• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    View RSS Feed

    Oneironaut Zero: Dreamwalker Chronicles

    10/14/2014 - "Pirate Punishment", Fragment

    by , 10-15-2014 at 08:11 AM (944 Views)
    10/14/2014
    Dream One
    "Pirate Punishment"


    I was boarding a ship with others. It looked to be a cruise ship, but smaller than the large vessels that you would normally see leaving from the cape. I don't remember where we were going, but there were quite a few people on the boat.

    While out on the water, before even having gotten too far, our ship was attacked by 'pirates' (for lack of a better name). These guys were real bad news, and seemed as if they had just stepped out of the pages of a comic book. One of them was a dark-clad, helmeted, Darth Vader-looking s.o.b., and he was apparently the overlord of the group.

    The majority of us were down in the ship's hull. The bay door was open, and these goons were ordering us all to surrender to them, or they were going to blow us out of the water. Though there were only a handful of these assailants, we could see that they had the weaponry to take us all out (some of them having metaphysical powers, as well). There was no way we would be able to stop them.

    That's when I realized that I was dreaming.

    Despite having planned to use my lucidity for other things - and never being one to shy away from lucid combat - I allowed the storyline to conduct me and stepped out onto the open rear hatch, eager to turn the tables on these guys. I assured the rest of the people that things were going to be just fine, since "this was just a dream" and "no harm could come to any of [them], anyway!" With that, I levitated out from the wide mouth of the ship's bay door, hovering over the still water of the harbor and squaring up in a position to where I could better face our would-be captors.

    I don't remember too many details of the battle, but I was controlling my flight rather well, changing elevations over the water while evading the attacks from the group of baddies. A bit more action took place between me, the pirates and the passengers, but I don't recall much. Throughout the fight, there were a few times that I used telekinesis to sling my enemies in all directions, but the main thing I remember is facing off against one guy, in particular, that had a throwing knives or straight-razors, that he would throw at me. I don't remember if all of the pirates were able to fly, but I know this guy could. We had a good mid-air cat-and-mouse, and I kept flicking his projectiles away with TK, before they could reach me, guiding them with my hands outstretched, to mentally arc them around my body.

    Finally, unexpectedly, he pulled out a large meat-cleaver and chucked it at me. Still on a telekinesis roll, I waved the weapon off to one side, but then imagined it spinning around behind me, hooking around from my other side and launching back at its previous owner. In a state of shock, the other guy didn't seem to know what to do. It tore through one of this legs, opening an enormous gash in his thigh. When he grabbed his leg and yelled in horror, I knew he was done.

    With the still-spinning cleaver now hovering in the air, nearby, I turned to confront the rest of the invaders. Unfortunately, I don't remember anything passed this point.



    Fragment Two
    Untitled

    I was on a ranch, and about to be taught to ride my first bull, just after seeing a more experienced rider get dumped on his ass. They had smaller, tamer bulls for us amateurs to ride, and I got a good look at mine, through the rails in the fence, while making my way to the pen. Smaller or not, I was preparing for the worst, and wasn't feeling all too confident as I climbed on his back and began to strap myself in...

    All I remember.
    RedKali and JadeGreen like this.

    Submit "10/14/2014 - "Pirate Punishment", Fragment" to Digg Submit "10/14/2014 - "Pirate Punishment", Fragment" to del.icio.us Submit "10/14/2014 - "Pirate Punishment", Fragment" to StumbleUpon Submit "10/14/2014 - "Pirate Punishment", Fragment" to Google

    Updated 11-04-2014 at 10:48 PM by 2450

    Categories
    lucid , non-lucid , dream fragment

    Comments

    1. RedKali's Avatar
      Lucid combat does have an attractive quality to it. I'm wondering if you've noticed any lingering consequences from your combat while dreaming. Some have said they've woken up in pain from a dream inflicted wound (which doesn't determine if the dream caused the pain or if the pain caused the dream, but it's interesting to consider).
      Oneironaut Zero and JadeGreen like this.
    2. Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Lucid combat does have an attractive quality to it.
      It's one of my favorite things in the world!

