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    The Rodeo

    by , 07-24-2013 at 05:08 PM (1235 Views)
    It's been a while since I had a WILD and this one had by far the most violent transition I've experienced yet. Kinda cool!

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    Lucid #124: The Rodeo

    I've been awake a while post-WBTB and I feel anxious "Am I ever gonna sleep?" thoughts creeping in. I roll to my side, relax my mind, and try to focus on hypnagogia while counting backward in a style like "100... I'm dreaming... 99... I'm dreaming..." Around the low 90s, I feel something like a thump in my head and then a loud crackle of electricity, followed by the sensation of shaking. My WILD transitions are usually very low-profile, so this surprises me. The whole thing is jolting but more exciting than unpleasant. I try to stay relaxed, prepared for the possibility of more weirdness.

    Now everything is dark and I hear voices whispering in my ear. It's a bit creepy, but I know that this is normal and that I'm probably beginning to dream. I imagine myself oozing out of bed OBE-style. My body stretches like a piece of rubber, my feet meet the floor, and I'm standing in my bedroom. I'm wearing my orange-tinted safety glasses instead of my sleep mask, so it's really, really obvious that this is a dream.

    Everything is dark, jumpy, and unstable. My body is moving too quickly and I keep crashing into things. I look at myself in the mirror and I can make out the shape of a man but visual quality is so low that I can't see much beyond that. I drift into the master bathroom and run straight into the counter. Then I float back to the master bedroom, going too far and wind up standing right over Wife. I reach down and touch her hip and shoulder and try to get myself anchored, but when she stirs I feel bad thinking about her DC waking up to see a creepy ghost looming over her.

    The whole scene feels only half-painted. Okay, let's just get out of here. I run for the window. The shutters are closed, but I dive through, phasing into the void and then immediately rubbing my hands together to keep things stable. I kneel down and touch the floor, which feels like it's covered with dirty industrial carpet. I try to shift this toward being the sand of the Colosseum's floor, and as I keep touching it, it starts to feel more and more like a really dirty carpet. Hoping this is close enough, I start to imagine the arena all around me.

    Now I can see my hands brushing over patterned, dimly illuminated carpet. The lighting is poor, and without thinking I look up to see that I'm inside a dark, empty stadium. I can't tell where the light's coming from but just at the edge of the light, I can vaguely make out empty stands. I remember podcasting about low light and I try to use my own advice of imagining how bright it is, but can't find any light source. I look hopelessly up at the ceiling, feeling embarrassed that I can't even make my own suggestion work.

    Okay, next idea, also from the podcast: quit worrying about it. I jump up and start flying around the stadium, looking for people in the stands. There -- a group of 3 or 4 about halfway up. I keep circling, spotting more and more people. And as I look for them, the light in the scene grows to accomodate my expectations. After doing this for a while, there's a healthy crowd gathered in the stands and the scene is well-lit. Happy with this change, I land to find workers scurrying back and forth on the stadium floor preparing it for some kind of event. Everyone's in Western wear, and when I check, the crowd is too! It looks like they're putting on a rodeo in this stadium.

    An announcer, a man in his late 40s with a bushy mustache and a cowboy hat, is under the spotlight and speaking into a microphone to warm up the crowd. I forget what he says, but they think he's great, and they cheer wildly at his words. I approach him and he holds the microphone up to me. "Uh," I say. "I want to turn this into the Colosseum."

    He replies into the microphone, warmly but firmly: "No can do, boss." The crowd applauds. I think about forcing the change anyway, but I feel overwhelmed by the scope of the task. I just can't seem to build up the confidence that I need. I wander out through an exit hall, leaving the rodeo behind me.

    I'm outside now and it's night. I walk through a narrow street, emerging near a restaurant patio. I'm close to the ocean. I see the water and I can hear the sound of the surf. Nearby a woman talking on her cellphone glances up at me, gives me a nod of acknowledgement, and walks away, still talking. I walk along the oceanside road for a little while, coming to a shopping center. A dark-haired woman in her late 20s approaches me. "Hi!" she says. I notice that she has a somewhat upturned nose. I also notice that I'm finding her very cute.

