Why some people who are really very good suffer?

[dattaswami]

You think that a person is very good because of his nice gentle character. There are cheats who are very soft and nice. There are very good and sincere people with rough character. A soft person may be selfish and a rough person may be sacrificial. The Lord cares only for one bad quality, which is the selfishness. He neglects all the other good qualities. A selfish person with all good qualities is like a gold cup with salt water. We pay for the material in the cup and not for the cup. A cruel person with excellent sacrifice is like the earthern cup containing nectar. Lord Siva gave salvation to the hunter for his sacrifice but not to the selfish sacred priest. Thus we do not distinguish the real good and the real bad.

The analysis of the Lord is completely practical and true and is completely different from our analysis. Regarding the problem of your child I advise you to stop worrying about your child. You worry about the work of the Lord and do not think about your problem. In such case your problem disappears in a fraction of a second spontaneously. As long as you do not put attention on your family and concentrate on the Lord’s work, the Lord will take the responsibility of your entire family and in such case the help to your family is unimaginable.
If you concentrate on your family leaving the Lord, your problem will grow more and more. If you concentrate on the Lord and your problem equally, your problem gets partially solved. Now you have to choose one of these alternatives.

[pinkcheese]

Definately needs to be moved.

But, on topic, that's just the way life is. Some things just aren't fair, and I doubt that will ever change.

[spiritofthewolf]

all i got to say is....LUCID DREAMING.......

and god bless the lord for creating Lucid Dreaming :)

[jay dawg]

god dang this guy is a freakin idiot. get the hell off these forums or post this shit in senseless banter u dumbass. no one cares about child/parent relationships on this website. including me

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by jay dawg
god dang this guy is a freakin idiot. get the hell off these forums or post this shit in senseless banter u dumbass. no one cares about child/parent relationships on this website. including me

Peace, jaw dawg! Please try not to insult other members, & settle down jay dawg. Maybe we can talk about this a little, so please try to show a better attitude. :puppydogeyes: .

[Joseph_Stalin]

Originally posted by jay dawg
god dang this guy is a freakin idiot. get the hell off these forums or post this shit in senseless banter u dumbass. no one cares about child/parent relationships on this website. including me

I really don't understand. This thread wasn't bothering you, and yet you waste your time and degrade yourself to make such a pathetic comment. You should also watch you who call an idiot, because you're really making a fool of yourself.

[pytis]

god dang this guy is a freakin idiot. get the hell off these forums or post this shit in senseless banter u dumbass. no one cares about child/parent relationships on this website. including me [/b]

Well hes new to the site and doesint know where to find a place to put this. I was like this when i was new. i didint know about Off-Topic Discussion Forums untill i got to about 40 posts. so dont blame him he did nothing wrong! I posted stuff in the general discuttion becouse i didint know where the sencless banter forum is.I thought the General Discussion was the Off-Topic discussion. We all make mistakes. Forgive and forget!

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by jay dawg
god dang this guy is a freakin idiot. get the hell off these forums or post this shit in senseless banter u dumbass. no one cares about child/parent relationships on this website. including me
Actually, that's what the Lounge is for: all non dream related discussion that doesn't fit another category.

And please restrain from rude behavior. Let the staff do the moderation round here. K?
Thanks.


//moved to Lounge.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by dattaswami
You think that a person is very good because of his nice gentle character. There are cheats who are very soft and nice. There are very good and sincere people with rough character. A soft person may be selfish and a rough person may be sacrificial. The Lord cares only for one bad quality, which is the selfishness. He neglects all the other good qualities. A selfish person with all good qualities is like a gold cup with salt water. We pay for the material in the cup and not for the cup. A cruel person with excellent sacrifice is like the earthern cup containing nectar. Lord Siva gave salvation to the hunter for his sacrifice but not to the selfish sacred priest. Thus we do not distinguish the real good and the real bad.

Notice, that the Brahmic Religion, in which the Brahmin Priests make all of their profits from collecting from the Sacrifices that they extort from the general Public, that the ONLY virtue they recognize or extoll is the Virtue of rendering over Sacriffices to the Priests. It is as though Kidnappers were asked what they consider the greatest virtue, and them answering that they quite favor the ideal of having the people make payments to kidnappers.

Cruelty is absolutely acceptable as long as the Priests are payed off. This is a sad and dismal moral vision. It is in fact almost unbelieveable that anybody should come forward with a vision of such ethical swindle and to propose it as a serious moral ideal. Is this a joke?

We are reminded of the great Historian Arnold Toynbees distinction among Religions, between the Higher Moral Religions, and the primitive or philosophical Religions. Here we must have an example of a Religion with absolutely no higher moral vision whatsoever, in which, once the Brhamins are paid off, one can consider any abuse or decadance or even positive cruelty as a licenced privelege that one has paid one's tariff for. Of course, this is not to say that it is not quite on the par with Paulist Christianity, which subsumes most of Protestantism and some of Catholicism, that their own belief in the Sacrifice of messianic murder, any sin can then be engaged in. Hmmmmm. Do we see a trend here. People seem to think that God is an Extortionist who will quite accept any behavior as long as He Himself is paid off. With Christianity we have the added ridiculous element of supposing that God considers it a Sacrifice when people murder his Messengers. Just how is murdering a Messenger anything of a sacrifice. And then in Brahminism, we have the silliness of supposing that by paying extortion to a race of invaders from the North that the native people will receive some divine benefits thereby. In my mind, it simply does not compute.

