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      Hi,
      sorry for poor English.

      I started to dream mutual dreaming about one week before.
      All began with a fight between me and unknown person. I woke up many times then I asked him – “Why are you doing this” and to my surprise it was she and she answered – “because I’m angry”. After that we were talking together and I have never had such strange experience. We exchanged personal information, next day I didn’t find such people only with similar families. But this was only beginning of the strange event sequence.
      Every night when I started my lucid dreaming, then I saw her flying on the sky. She looked like a witch (woman on the broom).
      I followed her every time I saw her and tried to talk to her. She was flying every time to somewhere and didn’t take much attention to me, but she always answered when I was talking to her. One night she was happy, and another she was avoiding me, that confuse me a lot. I decided don’t pay attention to her and see what happens, then she began to look after me.
      After few days I began to wonder how it is possible, because my sleeping time differed about 4-5 hours, so how can we met (I have lucid dreams only on the mornings) . One day I met her about 12 am. So next night I asked her – “how do you get here. Are you sleeping now?” and to my surprise it was she answered to the second question – “No, I’m not sleeping now”. That was very strange to me.
      One day before sleeping I saw flames in woman eyes, which were really strange.
      That night I was loosing my focus and stocked in to blackout (All the time I saw only black).
      And I feel that I still have the connection with her. I said “if you can hear me please take my hand”. I felt her hand in mine, that’s was very strange (I was in blackout) then we continued conversation.
      Next day I thought about all that very seriously. I’m a Christian, so I asked God –“ if this person/spirit is bad, please cancel this connection and please give me sign that I can understand”. That night I was in astonishment, because my prayer was fulfilled. When I become lucid, I started to look around where is she. When I flew after her nice and bright dream became into a dark and a little bit scary. There was like a village (small dark houses in a dark forest) the people looked like witches or some dark arts mages. I moved down then and entered to the one of house (there was some attraction to that house). House looked empty but suddenly there appeared an old woman (I assumed that could be friend of mine mother). We began conversation about me and her daughter. She was very angry and annoyed with me. Old woman told me many strange things about me and “her daughter”, there was talking about our future family and kids. Old woman said that I don’t match for her daughter because of my gospel, but she can change that if I want and we can be together with her daughter. I didn’t agreed with that, then she become really crazy. She said- “if you come back here again I will curse you”. I said –“we didn’t do anything wrong” and then old woman turn out and walk away. My dream suddenly ends up and I woke up.

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      maybe someone have a similar experience, advises or explanations would be really nice.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      Hi,
      sorry for poor English.

      I started to dream mutual dreaming about one week before.
      All began with a fight between me and unknown person. I woke up many times then I asked him – “Why are you doing this” and to my surprise it was she and she answered – “because I’m angry”. After that we were talking together and I have never had such strange experience. We exchanged personal information, next day I didn’t find such people only with similar families. But this was only beginning of the strange event sequence.
      Every night when I started my lucid dreaming, then I saw her flying on the sky. She looked like a witch (woman on the broom).
      I followed her every time I saw her and tried to talk to her. She was flying every time to somewhere and didn’t take much attention to me, but she always answered when I was talking to her. One night she was happy, and another she was avoiding me, that confuse me a lot. I decided don’t pay attention to her and see what happens, then she began to look after me.
      After few days I began to wonder how it is possible, because my sleeping time differed about 4-5 hours, so how can we met (I have lucid dreams only on the mornings) . One day I met her about 12 am. So next night I asked her – “how do you get here. Are you sleeping now?” and to my surprise it was she answered to the second question – “No, I’m not sleeping now”. That was very strange to me.
      One day before sleeping I saw flames in woman eyes, which were really strange.
      That night I was loosing my focus and stocked in to blackout (All the time I saw only black).
      And I feel that I still have the connection with her. I said “if you can hear me please take my hand”. I felt her hand in mine, that’s was very strange (I was in blackout) then we continued conversation.
      Next day I thought about all that very seriously. I’m a Christian, so I asked God –“ if this person/spirit is bad, please cancel this connection and please give me sign that I can understand”. That night I was in astonishment, because my prayer was fulfilled. When I become lucid, I started to look around where is she. When I flew after her nice and bright dream became into a dark and a little bit scary. There was like a village (small dark houses in a dark forest) the people looked like witches or some dark arts mages. I moved down then and entered to the one of house (there was some attraction to that house). House looked empty but suddenly there appeared an old woman (I assumed that could be friend of mine mother). We began conversation about me and her daughter. She was very angry and annoyed with me. Old woman told me many strange things about me and “her daughter”, there was talking about our future family and kids. Old woman said that I don’t match for her daughter because of my gospel, but she can change that if I want and we can be together with her daughter. I didn’t agreed with that, then she become really crazy. She said- “if you come back here again I will curse you”. I said –“we didn’t do anything wrong” and then old woman turn out and walk away. My dream suddenly ends up and I woke up.
      Well dunno if you OBB during your sleeps. But dreams usually carry symbolic messages, so try relating what's happening in that dream with what you're living now , and maybe those symbols are advices for something you want/need to do.

