Personality Disorders

[Aquanina]

What's your take on em?

[Seeker]

Some got em, some don't.

Personality disorders are like a lot of things. You must first admit you have one and then resolve that you will do something about it, i,e, either study and help yourself or get professional help.

Ignoring the problem or just talking about it will not make it go away.

[bradybaker]

Originally posted by Aquanina
What's your take on em?
You're gonna have to be a bit more specific.

[Howie]

I think personality disorders are often shunned or looked down upon. Why. I guess human nature. But speaking of nature think of this. The brain is an organ just as any other organ, like our heart or our liver. Granted it is much more complex. Which gives even more grounds to my point.
And my point is that why is it considered that you may be odd when you are born with a malfunction of the brain, yet if someone is born with an enlarged heart well, it is just an enlarged heart.
Psychiatrist for anxiety = freak
Doctor for enlarged heart = good call :shakehead2:

[Aquanina]

Originally posted by bradybaker

You're gonna have to be a bit more specific.

I think Howie pretty much got what I meant. About how alot of people think they aren't...real. That people should be able to control it...that they are just weak because of it. But they don't realize that it's a real medical condition. So some call you selfish, immature, an attention seeker...they just don't get it. And they never will.

And Seeker...I think some people (as a result of their personality disorder) simply don't care to try to get help. They've accepted their future for whatever it will be. Hopeless. And choose to give up...or to continue on. Hopeful.

[Howie]

This may be a sorry scenario but hey.
Look at it as a piece of cake. (in relation to a life) You have your entire life filled with negative thoughts, bad events and this molds you. This is the cake. Then if you begin to take a progress in getting help you can't fix 15, 20, 40 years in a year. This is the frosting.
So it takes resolve. But once the ball gets rolling it compounds exponentially.
There are always set backs. But that does not define who you are. You are experiencing a set back, you are not a setback. You are not depression. It is just an experience.

[Aquanina]

God damnit Jason.

Now I want some cake.

[Howie]

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9269/b111im.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b111im.jpg)


:kiss:

[Universal Mind]

Originally posted by Aquanina
What's your take on em?

A huge chunk of the population has at least one. I used to be a mental health worker, and I'm very interested in them. The most interesting ones are the DSM IV Cluster B disorders...

1. Antisocial Personality Disorder- The fairly recent, politically correct term for people who used to be labelled "sociopaths"
2. Narcissistic Personality Disorder- A very sick level of arrogance, except it is actually rationalized arrogance that exists for the purpose of helping the person deal with what deep down is, ironically, very low self esteem
3. Borderline Personality Disorder- Extreme and very rapid mood changes accompanied by identity confusion
4. Histrionic Personality Disorder- Hysterical emotionalism that results in an ongoing need for extreme attention

Something that is so fascinating about those disorders, which are interesting enough alone, is that they very often come together in various cominations. That is why they are all put into one cluster. It is very common for people who have at least one to have all four.

[R.Carter]

Originally posted by Universal Mind

EDIT:

1-a : Antisocial Narcissistic Personality Disorder- The fairly recent, politically correct term for people who used to be labelled \"sociopaths\" with a very sick level of arrogance.


Whew! Nice to know it's not my fault I'm such a dick.

[Seeker]

Originally posted by Aquanina+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aquanina)</div>And Seeker...I think some people (as a result of their personality disorder) simply don't care to try to get help. They've accepted their future for whatever it will be. Hopeless. And choose to give up...or to continue on. Hopeful.[/b]

I don't understand the defeatists. Why would anyone resign themselves to living the rest of their life like that. All change begins with the desire to change. Lack of desire to change is just unfathomable to me. It's like saying you are going to leave your hand lying on the hot stove eye because you have just resigned yourself to that fate.


[EDIT] more thoughts..

<!--QuoteBegin-Aquanina
And Seeker...I think some people (as a result of their personality disorder) simply don't care to try to get help.

This is a truly sad situation. However, if the person recognizes this about themselves then they are not too far gone and should force theirselves to get help. Probably professional help. Nina, if you know someone in this situation, please encourage them to seek help.