      And I've definitely awoken with some lingering pain, from dreams. Three examples I can think of, off the top of my head, are:

      - As a kid, having a dream that my foot was bit by a bear that roamed into my backyard, and waking up with a horrible pain in my foot.

      - Dreaming that I had a broken leg, and kept walking on it, stubbornly, trying to help avenge some friends in a fight. I then woke up with a horrible charlie horse in my leg. I believe the pain just manifested itself into the dream as the broken leg.

      - An Avatar dream, where I was being trained to cope with pain, while in the Na'vi body. A burly guy kept repeatedly punching me in the stomach, until I was able to wave off of the pain. The pain persisted for a few minutes after waking, and into the time I was writing my journal entry. It's still likely the mos painful dream I've ever had. You can read it, if you want.

      http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-gall...anagement.html

      How about you? Have you had any similar experiences?
      JadeGreen and RedKali like this.
    3. JadeGreen's Avatar
      Dang! Epic dream story and cool fighting. I like how some of the evil dream characters had powers as well.
      Oneironaut Zero likes this.
    4. Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Thanks, dude! Yeah, it was great! I wish I could remember more about the individual villains, but just the overall battle was so satisfying.
    5. RedKali's Avatar
      See, that's what I'm curious about. Your foot pain and the broken leg, both could easily been induced by real pain. Can't really count the avatar dream in this because you induced it with the movie, so it's pretty clear what caused what.

      I haven't woken up much with lingering dream pain. Though I have experienced anger, crying, orgasms, and panic. These were manifested while in a dream and transferred themselves over to the waking realm. Come to think of it, I've experienced transferred pain. I was with some friends in a dream, they were pulling ghosts/demons out of me. Seems there was an army inside me. In the dream I vomited. Woke up very close to vomiting.

      On a different tangent, it's interesting you were taught to cope with dream pain in the avatar dream. I've learned to distance my emotions from my physical body in other ways so I can't say I've had to be taught that. The other day I was thinking about how useful it is to remain detached from our actions in dreaming; keeps the heart rate lower which helps with stabilization. Yet how far is too far, is there a too far? Nirvana might just be a state of complete detachment; nothing.

      Just thinking out loud here.
      Oneironaut Zero likes this.
      Updated 10-16-2014 at 12:14 AM by RedKali
    6. Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Actually, I'm not too sure that the Avatar dream is so 'open-and-shut'. I may have induced the dream's Avatar theme with the movie, but the whole pain aspect of it wasn't really something brought on by the movie (or even explored in the movie). Even now, I'm not exactly sure where that pain element might have come from. As with the broken leg and bear dream, I'm not sure if the dream content caused my mind to manifest the pain, or if a real injury caused my mind to spin the dream narrative into something facilitating the pain. Either way is fascinating, though, really.

      I've definitely woken up with many of the conditions you stated (although I don't think I've ever woken up with an actual orgasm. I do hear that's quite common in women, though). Funny thing about waking up crying: I once had a dream that I was being chased by the police and disguised myself as a woman. A cop was questioning me and I attempted to get out of it by fake-crying. I actually woke up sobbing a completely-false sob, as if I had really been giving the role all I had. Once I realized what had happened, I rolled over in bed and just laughed at the absurdity of it. Lol.

      Detachment is essential to nirvana, I think. It is an important trait that I believe everyone should have some capacity for. It not only helps us deal with pain (both physical and mental), but it keeps us from obsessing over things, as well, which is generally unhealthy. Growing up, I've always had a low threshold for pain. As I got older, I've learned that coping with it actually relies on a fair bit of detachment. I'm still not the kind of person that takes any kind of pleasure, whatsoever, from pain, but I've learned how to just kinda 'fade out' my hyper-awareness of parts of my body, so that painful experiences are much less intense than they normally might be.

