God -- the control freak.

[bradybaker]

If God takes life, he's an Indian giver.

So tell me now why, you'll tell me never.

Who would wanna be such a control freak?

Well see what you wanna see. You should see it all.

If God controls the land and disease, keeps a watchful eye on me, if he's really so damn mighty, my problem is I can't see, well who would wanna be?

Who would wanna be such a control freak?

[evolo]

Good tune.

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Originally posted by evolo
Good tune.
...and as such, shouldn't this be in Entertainment? Now it seems you're the one at odds, brady-kun. P

Seriously though, it does make for quite the metaphysical icebreaker. Awaken-san, d-tamer, anyone more versed in the theology of the particular "God" in question want to give it a whirligig from the opposite end of the field?

Play nice, minna, remember: merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is just a game -- an MMORPG to be exact. :tongue:

The Ram. :content:

[bradybaker]

Hey, if they can quote the Bible, I can quote Modest Mouse.

Besides, it poses a serious philosophical question.

Who would wanna be such a control freak?

[Awaken4e1]

\"bradybaker\"]If God takes life, he's an Indian giver. [/b]

God only takes, to give something better.

So tell me now why, you'll tell me never. [/b]

‘I want the truth!’ ‘You can’t handle the truth!’

Who would wanna be such a control freak? [/b]

You would, cause man loves power.

Well see what you wanna see. You should see it all. [/b]

He does, He sees you.

If God controls the land and disease, keeps a watchful eye on me, if he's really so damn mighty, my problem is I can't see, well who would wanna be? [/b]

God has given man the perfect path unto perfection, but man wants to take short-cuts, and then bitches when man didn’t get any where. Get back to the ‘path’ and stay on it, and you will be fine.

Who would wanna be such a control freak? [/b]

You do.

[AirRick101]

I wouldn't be surprised if awakened increased his usage of curse word lingo to reach out to all the "unsaved" people here.

Ok, what exactly do you do to quote from several different statements in one post?

I wouldn't wanna be a control freak, but I sure wouldn't mind being in control all the way through.

[bradybaker]

Originally posted by Awaken4e1
God only takes, to give something better.
Unless he/she sends you to hell for not having straight teeth or some such triviality (<-- is that a word?).

And quit telling me what I want.

[Ynot]

Originally posted by bradybaker

Unless he/she sends you to hell for not having straight teeth or some such triviality (<-- is that a word?).

And quit telling me what I want.
God doesn't send you to hell
it's not some kind of revenge action

Man walks up to the gates, all by himself, and rings the bell

ah, shit
what am I doing in here
off to senseless banter, me thinks.....

[Universal Mind]

Originally posted by Ynot

God doesn't send you to hell
it's not some kind of revenge action

Man walks up to the gates, all by himself, and rings the bell



Nobody would do that, and no loving God would allow it. Allowing a person to burn forever would be infinitely worse than allowing a two year old to walk off the top of a building. "Oh, but free will!" Free will is not worth that. We are talking about eternal torture. No loving God, person, or dog would let that be part of the equation. People who give a happy damn don't let mentally ill people eat themselves, so why would a being more loving than any human allow a mentally ill person (which is what they would have to at least be to choose to be tortured forever) to burn FOREVER?

Christianity doesn't even say that people directly choose to burn forever. It says that people choose to do things like not worship God. If you don't believe in Hell, you are not "choosing" Hell by not doing that. If it is the case that you don't believe the Great Pumpkin wants you to chant his name 12 times a day, but he actually does and will let you be beaten with a billy club for eternity for not doing it, you are not "choosing" to be beaten by a billy club for eternity when you don't chant the Great Pumpkin's name 12 times a day.

[AirRick101]

Actually, verbatim speaking, Jesus admits that God is the one who throws man's soul into hell. Christians use the "man walks into hell and locks it from the inside" (first noted by CS Lewis) to sound more intellectually appealing. It does have a point, though. The heaven vs hell fork in the road depends on one's choice.

Many people are against Christianity particularly for that argument, but I am not convinced that is their reason for not believing. If that sort of sadist God really did exist, our world wouldn't be standing (floating) the way it is now. And people who use that excuse likely do not even care what they are arguing for anyway, because they already know what they believe, so what's the use of convincing?

But God is indeed portrayed as a very vengeful character, especially in the Old Testament. And mix that with the hymnal's popular "God is unchanging!" piece, it's futile to use the popular rebuttal "But it's the OLD Testament" He frequently ordered stonings for the littlest of crimes, and even advocated the taking of young women for men to wed after invading tribes and villages. Even the most dedicated Christian, David, reflects his feelings in requesting that God kill his enemies in the most vulgar way possible, as well as dashing the babies heads against the stones. I'm guess back then, people were incredibly racist, and religion was one way of supporting that.

[scorpifly]

I want to have control like that. In all honesty, who doesn't?

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Not me. :tongue: No, seriously, I wouldn't.

[Nirvana Starseed]

Calling god a control freak is like calling the devil an angel of salvation.

[kimpossible]

I think your god should be tried for crimes against humanity.