[Cassandra]

Well,I 've actually been suffering from bipolar disorder/manic depression.That means I have extreme mood swings.I 've been through a lot of "weird" stuff and yeah,sometimes I wonder if I am real,too. :shock:

[Aquanina]

Originally posted by Cassandra
Well,I 've actually been suffering from bipolar disorder/manic depression.That means I have extreme mood swings.I 've been through a lot of "weird" stuff and yeah,sometimes I wonder if I am real,too. :shock:

:) :hug:

[Cassandra]

Originally posted by Aquanina


:) :hug:

:D :hug:

[InTheMoment]

I like where this is going. :ohyahbaby:

[Aquanina]

pervert :P

[InTheMoment]

Originally posted by Aquanina
pervert :P
I've recently been promoted to PROvert. The order of advancement is as follows: prevert --> pervert ---> provert. ;)~

[Pensive Patrick]

Ah, In The Moment, you crash into conversations with such style and sophistication.

[Howie]

Originally posted by InTheMoment

I've recently been promoted to PROvert. The order of advancement is as follows: prevert --> pervert ---> provert. ;)~

Well there is a personality disorder that is considered an addiction to sex. Ha. What a laugh.
It must be the most predominant disorder out there.

[Aquanina]

[quote]

Well there is a personality disorder that is considered an addiction to sex. Ha. What a laugh.
It must be the most predominant disorder out there.

Haha I was totally going to say something about sexual addiction but decided to just call you a pervert instead. :D

[Howie]

Originally posted by Aquanina


Haha I was totally going to say something about sexual addiction but decided to just call you a pervert instead. :D

ITM is the perv not me! :eek:

[InTheMoment]

Wait a minute...Is this one of those intervention things? :P

[Aquanina]

[quote]

ITM is the perv not me!

oops I meant call *him* a pervert ;)

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Aquanina
What's your take on em?

Most personality manifestations reflect survival strategies that have come down to the present generation genetically. In the nature vs nurture debate, the side of nurture had benefited greatly by the falsification of data in some of the foundational 'studies' that had been published, but more recent studies indicate that the Apples are not falling very far from the Trees (that separated Twins retain a great degree of similarity even when 'nurtured' by families of greatly different traditions and temperaments).

And Old Civilization will tend to produce a stable and healthy Personality Type. Barbarian Cultures will revert to animal-like natures. If Brutality becomes a survival asset, then it will eventually breed a race of Brutes.

Many of the Personality Disorders we see today may originate in the inability of some Genetic Mixes to resolve into a satisfactory integration. What happens when a Strain of Civilization combines with a strain of Barbarism? This may result in an irreconcilable conflict of opposing and contradictory impulses.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Leo Volont


Most personality manifestations reflect survival strategies that have come down to the present generation genetically. *In the nature vs nurture debate, the side of nurture had benefited greatly by the falsification of data in some of the foundational 'studies' that had been published, but more recent studies indicate that the Apples are not falling very far from the Trees (that separated Twins retain a great degree of similarity even when 'nurtured' by families of greatly different traditions and temperaments).

And Old Civilization will tend to produce a stable and healthy Personality Type. *Barbarian Cultures will revert to animal-like natures. *If Brutality becomes a survival asset, then it will eventually breed a race of Brutes.

Many of the Personality Disorders we see today may originate in the inability of some Genetic Mixes to resolve into a satisfactory integration. *What happens when a Strain of Civilization combines with a strain of Barbarism? *This may result in an irreconcilable conflict of opposing and contradictory impulses.

An example of this. It is believed that many anxiety disorders are a result of the fight or flight survival instinct that we had once used much more to survive.

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by Aquanina
That people should be able to control it...that they are just weak because of it. But they don't realize that it's a real medical condition.
Yeah I really hate that. Everybody has SOME weakness, and will power is obviously not enough to 'fix it', otherwise there would be no disorders.

It takes alot of self awareness, work, maturity, guts, and god knows what else to overcome one, and even then, it will always be there somewhat, and will always need to be kept in check if one is to be able to function in society and be somewhat content.

[bradybaker]

It's normally the result of a chemical imbalance.