      On other hand pay atention to that girls escence, if you really know how to feel her, you might see someone in real life that has the same escence you have to use your third eye/intuition to sense her but I think you can do this already, you will recognize it's the girl from the dream, if you do, ask here about her dreams.

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      Hey brotha! No need to apologize for poor English! I can only speak a local dialect besides English that is worthless outside of my islands. Where are you from?

      That experience is crazy. Interesting that she said she is not asleep. She sounds like a real person. I have dreams of real people all the time, so I know it's true.

      I can't really give you any advice, because I don't know what you want. For my personal experiences, just click on the shared dream journal in my signature below.

      What was the fight like? Was it a physical fight? A magical fight?

      She sounds like a witch, but I don't think she's evil. She has powers, and is angry, but it sounds like she likes you, and doesn't mean you any harm. It sounds like her mother is a controlling person. Maybe you can ask her about that.

      I have a feeling she is going to keep reappearing in your dreams. Real people do that.
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      Hi,
      I forgot to mention, that after she comes info my dreams I become sick. All day my head was under some pressure. Sometimes I felled that someone trying to come into had of mine. After I prayed to God and pleased – “ If she is bad person who want to make a harm to me or my surrounding then cancel connection and give a sign that I can understand”. The same night I had dream about old lady…. Next day I felt really better. All became as usual. In my dreams wasn’t any sings of her. She used only basic fight and can only obstruct my way after I prayed (In my dream) she can’t do anything to me.
      I believe in God very much. I can stop any think who don’t likes me. I just need to pray in my dreams ( I discovered this in recent events).
      My family had a bad experience with spirits, maybe because of that, or maybe I made a wrong invitation (“is here any who are not dreaming?”).
      By the way I learned very easy tactic how to include lucid dreamers into my dream. I cry in my dream – “is here any lucid dreamers?” , then I hear people and just add them to my dream (I visualize that they are ported directly to my dream).


      P.S. I’m playing good in my dreams. Discovered if you good - there is no limit for you, if you are bad then something is changing and you a little bit weaken.
      I am from Lithuania.
      Last edited by Dovanele; 10-02-2009 at 02:50 PM.

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      Dovanele, what plays at your benefit is your nature if you're light tended doing good things maybe work well, but if you're a demon you can't be that good at healing angels xP

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      Quote Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
      Dovanele, what plays at your benefit is your nature if you're light tended doing good things maybe work well, but if you're a demon you can't be that good at healing angels xP
      Life is a choice! If you take a consideration in a dream/life every time you make a choice and the present is the result of choices you made. The people who use dark arts in their life they have to pay for it later. The man purpose is the higher goodness. If you do good you feel good. If you do wrong things you feel bad. The man come into this world as a good creature (it's a nature).
      By the way i can defeat any demon just in few seconds(even I'm not fully lucid), because I believe that there is the higher Good who can take care the problems that I can't conquer myself.