    "I'm looking for the Colosseum," I tell her. "Can you show me where it is?"

    "Oh, I'm really sorry! I have no idea where that is."

    I feel discouraged and stuck. I tell her about my Colosseum goal and she nods along with my explanation. I no longer know what my plans are for this dream. Somehow I wind up telling her that I want to kiss her, she says go ahead, and so I do. As I'm kissing her (eyes open, dream stabilization style), I see three younger girls ranging from maybe 8-14 or so watching us with expressions ranging from horror to mild amusement. I notice that these three have her same upturned nose. Are they her little sisters? Her kids? Feeling embarrassed and a little confused, I pull away. "Bye!" she says brightly, and the four of them wander off together.

    I continue through the shopping center, coming to a slightly darker hallway with shops on each side and a planter with a large palm tree in the middle of it. I hear Indian music coming from somewhere down the hallway, and as I walk toward the music,
    the dream ends.

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    1. NyxCC's Avatar
      Around the low 90s, I feel something like a thump in my head and then a loud crackle of electricity, followed by the sensation of shaking. My WILD transitions are usually very low-profile, so this surprises me. The whole thing is jolting but more exciting than unpleasant. I try to stay relaxed, prepared for the possibility of more weirdness.
      As if reading your cool dreams isn't enough, now you're keeping me guessing what kind of exciting sensations you are going to get!

      Now everything is dark and I hear voices whispering in my ear. It's a bit creepy, but I know that this is normal and that I'm probably beginning to dream. I imagine myself oozing out of bed OBE-style. My body stretches like a piece of rubber, my feet meet the floor, and I'm standing in my bedroom
      Man, good job keeping your cool and transitioning from this stage. I probably would have gone a bit nutty at this point. By the way any memory what the voices said, was it like they were commenting something or addressing you? It was very funny a week ago, I hear coming from the dreamlet a friend tell me that I'm ugly!

      Very cool thing with the rodeo too! That's one of those unexpected things that your subcon conjures at the spur of the moment. When reading the entry, I got another idea, how about corrida in the colosseum? (I'm not really a fan of this, but for TOTY that might do) There are quite a lot of preserved Roman stadiums, that look like mini-colosseums. Events are hosted there even today.

      Your dreaming self might have felt a bit down at the end there, but I still love the scene. CL walking down the beach at night, kissing a cute DC lady. The dreamworld is yours, there's nothing more you need.
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    2. Highlander's Avatar
      Sounds a cool transition!
      It would have been interesting if you had of woke her (your wife) up just after the transition, whether you would have influenced her dream, although I keep an open mind about that sort of thing.

      CL, has your wife ever tried LD, or had any?
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    3. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by NyxCC
      As if reading your cool dreams isn't enough, now you're keeping me guessing what kind of exciting sensations you are going to get!
      Thanks! This was a huge surprise for me because I kind of thought that my WILD style was just to have these silky smooth transitions where I pluck a dream scene out of the air and walk into it. This was full of weird sensations and plunged me into a more void-like experience. Although I felt like I was still in my room, since that's where I just was, which is what I think led to it being so OBE-like.

      Man, good job keeping your cool and transitioning from this stage. I probably would have gone a bit nutty at this point. By the way any memory what the voices said, was it like they were commenting something or addressing you? It was very funny a week ago, I hear coming from the dreamlet a friend tell me that I'm ugly!
      LOL. That story about your friend's voice is so funny! No, I don't recall being able to make out any of it. It definitely felt creepy, but as far as I can remember, nothing meaningful was really in there. I did feel like I was being addressed, sometimes urgently, but I don't recall hearing my name or anything like that.

