Elementalism Lesson 1: Rain magic

[Blulanou42]

Through meditation and lucid dreaming I took the next obvious step and began to practice sorcery. In all actuality we ALL practice magic every day, but we have made up new names for it.

There are several classes of magic users that still exist in the world.
I am not going to go through them though because I have yet to get my masters in anthro, hehe.

I am a Bard-Sorcerer. A Bard being a muscian, artist, writer, actor etc. whom uses their will, or willpower, or charisma to cast or perform acts of great talent and imagination. A Sorcerer is like a wizard, but a wizard relies on his Intelligence and perhaps less wisdom, a Sorcerer relies on his will or charisma and wisdom. The two mix quite well.

Anyway, I did not think I could cast, but my will is semi-irradic, I have to be in the right mood to perform certain great feats.

Enchantment and illusion are easier. Convicing ppl you are right is an art, acting, these are your allignments. But you have to be careful, lieing costs karma, and manipulating ppl for evil purposes means that your 'magic' will actually use you.

One day my personal power was incredibly high. I had just gotten home to the mountains from texas and felt great, I also had bud for one of the first times in a week, so I drove out into the mountains to almost 10,000 ft. I sat on top of a small mountain and watched the sky. I began to meditate.

Here you may ask, "Blu, what the fuck does this all have to do with lucid dreaming?" well, here it is.

I use the same technique I lucid dream with when I meditate. In fact, when performed properly, they are almost the same. One can go anywhere, do anything.

I listened. Sitting on my mountain I smoked and listend to the trees and slowly with the breeze imagined leaving behind me and I began to feel the needles, here the wind blowing over a billion needles! I meditate and move my body in and out and through them all. I sit in peace. I am silent for a half hour.

Ater this I began to write (I am a poet sometimes) and watch as dark clouds roll over from south park over back across the west side of Pikes Peak. They are dark yet small spring rain clouds.

It is time to meditate again.

I close my eys and ascend the Jhonnas, swept up by the storm now blowing all around the base of my small inbetween BLue Mtn, and watch the storm with my eyes closed. Here I dream I am in the clouds
that i am the storm
that i am nothing
the storm collects and is all around, all over and above me, heavy with rain.
this goes on for almost and hour, i never feel a drop of rain.

then at some precise moment I decide to open my eyes
the clouds went around me, they were pouring and thundering all around for miles, and somehow a small place I was in went untouched.

then I looked up, a triple r blazed brightly overhead, intersecting one another in a way that I didn't think was possible.

It is the most spectacular thing I have ever seen. I still don't believe it, but I wrote it down later, I was there, hehe. Lucidity is amazing.

So now the question is, what is real lucid dreaming? It can be crossed over and applied to the daytime if you have a strong enough will. The way a dream is handled is the same way that life is handled. I can see the fragility of the dream world, and slowly I am seeing the illusion of this one. It can be controlled the same way that one dreams. To achieve this, however, requires that one train the mind to not think, to un-try, to do the opposite of what intelligence suggests because, lets face it, none of us are wizards, we all have to use charisma to cast spells nowadays, and the same goes for the lucid dream.

Good lucidity = charisma

and a bit of wisdom never hurts.

I want to say that I do not know how magic works, but I have cast many spells, seens many, studied many different types of ethereal wisdom and through my lucid dreaming I am definitly able to utilize certain spells.

But the more extreme spells, like neutralizing weather, take a different eneergy then everyday magic. It takes crazy neutrality (you cannot think about splitting clouds or try to force things, god seems to laugh at sorcerers for that) and incredible will. I would suggest that I was only able to perform such a feat by luck of my happiness at the time and the pure focus I had just attained form intensly long meditation sessions weeks prior along with fasting and vision questing (dallas style).

If you try to 'perform' magic karma will not let you, you have to let it happen. I even like to assume it's happy coincidence, but I can cast certain spells consecutively, so I am conviced that such feats can be learned.