(unless you subscribe to the Tom Cruise school of psychology, then its the result of evil alien souls, and the only cure can only be had with a membership fee)

[Aquanina]

I appreciate your opinion on that Ophelia.

And true Brady, some are more so chemical imbalances...where as others are more a result of nature AND nuture.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Aquanina
I appreciate your opinion on that Ophelia.

And true Brady, some are more so chemical imbalances...where as others are more a result of nature AND nuture

nuture.?? nurture.
Did I catch the almighty grammar Nazi?

What do you people think of SSRI (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors) to combat these chemical imbalances?

[Aquanina]

Nurture. Sue me.

Don't SSRIs make you fat. I'd never take 'em.

[kichu]

Originally posted by Seeker

I don't understand the defeatists. Why would anyone resign themselves to living the rest of their life like that. All change begins with the desire to change. Lack of desire to change is just unfathomable to me. It's like saying you are going to leave your hand lying on the hot stove eye because you have just resigned yourself to that fate.

Hmmmm.........interesting. I just don't think you know what someone is going through or has been through unless you are that person. Everyone has a diffrent capacity when it comes to dealing with things. It's a pretty basic concept, isn't it?

[Howie]

Originally posted by Aquanina
Nurture. Sue me.

Don't SSRIs make you fat. I'd never take 'em.

Ahhh~ I would have to pay court costs. I will let it slide this time LucidNinaspelllingfina ;)

I think the drugs themselves don't often cause weight gain. OF coarse they state that it may to cover their ass.
But I believe it is do to the persons anxiety or whatever they are combating is lifted. When that is lifted the cause is often contentment. Which may lead to other vices. I am not sure.
I am speaking from my own experience. When I was not on the meds I had no appetite Do to my perplexed feelings.

[Burns]

Sometimes I feel like I'm obsessive-compulsive because, I'll leave for work, but I can't specifically remember if I unplugged the curling iron or not. So I have to turn the car around, go back into the house, unlock the door, go upstairs, and check to make sure its unplugged. It's maddening! And not one time have I EVER found it to still be plugged in. But if I just leave it, and don't check, I'm extrememly anxious and preoccupied all day long that the house is going to burn down, that it's worth it to just go back and check. I do this with locking the house door, too.

I understand this is a crazy behavior but I don't know how to stop it. Yup, so now you all know what a nut job I really am! :shakehead:

[Howie]

Originally posted by burns91
Sometimes I feel like I'm obsessive-compulsive because, I'll leave for work, but I can't specifically remember if I unplugged the curling iron or not. So I have to turn the car around, go back into the house, unlock the door, go upstairs, and check to make sure its unplugged. It's maddening! And not one time have I EVER found it to still be plugged in. But if I just leave it, and don't check, I'm extrememly anxious and preoccupied all day long that the house is going to burn down, that it's worth it to just go back and check. I do this with locking the house door, too.

I understand this is a crazy behavior but I don't know how to stop it. Yup, so now you all know what a nut job I really am! :shakehead:

I do not think you are a nut job burns! In our fast paced lifestyle these days I often wonder if that is some of the cause.
Aside from trying medication you could try relaxation methods. Meditation, yoga, etc.
One thing that helped me was to acknowledge a thought a just that a "thought". Recognize it for what it is. It is the brains reaction. But it may be a false reaction. So to be aware that the thought occurs and it is nothing more than a thought your brain will be able to put it into a better perspective.
Does that make any sense?

[OpheliaBlue]

lol burns, that does sound a bit obsessive compulsive

but it's just a label, so I wouldn't worry too much unless it got so bad that it was inhibiting you from enjoying life, or like, causing you to lose your job, lose friends etc

I used to not be able to walk down the hall without tapping my foot twice in each room that I passed (I finally stopped when I kept smashing my little toe and my mom made fun of me for it: "Why do you always have to go TAPPITY TAP in every single room you walk by Lisa?!?!?!")