      Very cool thing with the rodeo too! That's one of those unexpected things that your subcon conjures at the spur of the moment. When reading the entry, I got another idea, how about corrida in the colosseum? (I'm not really a fan of this, but for TOTY that might do) There are quite a lot of preserved Roman stadiums, that look like mini-colosseums. Events are hosted there even today.
      Ah wow, that's pretty clever! So you're thinking maybe have the bulls come out, transition that into a bullfight and work on making it into the Colosseum in the background. I wish I could come up with plans like that on the fly! But something like this could even be pre-planned, in a way. One thing I could have done was just expect a gladiator to come lumbering out from somewhere, I focus on him, imagining all of the rodeo attendees as being in ancient Rome, and maybe before long the whole scene is the way that I want it.

      Just flowing with things, you know? The problem I had here was that I got jammed up with the way the dream had laid things out and couldn't shake it. I even knew it was happening but just couldn't fathom how I was supposed to fix it. At the time I was even thinking how I wish my waking self could handle this.

      Your dreaming self might have felt a bit down at the end there, but I still love the scene. CL walking down the beach at night, kissing a cute DC lady. The dreamworld is yours, there's nothing more you need.
      Thanks, I appreciate that. You're right -- the whole point is to just enjoy and explore. And as long as I keep showing up to try again, it doesn't matter whether I nail the task or not. Well, as long as I keep showing up while it's still 2013, that is. =D
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    4. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      Sounds a cool transition!
      It would have been interesting if you had of woke her (your wife) up just after the transition, whether you would have influenced her dream, although I keep an open mind about that sort of thing.

      CL, has your wife ever tried LD, or had any?
      I know, that would have been kind of interesting! She always makes for an interesting, entertaining, realistic DC. The realism cuts both ways, though, because it's very hard for me to do something that would enrage her IWL (like waking her up.)

      Unfortunately, Wife has absolutely no interest in lucid dreaming and pretty much thinks that it's a waste of time. This kind of put me in a funk when I first accepted it, but I've come to terms with it. I think she's missing out!

      Maybe someday, eh?
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    5. NyxCC's Avatar
      This was full of weird sensations and plunged me into a more void-like experience. Although I felt like I was still in my room, since that's where I just was, which is what I think led to it being so OBE-like.
      It was really intriguing to read about your experiences. While I am happy my post insomnia experiences with WILD have also been low profile, I can't help being curious about all these weird things that may happen.

      I wish I could come up with plans like that on the fly! But something like this could even be pre-planned, in a way. One thing I could have done was just expect a gladiator to come lumbering out from somewhere, I focus on him, imagining all of the rodeo attendees as being in ancient Rome, and maybe before long the whole scene is the way that I want it.
      You know we have discussed this many times, but I'll say it again, this time with a slightly different direction of thought. It seems to me that especially in lds my thinking is more restrained. It's not just that I am lacking the daily world rationality, I am also less creative than non-lds. I guess apart from the obvious explanation about areas of the brain being turned off, etc., it just simply may take too much concentration to try to hold on to the dream and remember tasks, and be absolutely ready to come up with a plan how to complete these tasks with whatever dream material you have. I don't know, or maybe it's an old habit I have forgotten about. When I was a kid, I could take any piece of furniture and in my imagination it could turn into a mountain, a continent, a train. I didn't have hallucinations, I just pretended it was whatever I wanted it to be and played my game. If only I could re-activate the same kind of approach, then I could build up anything with whatever is available. I'm sure it's possible, but it will take practice.

      Unfortunately, Wife has absolutely no interest in lucid dreaming and pretty much thinks that it's a waste of time. This kind of put me in a funk when I first accepted it, but I've come to terms with it. I think she's missing out!Maybe someday, eh?
      Irronically, this is exactly what my bf said "a waste of time". Well, I have to admit that consistent journalling may indeed be taking extra time, but I really can't see how being aware and actively participating in dreams can be a waste of time. Anyways, same situation here, there's nothing to do about it, plus you never know, one day the partner may get to have an eye-opening ld.
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      Updated 07-25-2013 at 12:39 AM by NyxCC
    6. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      You know we have discussed this many times, but I'll say it again, this time with a slightly different direction of thought. It seems to me that especially in lds my thinking is more restrained. It's not just that I am lacking the daily world rationality, I am also less creative than non-lds. I guess apart from the obvious explanation about areas of the brain being turned off, etc., it just simply may take too much concentration to try to hold on to the dream and remember tasks, and be absolutely ready to come up with a plan how to complete these tasks with whatever dream material you have. I don't know, or maybe it's an old habit I have forgotten about. When I was a kid, I could take any piece of furniture and in my imagination it could turn into a mountain, a continent, a train. I didn't have hallucinations, I just pretended it was whatever I wanted it to be and played my game. If only I could re-activate the same kind of approach, then I could build up anything with whatever is available. I'm sure it's possible, but it will take practice.
      This is a great point. I should read up more on how creativity works in the brain. Now I'm under no delusion that it's as simple as "creativity happens in part A of the brain and nowhere else", but it's interesting to note how in dreams (even lucid dreams) certain areas of the brain are dulled.