But this is not to say that the concept of Sacrifice is always mentioned as a prelude to a swindle. The Spiritual Sense of Sacrifice intends only the sense of hard work and dedication required to succeed in anything. Sacrifice is the practice of the piano player. Sacrifice is the saving up of a downpayment for an automobile. Sacrifice is the Suggestion employed by the Lucid Dreamer. Indeed, Society has institutionalized Sacrifice, in this sense, by requiring most career people to oblige themselves to several years of schooling which is largely useless except when considered as being a Sacrificial Hurdle that applicants must clear so that not everybody could apply for the lucrative jobs they seek. I guess our Universities are our version of the Extortionist Brahmin Priests. Nobody can move up until the Professors are paid off.

[jay dawg]

god dangit man. i wasnt gonna say anything at first but then it was his second topic in a row having NOTHING to do with dreams in any way at all. what i wanna know is why did he find this site if hes into whatever the hell hes talking about if not dreaming.

yes so i get pissed when i read a post only to find it has NOTHING to do with dreaming. get off my back :mad: :mad: (everyone but the mods) :-P

maybe he joined the wrong forums :?:

[AirRick101]

It's good stuff, I liked the one about selfishness being the only bad trait.

But this guy sounds like he doesn't know we are here. Like, he's just talking. His website makes me look like a real person, though....

[Vampyre]

This really reminded me of seeing a sign in front of a church saying "When trouble over takes you, let god take over." And all I thought was "Wow, that's a huge dependance on god to solve everything."

It's no wonder why there isn't supernatural occurances that are invoked by god. Because then people would become completely dependent on it.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of Christianity. And thus I came up with the theory that it's fake. If you want to know how I came to that theory, I'll explain:

The idea behind the UFOs and aliens, is that they might actually be us, humans, from teh future. They would have traveled back in time, and therefore are not permitted to interract with anything, because it could disrupt the future. And taht's probably the reason why the Mayans (not sure how that's spelt, but the an old religious community) disappeared without a single trace. Dinner tables were even set and everything. It was the most noticable time that the future actually interracted with the past. Either it was a test, or an accident.

Now, consider this: If these future people can travel through time, then what is there that could stop them from going back, and leaving behind the bible? That's right, nothing. They could have been living in a semi-chaotic society, and needed a way to give the people hope and possibly dim their violent tendencies. Thus, they created the entire concept of religion, and introduced it to the people in an attempt to help the general public. And after its failure in the future, they needed another way to introduce it. So they altered teh bible slightly, and went back in time, to leave it there. That way, people would find it and follow it, as it would be the only creation to be explained only as a supernatural or religious symbol.

Ah ha!! Think on that one for a while!

[MSG]

Originally posted by Vampyre
The idea behind the UFOs and aliens, is that they might actually be us, humans, from teh future. They would have traveled back in time, and therefore are not permitted to interract with anything, because it could disrupt the future. And taht's probably the reason why the Mayans (not sure how that's spelt, but the an old religious community) disappeared without a single trace. Dinner tables were even set and everything. It was the most noticable time that the future actually interracted with the past. Either it was a test, or an accident.

Now, consider this: If these future people can travel through time, then what is there that could stop them from going back, and leaving behind the bible? That's right, nothing. They could have been living in a semi-chaotic society, and needed a way to give the people hope and possibly dim their violent tendencies. Thus, they created the entire concept of religion, and introduced it to the people in an attempt to help the general public. And after its failure in the future, they needed another way to introduce it. So they altered teh bible slightly, and went back in time, to leave it there. That way, people would find it and follow it, as it would be the only creation to be explained only as a supernatural or religious symbol.

yeah i had suspected the bible had been put here by humans for a reason... im not an outspoken atheist, as I myself am confused as to what to believe in. You're explanation is entirely logical, and it also puts to death the dumbass theory "if time travel exists, then why haven't people came back already?" although i cannot be entirely certain. All i know is that i wont let someone else's religion take over my life... i believe what I believe and i do not force my beliefs upon others. Although i seroiusly doubt they would have gone back 2000 or more years, unless... the time they should have come from has already passed? because they could have just as easily come back and made movies and music to warp the teenage minds.... which is what they're doing!!!???




:P

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by AirRick101
It's good stuff, I liked the one about selfishness being the only bad trait.

But this guy sounds like he doesn't know we are here. Like, he's just talking. His website makes me look like a real person, though....

Actually, when you look over the details, what he was saying was that not making brahmic sacrifices was the only bad trait -- 'selfishness' is seen only so far as it applies to someone not formally paying tribute to the High Priestly Brahmic Caste. You can see that cruelty is permitted as long as sacrifices are paid, but what is 'cruelty' to our way of thinking but the severe indulgence into extreme selfishness.

I think what we have hear is somebody who is preoccuppied with quoting brahmic texts which he doesn't really understand himself.

He posted on this site once before, but never stayed to answer anybody's comments or questions.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by jay dawg
god dangit man. i wasnt gonna say anything at first but then it was his second topic in a row having NOTHING to do with dreams in any way at all. what i wanna know is why did he find this site if hes into whatever the hell hes talking about if not dreaming.

yes so i get pissed when i read a post only to find it has NOTHING to do with dreaming. get off my back :mad: :mad: (everyone but the mods) :-P

maybe he joined the wrong forums :?:
That is okay. Please give him a little space, jay dawg.... (I am a mod at my job, does that count?). Can you please just calm down? Just inhale, exhale...