[Burns]

[quote]

I do not think you are a nut job burns! In our fast paced lifestyle these days I often wonder if that is some of the cause.
Aside from trying medication you could try relaxation methods. Meditation, yoga, etc.
One thing that helped me was to acknowledge a thought a just that a "thought". Recognize it for what it is. It is the brains reaction. But it may be a false reaction. So to be aware that the thought occurs and it is nothing more than a thought your brain will be able to put it into a better perspective.
Does that make any sense?

Yes, that makes a great deal of sense. (And I'm glad you don't think I'm a wacko!) LOL. I do acknowledge that I'm being overly paranoid about these things, but I haven't quite gotten to the point that I can shut off the feeling altogether. I have tried meditation, but I always get so relaxed that I fall asleep! I've gotten some feedback about that and how to try not to put myself into a meditation stupor.

Anyway, thanks for the advice - I think my biggest problem is that I rush, so when I do unplug the curling iron, or lock the door, I don't remember doing it because I'm rushing - which causes me to double-guess myself later on. I need to just SLOW DOWN! :)

[Burns]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
lol burns, that does sound a bit obsessive compulsive

I used to not be able to walk down the hall without tapping my foot twice in each room that I passed (I finally stopped when I kept smashing my little toe and my mom made fun of me for it: "Why do you always have to go TAPPITY TAP in every single room you walk by Lisa?!?!?!")

Good! :D I'm glad I'm not the only one that has some weird personality quirks (except you got over yours and I haven't yet!). :lol:

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by burns91
Good! :D I'm glad I'm not the only one that has some weird personality quirks (except you got over yours and I haven't yet!). :lol:
well...I never really 'get over' my quirks, I replace them with new ones :P

[Aquanina]

This book seems interesting...

"Shadow Syndromes: The Mild Forms of Major Mental Disorders That Sabotage Us"

"Neuropsychiatry is now discovering that a great deal of what we thought was due to (poor) upbringing in fact is heavily influenced by the genetics, structure, and neurochemistry of the brain.**Every one of the troublesome personalities made famous by our popular press likely has its roots in an unsuspected brain difference: the Peter Pan syndrome, the Cinderella complex, the women who love too much, the men who can't love, the codependent--the list goes on.**All of these people are doubtless going to turn out to have brain differences that contribute to their Peter Pan-ness or their Cinderella-ness or their codependentness.**Of course, differences in the brain cut both ways: as studies of artists with manic-depressive illness have shown, a brain difference that handicaps us in one realm may also endow us with greater capacities in another.**Our purpose in writing this book is not to pathologize every nook and cranny of everyday life, but to offer help for those areas in which our brain differences do hurt more than help.**Until now there has been no biologically based help for the difficult personalities among us because no one has suspected that their problems might have biological facets.

That is the purpose of this book: to look again at the biology of everyday life one hundred years later--this time from the vantage point of twentieth-century neuropsychiatry.**Our question in this book is: when we--or someone we love--are behaving at our worst, or simply behaving irrationally, what role does biology play? And: how do genuine problems in life, problems like a difficult childhood or a parent who drinks, interact with our biology to create the character traits and flaws that are not just written into our characters but into our neurons as well?


In order to take a second look at normal "craziness," we can learn from the kinds of craziness that are not so normal.**When we speak of schizophrenia or severe manic-depression, there is no question in anyone's mind that the person is ill.**And it is easy enough for us to believe that these illnesses are biological in origin (though it was not so long ago that these illnesses, too, were blamed upon bad parents).

The confusion begins when one sees patients who do not fit the classic categories, but who nevertheless have very real difficulties in life.**Are these difficulties due entirely to upbringing and environment, or do they, too, have some basis in the brain's biology? Modern psychiatry has been struggling to make sense of these people for fifty years.**Doctors diagnose their patients according to the syndromes described in DSM-IV, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fourth Edition.**A syndrome is a set of behaviors that consistently appear together: a set of behaviors the patient, the doctor, or the patient's friends and family can observe and describe.**A syndrome is not, at this point, a physical marker like the positive result on a test for HIV antibodies that establishes a diagnosis of HIV-positive.**When a psychiatrist diagnoses the syndrome of panic disorder, for example, he cannot--yet--perform an MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) that tells him whether the patient does or does not qualify for the diagnosis (although we may be closest to such a test for this particular disorder).**Instead, he looks for symptoms: a pounding chest, rapid heartbeat, shortness of breath or hyperventilation, sweating or coldness and changes in temperature regulation, the fear that one is having a heart attack, sometimes a feeling that the person is going to pass out, sometimes a feeling that he or she is going to go crazy.**This is the set of symptoms that make up the syndrome.