      Even more fascinating is that we experience incredible creativity from our subconscious during dreams but tend to (as a rule) not be incredibly creative with our own actions. It's almost like we are set apart from our creativity and marvel at it as outsiders.

      Thanks for saying it this way.

      Irronically, this is exactly what my bf said "a waste of time". Well, I have to admit that consistent journalling may indeed be taking extra time, but I really can't see how being aware and actively participating in dreams can be a waste of time. Anyways, same situation here, there's nothing to do about it, plus you never know, one day the partner may get to have an eye-opening ld.
      Exactly right! All I can do for now is plant the seed and try not to be too big of a pain in the butt. Perhaps if I can work on my lucid people skills I can still sell this idea at some future date.
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    7. Highlander's Avatar
      My GF plays the 'memory' card, (or lack of) for her excuse in regard to having a real interest in dreams. (See what I did there!)
      I do tell her most of mine. She does sound interested, but she confesses about not remembering hers whatsoever, unless she has a bad nightmare, etc.
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    8. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      My GF plays the 'memory' card, (or lack of) for her excuse in regard to having a real interest in dreams. (See what I did there!)
      I do tell her most of mine. She does sound interested, but she confesses about not remembering hers whatsoever, unless she has a bad nightmare, etc.
      I don't know whether you had to work hard to train your recall, but mine started out very poor, maybe remembering a couple dreams a month. It's such a trainable skill but it does require a certain level of interest. If I hadn't gotten an accidental lucid dream, I may have never developed enough interest to actually pursue it.

      Until you experience it, it's sort of like, yeah, yeah, you realize you're dreaming. Guess that's cool.
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    9. Highlander's Avatar
      My recall was probably about a couple of dreams a week; perhaps with the odd fragment or two as well beforehand.
      WBTB helps with my recall, plus a DJ. However I can be really lazy and not write anything down and pick my recall back up when I choose, usually on a 'non-busy' day schedule.
      I did notice when I started doing more 'dreamwork' that I started noticing the more subtle things like HI, auditory hallucinations, FA's and transition experiences, etc.
      I'm sure you noticed that too CL.

      P.S: On the last bit of your paragraph I find that so true.
      I had an LD last year where I tried my hand at summoning. I turned the corner and what I had imagined was there - it blew my mind at the time; it was one of the most memorable lucids I've ever had.
      I think it was when I started experimenting with Menthol, just over exactly a year ago.
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      Updated 07-25-2013 at 09:31 PM by Highlander
    10. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      Awesome. I completely agree that dream work helps introduce you to the subtleties of the process of falling asleep and dreaming. Rather than a broad category of "weird stuff that happens when I go to bed", you get a much richer, much more precise understanding about the process. It's a very interesting part of the human (mammalian?) experience and I'm glad I didn't miss it.

      I really need to get my next menthol experiment in! The last two I messed up because I wound up oversleeping and then had to just drink the tea before breakfast.
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    11. NyxCC's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by CanisLucidis
      I don't know whether you had to work hard to train your recall, but mine started out very poor, maybe remembering a couple dreams a month. It's such a trainable skill but it does require a certain level of interest. If I hadn't gotten an accidental lucid dream, I may have never developed enough interest to actually pursue it.