      And moderation is everything. I believe there is a 'too far' to everything. An extreme example would be the type of person who 'detaches' from everything to a point where 'nothing' is all there is. Nothing matters. Nothing changes. Nothing moves them. Nothing is real. Etc. Etc. Detachment, in all its forms, has to be countered with some attention / awareness / consideration, because if you value nothing, and you're passionate about nothing, then what joy is there in being a part of anything?

      I tend to allow myself to get swept up the more interesting storylines of my dreams. It can be easy for me to just detach myself from them and do my own thing, but part of my interest in lucid dreaming has been the adventure of it all, so I sometimes dive into them, like a good book. The adrenaline rushes and split-second decisions; the surreal encounters with unfamiliar elements of my own psyche; the humility of knowing that I'm in my own sandbox, but can still be overwhelmed by the odds my subconscious throws my way - all of that, sometimes, makes me enjoy just 'getting involved' and trying to let the story tell itself, even while I manipulate smaller elements of it to suit my situations.

      Not always, though. Sometimes I completely disconnect from my dream-self's actions, and press 'pause' on whatever's going on around me. But, like I said, everything in moderation. Each method has its merits.
      RedKali likes this.
    7. RedKali's Avatar
      Very true about the Avatar dream not being so easily dismissed. It had occurred to me pain control isn't in the movie. I know there's a point where Jake is restrained (and possibly punched? Been a while...) still though, I don't know if there's even a way to measure which comes first: physical or the mental. I know for emotional responses, I'd like to be able to say those formed in dreams and I experienced them upon waking. On the other hand, who's to say there wasn't a chemical imbalance which brought upon those emotions first, then my mind experienced them in the way it saw fit. Going a little more into that idea, I'd assume manifestation plays a part in this too. Consciousness manifesting itself.

      Kinsey had some interesting research (but it's outdated, 1948) on nocturnal emissions (wet dreams). He gave a range of ~80% of males experiencing this event within their lifetime. Women were lower but still common enough. Though, on a completely superficial note, one study used a lucid dreamer to notify researchers with a pre-determined set of eye motions when she was dreaming, then again when she'd orgasm. They measured different physiological responses, one of them being vaginal pulses. How does one apply to be a participant for such research?! She'd have to be able to lucid dream well enough to communicate with eye motions to the research team upon gaining lucidity, then find a way to have lucid dream sex, then remember to flutter her eyes in a specific sequence during orgasm....all while having a device inserted into her vagina, to measure her response and accuracy. My mind = blown.

      Question here, when you were false sobbing was this during a state of high emotional arousal? I ask because I've only been able to transfer dreaming emotions to reality during a state of high emotional arousal...wondering what's it's like for you. Yeah, and that is a pretty funny story.

      I get what you mean about the 'fade out' in response to pain. It actually remind me of the subspace individuals enter when engaged in BDSM.

      Another question (thank you for entertaining my thoughts!), if detachment is essential to nirvana (which I agree with, btw) wouldn't that be a case of going too far? The point of nirvana is to 'detach from everything to a point where nothing is all there is'. Nothing would matter, nothing would change, nothing would move them. Yet nirvana is the highest form of enlightenment in the eyes of those who practice Buddhism.. so.. I'm going to assume that you aren't a Buddhist... lol.

      I tend to practice a similar approach to lucid dreaming that you've mentioned. There is the understanding that it's my very own sandbox and there are challenges (for me) when I try to manipulate too much of it. Smaller manipulations can lead to the larger manipulations, but it's generally only done by tweaking small details. That's why I usually just 'go along for the ride'. It's difficult to work against myself. Nice hearing you do things similar.
      Oneironaut Zero likes this.
    8. Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Sorry for the long delay. Time's been pretty short for me, but I haven't forgotten about you! Will respond soon.
      RedKali likes this.
    9. RedKali's Avatar
      No worries, I totally understand. Not sure where I was going with any of that ^ anyway. It's just nice being able to think out loud without having to be careful.
      Oneironaut Zero likes this.
    10. Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      I completely agree.
      I tend to enjoy these types of conversations, anyway.
      RedKali likes this.