The problem is, every patient is different--including every patient with the same diagnosis.**As a result, the number of syndromes recognized by practicing psychiatrists has leapt in the forty years since the first edition of the DSM appeared in 1952.**That volume described 60 categories of abnormal behavior.**DSM-II, published in 1968, more than doubled this number to 145 syndromes, and DSM-III raised the total to 230.**The DSM-IV, which appeared in 1994, lists 382 distinct diagnoses, plus an additional 28 floating, or unassigned, diagnoses--which brings us today to a total of 410 different possible diagnostic labels.**What the ever-increasing number of possible diagnoses means is that a person who comes into a psychiatrist's office complaining of being depressed, for example, could be categorized as belonging to one of four major categories--bipolar disorder, major depression, "other specific affective disorders," or "atypical affective disorder"--with several subcategories included within each of these main categories.**(A patient diagnosed as bipolar could then be further characterized as "mixed," "manic," or "depressed," for instance.) It is a complex business.

As time goes by, we find that the art of diagnosis grows ever more fragmented; seemingly sound diagnostic categories keep breaking down.**Emotional problems do not fit the "concrete blocks" of the DSM-I, -II, -III, or -IV; real people come into the office with bits of this and pieces of that.**A patient might show signs of panic disorder, signs of major depressive disorder, and signs of a narcissistic personality disorder all in the same package.**He or she may have parts of a whole array of syndromes, and yet not suffer from all of the symptoms of any one syndrome.**Or he may fit every aspect of a syndrome down to the smallest detail and yet be so mildly affected compared to other people suffering from that problem that even a good therapist might miss the diagnosis.**Finally, a patient may exhibit only one or two symptoms from a particular syndrome, a condition long known as a forme fruste in conventional medicine.**A patient with a forme fruste of Graves disease, for instance, might have the bulging eyes without the sweaty hands, rapid heartbeat, irritability, and weight loss that accompany a full-blown case of the illness.**A forme fruste is an incomplete expression of an illness, though the term is little used today.**We have chosen to replace it here with the phrase shadow syndrome because the meanings of the word shadow, both literal and metaphorical, capture the nature of a mild mental disorder.**In the literal sense, a shadow is an indistinct form of something all too vivid and real, just as a shadow syndrome is an indistinct and seldom obvious form of a severe disorder.**And metaphorical shadows cast a pall across a day that might otherwise be sunny and clear.**This is what shadow syndromes do in the realms of work and love: they cast a shadow."

Excerpted from Shadow Syndromes by John J. Ratey, M.D., and Catherine Johnson, Ph.D. Copyright © 1998 by John J. Ratey, M.D. and Catherine Johnson, Ph.D.

[Aquanina]

Oh yeah...and this is just for fun. Though it was quite accurate in "diagnosing" me. Feel free to post your results (or not lol) and thoughts about it. I got 90% Borderline and also scored sorta high on paranoid, schizo, and schizotypal lol.

http://similarminds.com/personality_disorder.html

...and here's a less formal one...but still seemingly accurate...

http://quizilla.com/users/rosiekins/quizze...0You%20Have%3F/ (http://quizilla.com/users/rosiekins/quizzes/Which%20Personality%20Disorder%20Do%20You%20Have%3 F/)

http://images.quizilla.com/1033888700_borderline.jpg

[InTheMoment]

Personality Disorder Test Results

Paranoid |||| 18%
Schizoid |||||||||| 38%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 58%
Antisocial |||||| 30%
Borderline |||||| 26%
Histrionic |||| 18%
Narcissistic |||||||||||||||| 70%
Avoidant || 10%
Dependent |||||| 26%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||| 14%

[OpheliaBlue]

mine:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1451/score0eq.jpg

well I knew about the last 2 and the narcissism, but not the schizotypal lol

[nesgirl119]

Paranoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||||| 74% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||||||| 54% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||||||| 66% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||||||| 54% 43%
Narcissistic || 10% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||||| 50% 39%
Dependent |||||||||||||| 54% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||||| 78% 40% [/b]

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Guess that is what you get not only from avoiding people for many years and being hurt by them, but also from being by myself all that time. Hehe...uh... :oops:
But I looove DVs. That is one good thing to be obsessive compulsive over, as well as LDing!! And paranoid over hackers would be surprisingly common here!!