[AirRick101]

People tried, but God was nowhere to be found.

[Gwendolyn]

That is a good song, and often when listening to it, I wonder about the same thing. If indeed there is some person sitting way up there in the clouds, looking down at every individual at the same time, I don't understand why he/she would want to deal with our crap....And what God would send anyone to hell because they did something wrong. Wouldn't it be God's fault? If he exists, he made people who they are, why did he allow shit like this to happen?

[Universal Mind]

I too am infinitely loving, but you better not question me on that, if you know what's good for you. :mad:

[dream-scape]

Originally posted by Gwendolyn
If he exists, he made people who they are, why did he allow shit like this to happen?

Why do we allow shit to happen?

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by dream-scape


Why do we allow shit to happen?

Because we're neither omnipotent nor omniscient - kinda like your fictional deity.

[AirRick101]

Our fictional deity?? Excuuuuuse me! Spider-man may not be perfect, bue he's strong and gets to disasters on time!

[kimpossible]

Yeah, but he inadvertently let his uncle be killed. . .

[AirRick101]

I shoulda known you might have shot that down. You are too cynical sometimes.

I guess...I guess...kimpossible is the absolute perfect hero....

[Barbizzle]

haha. aw . i love spider man, but even heros have faults.

[kimpossible]

KP's pretty close. Last special she finally kissed Ron...

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by kimpossible
KP's pretty close. *Last special she finally kissed Ron...

Is that what makes her pretty close?

Anyways, I think he meant you, KP. ;)

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Ex Nine


Is that what makes her pretty close?


Yup. Her biggest flaw was not seeing the chemistry there. She finally did, and thereby over-came that limitation.

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Originally posted by kimpossible
KP's pretty close. *Last special she finally kissed Ron...
Ron's such a bishie. :D

[kimpossible]

I'm not into Anime, but the good ol' Wikipedia helped me out.

I wouldn't say Ron is quiet, brooding, or angsty. Well, ok, Angsty...

[OpheliaBlue]

I'm getting the TV kim and the DV kim confused

which kim is the hero

who's Ron

how come spiderman doesn't suck bug juice or animal juice or people juice for that matter HE'S PART SPIDER

oh I just thought of something really cool

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Originally posted by kimpossible
I'm not into Anime, but the good ol' Wikipedia helped me out.

I wouldn't say Ron is quiet, brooding, or angsty. *Well, ok, Angsty...
No silly, "bishie" means he's a cute/hot guy under sixteen -- at least that's the definition I was implying.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(OpheliaBlue)</div>which kim is the hero

who's Ron
[/b]

I was implying the TV version.

Originally posted by Blue@

how come spiderman doesn't suck bug juice or animal juice or people juice for that matter HE'S PART SPIDER


That's a damned good question. Of course - how do you know he doesn't? You know - when the animators aren't looking/drawing/sitting at their drafting table?

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oh I just thought of something really cool

That'd be a first, huh? 8) :P :P :P

[InTheMoment]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue

how come spiderman doesn't suck bug juice or animal juice or people juice for that matter HE'S PART SPIDER
It's rumored that Spider Women sucks man juice.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9780/spiderwoman1covershot8cb.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[OpheliaBlue]

that's hot!

sorry Kim, I was a bit tipsydoodle last night, don't even remember what the "cool thing" was

WHICH as a matter of fact would have been my 50th cool thing at least, not my first

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by InTheMoment
It's rumored that Spider Women sucks man juice.

Doesn't she release venom?

[InTheMoment]

Originally posted by Ex Nine


Doesn't she release venom?
I believe you're right!

She spits before she swallows...odd, but hot nonetheless! :ohyahbaby:

[Ynot]

I see the new forum is progressing well :lol:

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by Ynot
I see the new forum is progressing well :lol:
LMAO

I thought this was in senseless banter :P

[Ynot]

poe-taa-toe
poe-tar-toe

:whyme:

:lol:

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
I thought this was in senseless banter :P

Oh yeah! I hadn't noticed the change, either. ;)

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by AirRick101
People tried, but God was nowhere to be found.
He is found in you and me if you try to see.

[kimpossible]

Believe me that nothiing that gets in you is gonna get anywhere near me.

[irishcream]

God being a control freak? Who says we have to let ourselves be controlled?
If God is a control freak, it's only because we let him.
All my decisions are my own, based on my knowledge of right and wrong, not what's written in a 'guide book'.
Life's all about experience.
You can't experience life if some dude you've never even met scares you away!

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by irishcream
You can't experience life if some dude you've never even met scares you away!

So wise. You don't even have to believe in that in order for it to be true.

Recently I've been researching educational institutions and how they're financed, and I would've recommended that we work to shut down all Catholic schools everywhere, for teaching kids to ignore what Irishcream just said, but thank God that they are already on the decline (correlated with a drop in church attendance by parents, as well as their financial backing).

[Fetish]

I think God allows hell to help cause Free Will...... im not quite sure how to explian why I feel that way.

[Nirvana Starseed]

hello children.
i will speak in jar jar it seems apropriate here.


jar jar spider women jar
jar jar tv

jar juice jar.