      Lets get back to the main theme.
      This night I felt every people energy in my dream very clearly so I think it's possible to make a harm for people in real life. Theory is: if you know person energy and you have psychic abilities in real life, you can use that to make a harm for that person. So All needs to be careful with the other subjects in the dream. Some of us control dreams so there in no wonder if some of us has other powers.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      Life is a choice! If you take a consideration in a dream/life every time you make a choice and the present is the result of choices you made. The people who use dark arts in their life they have to pay for it later. The man purpose is the higher goodness. If you do good you feel good. If you do wrong things you feel bad. The man come into this world as a good creature (it's a nature).
      By the way i can defeat any demon just in few seconds(even I'm not fully lucid), because I believe that there is the higher Good who can take care the problems that I can't conquer myself.
      well yeah things tend to go back to God, love, respect, compassion. But darkness isn't bad, darkness hides things that's why evil beings lurk there. I don't absolutely understand light and darkness it's a complicated matter. I trust that you can be alot of demons I'm sure , but not all are same, stronger and more skilled demons don't waste their time attacking people , they spend it in bigger proyects and stuff.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      Lets get back to the main theme.
      This night I felt every people energy in my dream very clearly so I think it's possible to make a harm for people in real life. Theory is: if you know person energy and you have psychic abilities in real life, you can use that to make a harm for that person. So All needs to be careful with the other subjects in the dream. Some of us control dreams so there in no wonder if some of us has other powers.
      Yes I believe it's possible , and I can tell you that I also have that skill :3 , I can feel people in my dreams in person and in chatting.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      Hi,
      I forgot to mention, that after she comes info my dreams I become sick. All day my head was under some pressure. Sometimes I felled that someone trying to come into had of mine. After I prayed to God and pleased – “ If she is bad person who want to make a harm to me or my surrounding then cancel connection and give a sign that I can understand”. The same night I had dream about old lady…. Next day I felt really better. All became as usual. In my dreams wasn’t any sings of her. She used only basic fight and can only obstruct my way after I prayed (In my dream) she can’t do anything to me.
      I believe in God very much. I can stop any think who don’t likes me. I just need to pray in my dreams ( I discovered this in recent events).
      My family had a bad experience with spirits, maybe because of that, or maybe I made a wrong invitation (“is here any who are not dreaming?”).
      By the way I learned very easy tactic how to include lucid dreamers into my dream. I cry in my dream – “is here any lucid dreamers?” , then I hear people and just add them to my dream (I visualize that they are ported directly to my dream).


      P.S. I’m playing good in my dreams. Discovered if you good - there is no limit for you, if you are bad then something is changing and you a little bit weaken.
      I am from Lithuania.
      Wow! That is so cool. "Are there any lucid dreamers here?" Great idea. I agree that there are dangers to in group dreaming or shared dreaming. Do you have a dream journal? I would love to read about your experiences with other lucid dreamers.

      I recently had a series of shared lucid dreams where I was attacked repeatedly by the same person. He was only a boy that was being influenced by demons. My friend and I helped him, and now he is just a boy again.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
      well yeah things tend to go back to God, love, respect, compassion. But darkness isn't bad, darkness hides things that's why evil beings lurk there. I don't absolutely understand light and darkness it's a complicated matter. I trust that you can be alot of demons I'm sure , but not all are same, stronger and more skilled demons don't waste their time attacking people , they spend it in bigger proyects and stuff.

      Yes I believe it's possible , and I can tell you that I also have that skill :3 , I can feel people in my dreams in person and in chatting.
      You can be a lot of demons?