[Neruo]

lol I am so much Not going to do that test :)

[dudesuperior]

Paranoid |||||||||||||||||| 74% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||||| 74% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||||| 46% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||||||||||| 82% 47%
Histrionic |||||| 30% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||||| 58% 41%
Avoidant |||| 14% 39%
Dependent |||| 14% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 42% 40%

Well, that made me feel very good about myself! :mrgreen:

[Vex Kitten]

Paranoid |||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Antisocial |||||||||||||||| 70%
Borderline |||||||||||||||| 70%
Histrionic |||||||||| 34%
Narcissistic |||||||||| 38%
Avoidant |||||||||||||||| 70%
Dependent |||||| 30%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||||| 74%


:shakehead2:

[Neruo]

Is everyone here crazy or is that test just a bit... exagerated.

[Burns]

Originally posted by Neruo
Is everyone here crazy or is that test just a bit... exagerated.

I vote for everyone here is crazy!! :lol: LOL

[Howie]

MY resposne said please call 1-800-help immediatly! :?

Ha ha JK!

Paranoid |||||||||| 34% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||| 66% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||||||| 86% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||||||| 54% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||| 46% 47%
Histrionic |||||| 26% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||||||| 70% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||||| 42% 39%
Dependent |||||| 30% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||||| 78% 40%

My wife's
Personality Disorder Test Results

Paranoid |||||| 26% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||| 62% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||| 62% 53%
Antisocial |||| 18% 47%
Borderline |||||| 22% 47%
Histrionic |||||| 26% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||| 38% 41%
Avoidant |||| 14% 39%
Dependent |||||| 22% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||| 54%

[Cassandra]

Paranoid 90%
Schizoid 82 %
Schizotypal 82%
Antisocial 50%
Borderline 90%
Histrionic 66%
Narcissistic 42%
Anoidant 72%
Dependent 50%
Obsessive-Compulsive 66%

Boy, I need therapy :lol:

[InTheMoment]

Originally posted by Cassandra

Boy, I need therapy :lol:
I'm fluent in massage therapy. :ohyahbaby:

[Burns]

Originally posted by InTheMoment

I'm fluent in massage therapy. :ohyahbaby:

IMT - glad to see your signature picture is working well again. It was freaking out there for awhile. I get a kick out of it everytime I see it - you've corrupted Sam Gamgee! :lol:

[Seeker]

Originally posted by InTheMoment
I like where this is going. :ohyahbaby:

yep, I figured you would be posting soon.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Neruo
Is everyone here crazy or is that test just a bit... exagerated.

I wouldn't think so, since it placed my personality perfectly. I really am that weird. :D

[kichu]

Originally posted by Neruo
Is everyone here crazy or is that test just a bit... exagerated.

I agree, a little ridiculous.

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by kichu


I agree, a little ridiculous.
same

hey nesgirl, that's my favorite avatar of yours so far

[Sortilegio]

hmm, lets see:
Personality Disorder Test Results

Paranoid |||| 14% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||| 78% 53%
Schizotypal |||||| 26% 53%
Antisocial |||||| 30% 47%
Borderline |||| 14% 47%
Histrionic || 10% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||| 42% 41%
Avoidant |||| 14% 39%
Dependent || 10% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||| 38% 40%

[Cyclic13]

Paranoid |||||||||||||||||| 74% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 82% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||| 66% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||||||||| 62% 47%
Borderline |||||||||| 38% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||||||| 58% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||| 46% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||||| 46% 39%
Dependent |||||||||| 34% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||| 58% 40%

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue

same

hey nesgirl, that's my favorite avatar of yours so far

Thanx
So are you into Danny Phantom, too?