      Until you experience it, it's sort of like, yeah, yeah, you realize you're dreaming. Guess that's cool.
      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      My recall was probably about a couple of dreams a week; perhaps with the odd fragment or two as well beforehand.
      WBTB helps with my recall, plus a DJ. However I can be really lazy and not write anything down and pick my recall back up when I choose, usually on a 'non-busy' day schedule.
      You certainly have walked a long way. I've always had more or less good recall compared to family members I shared my dreams with, if that's any gauge. However, I also did intially experience a big boost in recall once I started posting here. Then for some reason it got much worse (I think it was schedule related). Now, it just fluctuates but I'm fine with that. There might be cool stuff I'm missing out, but journalling 1-2 pages a day is hard unless you plan to write a book out the whole thing.

      I think it is pretty difficult to imagine what a lucid dream is if you have never experienced one. But then, I think that everyone has had at least the vague feeling that they might be dreaming, just they can't recall or don't highlight such experiences as something special that you can expand on.

      I did notice when I started doing more 'dreamwork' that I started noticing the more subtle things like HI, auditory hallucinations, FA's and transition experiences, etc
      I can say that reading info on DV has brought my attention to those things as well. A lot of them have been there, but I didn't know how to use them. And of course, there's still so much to learn...

      Quote Originally Posted by CanisLucis
      If I hadn't gotten an accidental lucid dream, I may have never developed enough interest to actually pursue it.
      I love those weird things that happen that may unlock a whole series of fantastic events. Do you by any chance remember what this first ld was about?
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      Updated 07-26-2013 at 02:04 AM by NyxCC
    12. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      You certainly have walked a long way. I've always had more or less good recall compared to family members I shared my dreams with, if that's any gauge. However, I also did intially experience a big boost in recall once I started posting here. Then for some reason it got much worse (I think it was schedule related). Now, it just fluctuates but I'm fine with that. There might be cool stuff I'm missing out, but journalling 1-2 pages a day is hard unless you plan to write a book out the whole thing.
      Yeah, the journaling can get really time consuming! My journaling for NLDs is often very, very clinical and pitiless. And sometimes un-grammatical!

      I love those weird things that happen that may unlock a whole series of fantastic events. Do you by any chance remember what this first ld was about?
      I do too! It's cool and scary at the same time how when you look back, there are times where you see that the direction of your life was balanced on a knife's edge. Little decisions could influence whether you wind up with the same spouse! Brain-melting to think about.

      I do remember my first LD very well in fact! It's even journaled here. (My DV journal is a complete record of all my lucids... well, apart from micro-lucids.) This is it: Flashback: Lucid Kitchen Aggression - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views First thing I do? Break stuff.
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    13. Highlander's Avatar
      @ NyxCC.
      Thanks.
      I've notice my recall improve since DV. I had a trawl through some of last year's entries of mine and I'm quite amazed at some of the dreams & detail!

      @ NyxCC, @ CL.
      I destroyed/lost some of my early ld entries from over 20 years ago, but I can still remember some details of the memorable ones. They were only a handful.
      I'm gonna see if I can recount them where I will write them down in the near future.

      Here is an example, although this is probably a highly vivid set of NLD's during the space of one night; quite a memorable night too!

      The P.O.W camp. The (succubus like) cloud - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      I was into art, dreams, etc. even back then!

      @ CL.
      Regarding your entry - excellent. I'm gonna go round an IKEA showroom in my next lucid with an axe! I'm tempted to suggest it as a future TOTM?!!

      The grey at the end is probably one of your first experiences with the 'void' too.

      P.S: I do remember a really EARLY childhood memory which feels more like a 'past-life memory' rather than an early dream.
      In it, I'm a small child walking up this set of stairs. I walk on this landing up to this white Georgian panelled door which I think was slightly ajar as I can see the yellow sunlight.
      I push it open and I go in where I remember seeing the bright yellow sunlight flooding across the floor from the window across into the room.
      (We didn't live in a place like that IWL.)

      It was absolutely amazing seeing the bright sunlight or twilight peel/stream across the floor. It still brings tears to my eyes sometimes now when I try and recount/re-visualize it.