:idea:
jar implying jar jar

defintion jar.

excited and interested jar jar jar.

[Nirvana Starseed]

Its not so much that god allows free will.

Its more god has and is free will.
Which makes you being in gods image.....free will. Or decision.

[kimpossible]

>> Which makes you being in gods image.....free will. Or decision

Thank you. You just proved you're all wrong.

"Everyone is created in god's image"
"makes you being in gods image [... your] decision"


I decided I'm not. Therefore I'm not. Therefore the first statement is wrong. And since "everyone" is used as is "all" - then every bible-thumper that used that statement is known show to be factually wrong.

So as soon as one is disproven, the whole thing crumbles like the house of cards that it is.

[dreamtamer007]

Originally posted by kimpossible
Believe me that nothiing that gets in you is gonna get anywhere near me.
Why do you insist in every post to attack me personally? Does a saved person bug you that much?

[kimpossible]

Oh come on. Climb off the whole "woah is me" bullshit. That's not even an attack - merely a statement of fact.

When I attack you personally, you'll know it. It's a lot clearer and meaner than that.

[Placebo]

When I attack you personally, you'll know it. It's a lot clearer and meaner than that.[/b]
Yeah, we've seen some trailers of that... fun stuff :D
I bet you love this unmoderated section, lol

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Originally posted by Placebo
I bet you love this unmoderated section, lol
Hell yes. How's this for freedom of speech?

D-tamer, you are one of the biggest, most arrogant assholes on the face of the planet. Awaken is one of the biggest, most arrogant assholes on the face of the planet; Staashiido's one of the biggest, most arrogant assholes on the planet. In turn, Kim's one of the biggest, most arrogant assholes on the planet. brady's one of the most arrogant assholes on the planet, -- hell, I'M one of the biggest, most arrogant assholes on the planet! We're all assholes in our own right. (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=34FSO801) It's called human nature, and as an ingrained behavior pattern -- and an MJ song -- it sucks.

So let's all just admit that, get it out of the way, and go about our business of chiding each other's beliefs, because goddamnit, it's what we do. :content:

You all suck. I'll see you later.

[/docthory/Truthbearer/jay dawg/whoever else I forgot]

[Placebo]

You forgot to call me an asshole.... I feel left out :cry:

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Awwww...I'm sorry, Placebo-san! You're a great big, audacious asshole too. :goodjob: :hug: :P

[Placebo]

Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka
Awwww...I'm sorry, Placebo-san! You're a great big, audacious asshole too. :goodjob: :hug: :P
That's better :P
Hey, that might look good in my sig

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Don'cha just love out of context stuff? :laughhard: :goodjob2:

[Placebo]

My favourite ever was :
Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
I don't care... eat me, I need those orgasms!

[scorpifly]

If I have free will, then can I give it up if I don't want it anymore?

Yes - ok then I have free will
No - then I never had it in the firs place

either way, case closed.

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by Placebo+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Placebo)</div>My favourite ever was :
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I don't care... eat me, I need those orgasms![/b]
haha yeah SOOO incredibly out of context :tongue:

[kimpossible]

Yeah, well, I'm a bigger asshole than Awaken. He couldn't even manage to get that right! [snicker]

I'm exactly the same here in this area as I was in the orig., Placebo. I just don't get vague threats from moderators three times a day...

My big mistake was I didn't pick fights, wait three pages until one of them responded negatively, then bitch to the moderators.

I'll go out of my way to play by those rules in the future, though! It's just good to know how it works.

[Ex Nine]

Hey, I'm not an asshole!


But then again i don't think any of you are all that bad.

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Originally posted by Ex Nine
Hey, I'm not an asshole!
Sure you are, silly! All human beings are. It's just our nature, as I explained -- speaking of which, everybody get the link OK? :P

[Ex Nine]

Alright. I guess if it's nature. ;)

[InTheMoment]

If it wasn't for us "assholes," the "shitheads" wouldn't be here. ;)~

[Nirvana Starseed]

German Vs American


German: Tis not allowed. Tiz language.
German: shutting your computer down, tes no gamez allowed!
Itz owes!!!!
American: yipiekaipeiepie ya fkei yipsie yai kia ya mother yipekay yikka yipsie ya fucker.
German: silly american. Shutting your computer down baby.
American: yispe kia ya. wanna stay alive stay with me.
German: Tez no surviving tis!!!!! shutting your computer down.
American: yipse tispie kia ya,
German: You disapoint me again american. tiz not allowed.
American: yipe kia yay, get the hell outa here.
German: Stay here, zour not going anywhere .Zez Americans not allowed.
German: get ze gunz. hes getting away!
American: yipkia yay mother kia yipse yay fucker

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Staashiido...that made no sense, it wasn't even funny or in any way true. O.o

I think you need some serious help, what with the sudden burst of evangelism and vanishing of humor sense. x.x

[Nirvana Starseed]

Put your dictionary away ramu. I know it wasn't funny to you.
It was my joke.

[kimpossible]

First time I've seen someone claim 'Joke' to be synonymous with 'Stupidity'.