[OpheliaBlue]

Originally posted by nesgirl119


Thanx
So are you into Danny Phantom, too?
oh I didn't know who he was, I just thought it made a great avatar

it's a cool animation style, like all moderny looking, plus the look on his face is hysterical, it's like "CHRIST what is that behind me?!?!?!?"

or

"HELP I'm trapped as nesgirl's avatar HELLLLLP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" :P

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue

oh I didn't know who he was, I just thought it made a great avatar

it's a cool animation style, like all moderny looking, plus the look on his face is hysterical, it's like "what is that behind me?!?!?!?"

or

"HELP I'm trapped as nesgirl's avatar HELLLLLP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" :P

Actually, he is about to get attacked in that scene, but LOL!! He thinks he's trapped as my avatar!! I think I will wear that!!

[Aquanina]

Um...yeah that's great but you guys think we can get back ON TOPIC here. Thanks. :D

[InTheMoment]

Originally posted by Aquanina
Um...yeah that's great but you guys think we can get back ON TOPIC here. Thanks. :D
Yah...weren't we talking about sex or something? :P

[Starlite]

Paranoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||| 74%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 54%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38%
Borderline |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Histrionic |||||||||||||| 58%
Narcissistic || 10%
Avoidant |||||||||||| 50%
Dependent |||||||||||||||||||| 82%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||| 54%


I was diagnosed by a doctor several years ago as having "borderline person. dis." I got a 2nd opinion and was told the same thing. I dont understand it and I dont think I ever will.
I read this book awhile back on BPD called I hate you dont leave me! (catchy title huh?)
what I do know is just b/c I have it doesnt mean I have to act crazy. I do a pretty good job of acting like a normal indiv. on the outside and sometimes i feel as though nobody really knows the real me b/c i have to wear so many different masks just to be perceived as "normal". Anyone else feel this way that has BPD?

[Aquanina]

Originally posted by Starlite
Anyone else feel this way that has BPD?

Pretty much all of us...yeah. I've read Borderline Personality Disorder: Demystified (great book for understanding it) and also Lost in the Mirror...which was decent.

[dreamaccount2000]

Originally posted by Aquanina
What's your take on em?

I have a friend who has D.I.D. I have seen it first hand. She lived with us for several months. It is not someone just out to get attention. It is a real condition brought on by childhood trauma..

[Pensive Patrick]

Paranoid |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||| 74%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 54%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38%
Borderline |||||||||||| 46%
Histrionic |||| 18%
Narcissistic |||||| 26%
Avoidant |||||||||||||||| 70%
Dependent |||||||||||| 42%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||||||| 74%

Yikes... I suppose deep down I knew all this though.

[ravenqueen]

I was a little scared to take this but hey they're not to bad I guess.

Paranoid |||||||||||||||| 66% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||| 54% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||| 50% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||||||||| 62% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||||||| 62% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||||||||| 66% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||| 46% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||||||||| 62% 39%
Dependent |||||||||||||| 54% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 50% 40%

or maybe they are :(

[aluminium]

*digs out old thread*

Originally posted by Aquanina
What's your take on em?

Personality Disorders - a very interesting subject.

A very popular opinion on psychology nowadays is "that it doesnt make sense",
"psychology is for people who don't want to accept that the universe is insane" etc..

Before i came to know the topic PDs i had a similar opinion.

But, the fascinating aspect of PDs is, that in my opinion some sort of "mechanics" or "basic principles" of the human mind get visible through personality disorders: PDs show that some cagorizable experience you make in childhood lead to totally unrational, seemingly unrelated, but also categorizable behaviors being developed in adulthood. Rationally e.g it doesnt make sense that when you get humiliated or misunderstood, mistreated as a child you develop the believe in psi phenomena (if this is actually true is another question), thinking that other people can read your mind, etc. - but the empirical view shows that there is a clear connection between these symptoms of a PD and the childhood experiences - so clear that it is possible to create this category of personality disorder (schizotypal PD).