      This is one of the things that sparked off my interest in dreams and stuff back in the day.
      I'm tempted to try and re-incubate, but I don't know if that is wise as it means probably going deep into my subconscious, so I dunno?
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      Updated 07-26-2013 at 11:32 AM by Highlander (added postscript)
    14. CanisLucidus's Avatar
      I destroyed/lost some of my early ld entries from over 20 years ago, but I can still remember some details of the memorable ones. They were only a handful.
      I'm gonna see if I can recount them where I will write them down in the near future.
      Cool, I'll have to check out that P.O.W. one! That is really from back in the day.

      Regarding your entry - excellent. I'm gonna go round an IKEA showroom in my next lucid with an axe! I'm tempted to suggest it as a future TOTM?!!

      The grey at the end is probably one of your first experiences with the 'void' too.
      Thanks! And I agree, that was definitely a plunge into the void. It's interesting that at the time I described the coloration of the void as "milky gray" rather than black. I wonder if I was in even less of a "void" state but just had no clue what I was doing or how to manage it. I hit "milky gray" in my 2nd LD as well, but it recovered as soon as I rubbed my hands together. I don't know what to make of the color change since then.

      It makes me think that the "look" of the void itself may be a product of the mind's expectations.

      It was absolutely amazing seeing the bright sunlight or twilight peel/stream across the floor. It still brings tears to my eyes sometimes now when I try and recount/re-visualize it.

      This is one of the things that sparked off my interest in dreams and stuff back in the day.
      I'm tempted to try and re-incubate, but I don't know if that is wise as it means probably going deep into my subconscious, so I dunno?
      Sounds like an amazing memory. I get what you mean about visiting places that you're not sure you should be visiting, but I'm the sort where it's hard for me not to walk through a door when I see it swing open. If you do attempt to re-incubate I'll be interested in seeing how that turns out. I'm a real novice on dream incubation.
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      @ CL.

      Thanks! And I agree, that was definitely a plunge into the void. It's interesting that at the time I described the coloration of the void as "milky gray" rather than black. I wonder if I was in even less of a "void" state but just had no clue what I was doing or how to manage it. I hit "milky gray" in my 2nd LD as well, but it recovered as soon as I rubbed my hands together. I don't know what to make of the color change since then.

      It makes me think that the "look" of the void itself may be a product of the mind's expectations.
      That strikes a chord with me. The greyness seems quite typical. It used to wake me up, then I progressed to thinking it was 'dream blindness.' Now I usually go into a 'normal' lucid dream.
      I would probably like to do what you normally do, as I have had unstable void situations.

      If you do attempt to re-incubate I'll be interested in seeing how that turns out. I'm a real novice on dream incubation.
      I will let you know - incubation I find is best done during WBTB (for me anyhow) as an affirmative MILD where you mull over the subject.

      I wish you luck if you do try it, but in saying that if you are visualizing the Colloseum, etc. then I would have thought that counts as incubation?
      In which case then you seem quite expert at it already.
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      Updated 07-26-2013 at 07:59 PM by Highlander
    16. NyxCC's Avatar
      @ CL

      Quote Originally Posted by CanisLucidis
      I do too! It's cool and scary at the same time how when you look back, there are times where you see that the direction of your life was balanced on a knife's edge. Little decisions could influence whether you wind up with the same spouse! Brain-melting to think about.
      Yeah, that is so true!

      I do remember my first LD very well in fact! It's even journaled here. (My DV journal is a complete record of all my lucids... well, apart from micro-lucids.) This is it: Flashback: Lucid Kitchen Aggression - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views First thing I do? Break stuff.
      Lol! It looks like you already had a plan what to do, even if it was your first ld. I very much like your concluding statement there as well!

      @ Highlander

      Destroyed? That must have been an accident. I have to try to find my first dream journal and check out what was written there. I have some random dream memories that I can't exactly put a date on. My earliest memories were of nightmares, nasty creatures coming to scare me, I remember waking up at night quite distressed.

