bed and if you go lucid try to talk to a dead family member and just interview them or ask them something and then post in in this topic WITHOUT lying about what you talked about.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

That's impossible, isn't it? i mean how can you tell a dead person from a DC? your memory will know eveything so they can't prove anything without your memory already knowing meaning even DC's will know it all and play along. IMO it's impossible to tell real from dreaming in a LD or just a normal dream.

WHATS A DC

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

That's impossible, isn't it? i mean how can you tell a dead person from a DC? your memory will know eveything so they can't prove anything without your memory already knowing meaning even DC's will know it all and play along. IMO it's impossible to tell real from dreaming in a LD or just a normal dream.

WHATS A DC???????

Saint10, a DC is a Dream Character, a person or animal that apears in a dream.

Look up this thread for a list of acronyms that are used in this forum:
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...showtopic=3243

In any case, it is considered impolite to double-post, and also to make posts all in capitals

I once had a dream I was in this jungle on an island at a hotel or something and my grandfather started talking to me through the radio.

it's definitely possible to talk to deceased the deceased in lucid dreams, but they're your own subconcious' creation. Which could be theraputic to those suffering from loss? maybe?

Originally Posted by jamous

it's definitely possible to talk to deceased the deceased in lucid dreams, but they're your own subconcious' creation. Which could be theraputic to those suffering from loss? maybe?

Exactly. Fale, the dreamstate consists entirely and ONLY what exists in your own mind, and nothing more. Occasionally things happening to your physical body (such as someone shining a bright light in your face or having to go to the restroom) have a very slight effect on what you feel in your dream, but it's all things that are entirely in your head. If you're not psycically attuned or telepathic, there is no other way to intentionally communicate with someone or something else, therefore unless you are psychically inclined, it is scientifically impossible to communicate with the dead via a lucid dream.

Originally Posted by Rainman

Exactly. Fale, the dreamstate consists entirely and ONLY what exists in your own mind, and nothing more. Occasionally things happening to your physical body (such as someone shining a bright light in your face or having to go to the restroom) have a very slight effect on what you feel in your dream, but it's all things that are entirely in your head. If you're not psycically attuned or telepathic, there is no other way to intentionally communicate with someone or something else, therefore unless you are psychically inclined, it is scientifically impossible to communicate with the dead via a lucid dream.

well, I don't know whether it is possible for the average Joe or not. And I don't know if psychics even exist. I'm gonna say AT LEAST you can talk to the dead as a subconscious creation, and probably will only ever do it like that. I've seen no decisive evidence whether "spirits" or whatever exist, so I can't rule it in or out. The only way one can know for sure is if they see personal evidence that there are "spirits" or whatever.

Yep. I agree. In my experience, they do exist outside of subconscious creation, and it's quite possible to communicate with them. However, if you one does not believe it cannot be done, it cannot be done. The same goes if you do believe it.

I don`t think you undersood what i meant. I`m saying how can u prove that it`s impossible to really talk to them without just subconsious thought? there is no way to prove u can`t... so no one knows

No, I undertood what you meant. The concept of a dream is proof by itself. Believe me, I am no skeptic about new age concepts, but you're getting two concepts mixed up. I didn't say it's impossible to communicate with spirits in your dreams, I said it's impossible to do it intentionally unless you are telepathically abled. Spirits can enter your dreams, but even if they did there would be no way to know if they were real or a creation of your mind.

I don't think you understand what I am saying. I also don't think you fully understand what telepathy is, or what the function of the subconscious is. Telepathy isn't a superpower, it's just an extension of your own mind giving you the ability to directly connect on another level with anything capable of thought. It's a characteristic, or a classification of a mind.

Your subconscious is simply the part of your mind that tells you things, helps you realize things, helps determine your mood, why you feel a certain way, basically it's everything you know or may have burried. That's why it's possible to have forgotten something ages ago and remember it by asking your subconscious.

If you are not psychic in some way, it is scientifically impossible to intentionally communicate with another being with nothing more than your mind. If you can communicate with things, then you're psychically prone. It's really that simple, and that's just the way it is. I'm not saying it's not possible to communicate with spirits in dreams, I'm saying if you can, then you're telepathic or psychic, and that is a fact, not my opinion. Me saying that I can't prove it's not possible is like trying to change the definition of "psychic".

It's a classification of ability. People who can do that are psychic. End of story. I just proved it...twice. It's not even about proof really...it's about what is the defined function of the subconscious, and what does it mean to be telepathic or being able to psychically communicate (same thing)?

Originally Posted by Fale55

I would like this topic to view your opinions about the possibility of talking to the dead in a Lucid dream. Is it possible? I think so, but we'll never know. I want your opinions about it this has probably been discussed before but I just decided to make my own topic and read for myself what your opinions are. Please no heated discussion or arguments and also leave bad comments to yourself please.

Thanks,
Fale55

I believe its possible, in the same way that dreamwalking is possible. Its way more practical to communicate with the deceased through the OBE and astral projection, but theres no reason I can think off that suggests it isn't possible to do the same thing in a lucid dream. It would take some telepathic skill, and the likelyhood of it happening would be very slim because in a dream you are in your own personal realm.

Originally Posted by VoyageurNocturne

I have dreams where I talk to my deceased grand-mother, and in one dream I asked her what she was doing here, and she answered: "I came here because I wanted to come here." You be the judge.

It could be my head making all this up, but it makes me feel as if it is possible.

I had a dream about my grandma once and I guess I went to Heaven. And I asked her if I was dead...and she said "No you're not dead I just missed you so much I had to visit you" she gave me a hug and I woke up in tears. I love those dreams though it feels like she's never really gone when I get to see her when I sleep.

I think you can communicate with dead ppl in dreams... personally, I've dreamed once of my grand grand mother. Maybe 1 month after she died. I was dreaming that she was alive back in the house where she was living.
I know that my mother dreams about dead persons and things. 1 day before a friend of mine died in my country ( I mean the place i was liveing before) she dreamed that something bad would happend, (I don't know exactly what she dreamed of) and than maybe few days later the women was dead, she dreamed of her again...but this time the women was alive...
Dreams can be really wierd sometimes.

I hope it's possible to contact with spirits in the astral/lucid. I guess I should try it next time when I get in astral or lucid dream..!

I hope you're not confusing the astral with the dreamstate...they're entirely different. We already know that it's possible on an astral level, but unless you're telepathic, you won't be able to do it from a dream on purpose and be sure that it wasn't in your head.

Originally Posted by dodobird

Saint10, a DC is a Dream Character, a person or animal that apears in a dream.

Look up this thread for a list of acronyms that are used in this forum:
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...showtopic=3243

In any case, it is considered impolite to double-post, and also to make posts all in capitals

thanks

i am not sure that this is possible through lucid dreams ...
but i am really sure that it is possible through OBE,

but its pretty dangerous they say

Of course it's impossible. A dream takes place in your brain. What would a dead person's mind be doing in your brain?

Judging by past experience, the only mind which inhabits our own brains is our own minds.