I really like that topic. When you read about several PDs you really start to dig how they might feel, the way the think and what experiences they made. And when you really think about it, the seemingly unrelated symptoms and experiences actually make sense, and if its only to protect one to make such bad experiences again.

@Aquanina
One of the main symptoms of BPD is that you feel emptyness inside, especially in your stomach. or some some very deep hate/uglyness for your very self. If you dont feel that way, than your BPD might not be so severe.

After all, the only real symptom of having a PD is the psychological strain. if you dont have it, then you dont have a PD. AFAIK PDs are known to be chronic, you got the learn how to live with them. I actually think that having PDs can be benefical, too.

btw i would rate myself as quite schizotypal and narcisstic. Today i actually think that being shizotypal is better than not being it, even if it isn't always easy. Its crazy and painful but it also helps me to optimize my behaviour. btw 3% of the male population are schizotypal, 1% of the female (which is quite a significant difference). With BPD its the other way round.

The test posted is quite good, i took it already some time ago and it sparked my interested for PDs. another good one (just personality, without the disease, although quite cynic) is this one (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=4741219933576750506), i score as a "haughty intellectual" at it.

[Aquanina]

Originally posted by aluminium
@Aquanina
One of the main symptoms of BPD is that you feel emptyness inside, especially in your stomach. or some some very deep hate/uglyness for your very self. If you dont feel that way, than your BPD might not be so severe.

I appreciate your feedback on the subject...but trust me, I don't need someone explaining to me the symptoms of BPD ;) I've a few books on the subject and alot of information online. My main problem is finding a DBT therapist in my area (a DBT therapist is a psych who is trained in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, which is a type of altered Cognitive Behavioral Therapy designed specifically to treat borderlines.)

And I actually linked to two different personality tests, one more extensive then the other....just in case you didn't see the other one. They are both quite interesting though.

Cheers.

[Distant Clone]

Paranoid 58% 49%
Schizoid 90% 53%
Schizotypal 86% 53%
Antisocial 38% 47%
Borderline 26% 47%
Histrionic 26% 43%
Narcissistic 42% 41%
Avoidant 22% 39%
Dependent 10% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive 70% 40%

Based on the definitions, and when SCALE = {very low, mild, moderate, severe, extreme}, I'll rate how I think I should have. I don't really disagree except that the middle four and avoidant should have been lower.

Eccentric Personality Disorders
Paranoid: moderate
Schizoid: extreme
Schizotypal: extreme

Dramatic Personality Disorders
Antisocial: very low
Borderline: very low
Histrionic: very low
Narcissistic: very low

Anxious Personality Disorders
Avoidant: very low
Dependent: very low
Obsessive-Compulsive: severe

[aluminium]

Originally posted by Aquanina


I appreciate your feedback on the subject...but trust me, I don't need someone explaining to me the symptoms of BPD ;)

Yeah that was quite unpolite, right? Sorry - in fact i didn't want to adress you, but just talk about the subject in general.

Well, I know I have some serious problems, but meanwhile i know its possible to handle them. Some time ago i was seriously thinking about getting a treatment with neuroleptics, but now i am glad i didn't. No one would have prescribed them to me anyway. With a bit of thinking everything can be handled, and you can really solve your problems this way instead of just being distracted from them. I also might tend to overdramatize my problems sometimes - it's not that i am a complete idiot (being on this forum, i assume no one here is), i am getting my diploma in business administration soon, and getting along quite well.

I also read a lot about cognitive behavioral therapy recently (literature for therapists, while i was doing an intership in the administration of a psychiatric hospital), and the suggestions for schizotypal patients proposed were similar to the methods i developed for myself over the years. The suggestions for borderline and schizotypal patients are in some areas quite similar, although the diseases are quite different. Like: think before you talk, talk slowly, dont talk bad about yourself, don't touch others.. for the schizotypal it tends to be little more about body control, like: dont scratch yourself, try to move not too much..)

Luckily, personality diseases are still more a hobby than a problem for me.

[LunarMoon]

Paranoid |||||||||| 34% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||||||| 86% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 58% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||| 46% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||| 38% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||| 46% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||| 34% 39%
Dependent |||| 14% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||| 46% 40%