      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      I'm tempted to try and re-incubate, but I don't know if that is wise as it means probably going deep into my subconscious, so I dunno?
      I'm interested in accessing past memories (rl and dreams), but have so far found it hard to exactly relieve or recall an accurate scene during dreams. However, daydreaming about someone before bed time has yielded nice results. Trying to incubate a memory as you suggested might do the trick, I have to give it a try when in the appropriate mood. I think that if you remain detached, you can find out things about yourself that you never suspected (or have forgotten about).


      @CL, Highlander

      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      The grey at the end is probably one of your first experiences with the 'void' too.
      Quote Originally Posted by CanisLucidis
      Thanks! And I agree, that was definitely a plunge into the void. It's interesting that at the time I described the coloration of the void as "milky gray" rather than black. I wonder if I was in even less of a "void" state but just had no clue what I was doing or how to manage it. I hit "milky gray" in my 2nd LD as well, but it recovered as soon as I rubbed my hands together. I don't know what to make of the color change since then.
      I was recently going through some entries of mine, and it's so funny when I read I have written something like "then it was dark, or black for while and I woke up". Now I think "hey, it's the void!" and even feel excited about it. Those entries were not that long ago. Thanks DV!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Highlander
      I wish you luck if you do try it, but in saying that if you are visualizing the Colloseum, etc. then I would have thought that counts as incubation?
      In which case then you seem quite expert at it already
      Thanks! Something I'm always trying to do (and not necessarily succeeding at) is to incubate certain types of dream content into my non-lucids. I do get certain elements here and there but it's not really to the point where I can just try to dream about something and do it with any consistency at all. (My mom apparently used to be able to do this, and I know that I did it when I was a small child.)

      Quote Originally Posted by NyxCC
      Lol! It looks like you already had a plan what to do, even if it was your first ld. I very much like your concluding statement there as well!
      Thanks! Reading that, it looks like I came to terms with my addiction long ago.

      Quote Originally Posted by NyxCC
      I was recently going through some entries of mine, and it's so funny when I read I have written something like "then it was dark, or black for while and I woke up". Now I think "hey, it's the void!" and even feel excited about it. Those entries were not that long ago. Thanks DV!
      Me too!! I look back at so many entries where it goes all dark and then just ends. I think that in many (if not most) of those cases, the ability to navigate the void would have kept the experience going for a lot longer.

      I'm always glad to look back and see that I've learned new tricks, especially since I've got a lot more new tricks I still need to learn. =)
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      @ NyxCC.
      I destroyed it on purpose. I went through a phase I guess. It was a long time ago, but in hindsight I'd wished I'd kept it.
      I can remember a few of the dreams from it roughly still anyhow, plus there may have only been about 2 - 3 lucid's recorded.
      The layout was nowhere as structured as this one on DV. I only used to put the odd paragraph down for a whole dream!

      Regarding memories & recollections, etc. I usually find music helpful and things that cause links and associations, or even people. (I haven't explained it too well - I should just put association!)

      I'm sorry about the nightmares when you were younger. I bet you could kick their hairy as*es now!

      @ CL
      To incubate at a high standard would be a good skill to have indeed.

      @ NyxCC, CL
      Regarding the void, ld, etc. I have always liked that Foo Fighters 'Everlong' video. The guy who directed it must have been an LD'er, or on drugs, (or both!) Lol.

      The part where Dave Grohl is fondling those women's legs in his dream which then turn to kindling logs/sticks for the fire when he wakes cracks me up.
      I play the whole video sometimes for motovation, etc.

      ... its late and I'm beginning to waffle.
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      What an awesome dream! That transition sounded... electric. But seriously, super cool. Can't imagine what that's like. You got pretty dang close with the Colosseum too! And the woman Nice job man.
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      Thanks, Art, it was a cool one! Brain not working all the way but I had enough brainpower to have a lot of fun.

      Yeah, the "electric" transition was pretty nuts! That's definitely my first time experiencing anything like that and up until then I honestly thought I just had "quiet" WILDs. There are always more surprises...

      You got pretty dang close with the Colosseum too! And the woman
      Ha ha, nice...
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