      Feel people "in chatting"? If English is your second language, I apologize. I find these two statements very confusing. Please elaborate.
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      WakingNomad,
      I dont' have a dream journal, because I have a mutuals dreams only 2 weeks

      These dream has begun when I removed all knowledge fronts from my head about lucid dreaming and I make a goal of dreams for myself.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      WakingNomad,
      I dont' have a dream journal, because I have a mutuals dreams only 2 weeks

      These dream has begun when I removed all knowledge fronts from my head about lucid dreaming and I make a goal of dreams for myself.
      I have been having mutual dreams only three weeks. It's rare for some reason. I would love to read it. I understand English is a second language, but I would greatly appreciate it if you wrote it. I am sure a lot of others would be interested in reading it also.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      I recently had a series of shared lucid dreams where I was attacked repeatedly by the same person. He was only a boy that was being influenced by demons. My friend and I helped him, and now he is just a boy again.
      I read that you have an experience with the spirits also and how you notice demons influence on person?
      What method did you used to free the boy from demons influence. How to know is the person in your dream real or just a spirit?

      P.S. Almost all of my extraordinary experience(paranormal activity) is written here, all other dreams aren’t worth to mention here. It was like a repetition before the big show

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      I read that you have an experience with the spirits also and how you notice demons influence on person?
      What method did you used to free the boy from demons influence. How to know is the person in your dream real or just a spirit?

      P.S. Almost all of my extraordinary experience(paranormal activity) is written here, all other dreams aren’t worth to mention here. It was like a repetition before the big show
      Well, I believe all spirits are people, but, I knew Joseph was a real person, because he referred to the forums saying, "your tutorial sucks." He also said a lot of bad words like an angry child.

      It was a team effort to help Joseph. It took four of us. You can read about it in our shared dream journal. The link in is in my signature.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      You can be a lot of demons?

      Feel people "in chatting"? If English is your second language, I apologize. I find these two statements very confusing. Please elaborate.


      you can BEAT a lot of demons.

      I can feel people, feel their energy by chating with them in msn o.o

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      Quote Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
      you can BEAT a lot of demons.

      I can feel people, feel their energy by chating with them in msn o.o
      Oh ok. Thanks! I get it now!
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      Quote Originally Posted by mowglycdb View Post
      But darkness isn't bad, darkness hides things that's why evil beings lurk there. I don't absolutely understand light and darkness it's a complicated matter. I trust that you can be alot of demons I'm sure , but not all are same, stronger and more skilled demons don't waste their time attacking people , they spend it in bigger proyects and stuff.
      First of all I don’t care about the demons, now I don’t even fight with them. I just ask God to make them disappear and never let them to go back.

      On my opinion dark side is that who only want to use people’s energy for themselves in exchange they give them something, but this is illusion and trick you so you going into self destruction. Dark usually make things despite human will.
      Light side usually gives you more than take. It gives you joy of life, love and so on. For all that ask only to help others and try to make all life better.

      In every religion dark always described as evil power that tricks you to make you a toy of them. I do whatever it wants despite human will. It related with everything that is bad in our life. I never hear about dark religions which motivate joy, love, happiness, calmness.
      So if you want to live in a chaos without joy, love, happiness, calmness and so on and be enslaved. This is your choice.

      P.S. Why spirit’s that are got stuck cant find the way out, unless they go to the light?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      First of all I don’t care about the demons, now I don’t even fight with them. I just ask God to make them disappear and never let them to go back.

      On my opinion dark side is that who only want to use people’s energy for themselves in exchange they give them something, but this is illusion and trick you so you going into self destruction. Dark usually make things despite human will.
      Light side usually gives you more than take. It gives you joy of life, love and so on. For all that ask only to help others and try to make all life better.
      Darkness is there for something. You can't show your light, you can't experiment it if there's no darkness. If you need to recieve joy, there's darkness in you.


      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      In every religion dark always described as evil power that tricks you to make you a toy of them. I do whatever it wants despite human will. It related with everything that is bad in our life. I never hear about dark religions which motivate joy, love, happiness, calmness.
      So if you want to live in a chaos without joy, love, happiness, calmness and so on and be enslaved. This is your choice.
      Sure like I said darkness hides things, and it tries to contain aspects that are far from Gods nature but that doesn't mean it's bad.


      Quote Originally Posted by Dovanele View Post
      P.S. Why spirit’s that are got stuck cant find the way out, unless they go to the light?
      because they can't see. Darkness hides things and they created that condition in their mind (notice that the mind doesn't depend on a brain).

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