All the same. I sometimes recall that place and time in dreams. It is one of the best feeling I have ever experienced. I think meditation lucidity and magic are all madatory steps in a balenced life, wouldn't have it any other way.

By casting spells in your lucid world, one can meditate, go back, find those lucid memories and utilize them. Elemental magic, to be precise, works both ways in both worlds. Lucidity is sooooo important to the diviners. It is a clairity of mind. It is the calm from which power and energy can be drawn and manifested physically in the material world.

Happy dreaming. Hope I turn a few sorcerers, hehe.

If any of you have any moral obligations about what I just said, my background is christian and Taoist...eventually we learn that all energy is the same, as are all justifications.

for further information read Carlos Casteneda...or the bible...or any religion, they all have spells somewhere. Send me mail if anyone needs help with class idetification (self) or ethos of instruction (religion, practice). I have learned spells from all religions and will openly discuss all beliefs. peace[/i]

[Aneas]

I began studying the lessons of Carlos 26 years ago at age 12. I obtained my first book on witchcraft at age 8 (I still have it). Stood in many circles, practiced with many branches, walked many paths. Final conclusion: All the same illusion, just manipulation of energy. Actually it is more of a manipulation of Self since we ARE energy.

[nerve]

hmm...very interesting..

[zwishenzug]

Fuck magic. Magic is only in dreams. Science is taking the place of magic in terms of making the impossible possible. Not that real world magic has ever made the impossible possible, it is just a word to describe the illusion of impossibility or something inunderstandable.

[nerve]

wow....that was long. can't believe i red the whole thing.

i'm not voting, because i don't fully believe in magic. ....you should have made one for in-between.

[Blulanou42]

there is no difference

reality is magic.

your just so used to the way things are, there was a lot of conjuration for us to have the modern marvels we do today. cities of necrospells. shiver.

[Serinanth]

you havent been keeping up with science have you....

They are stumped...

Quantum mechanics is kicking sciences ass...

They still do not understand particle pair transmission

They still do not understand how in vaccum matter materlises and dematerializes

Perception ALTERS quantum desisions...

Reality is based on the perception of it...

We do not exist due to reality, reality exists because of us.

Magics real, once you can get over the hurdle of opening your eyes, and actually trying to learn about it and experiment with it instead of just laughing at it and hiding behind flawed science...

Dont get me wrong I am all for science, I blend it with my spirituality and it works... quite well =) The two work in conjunction with the other, they are one and the same its as Blulanou says... its a matter of Will, and science has already PROVEN that our will changes the events occuring in the quantum world... which then relates to the normal sized world.

Im a Techno Sorcerer myself, I can make or break computers I know a good deal about them but I dont have any degrees and most of the time I mess with it untill it works =) , same with mechanical things.
Im also good field projection Ki, A friend and I (sober!) were parcticing field manipulation, making an enclosed ball in your hands, I tried one handed, its harder, because you have to enclose the top an make the field bend just right, my friend watched and commented describing everything I was doing, he is basically blind without his glasses but he can see energy an resonance without problem. We decided to make a large ball, using both of us, I could feel the thing take on mass it was insane, I then decided to kick it up a notch and dumped a lot of energy into it trying to make it more stable, he siad whoa dude, ease down your going to knock me over... I didnt say a word to him I didnt make a move, but he could see and feel the energy just as I could, although I have a hard time seeing it, I can feel it though...

Rant rant rant... anywhoo

Magics real, get over it and study it.

and yeah it realates to lucid dreaming very much, lucidity gives us a chance to let go, once we can totaly accomplish that here... you will be able to jump 20 ft and you will be able to lift cars...

[nerve]

:shock: eh, whatever you say Seri....

[wasup]

What I was thinking.

[nerve]

i wasn't being sarcastic.

[wasup]

Oh, I was... in some cases I think magic is real, I might have had some small magic sometimes. I think magic though would take years to obtain or something and much meditation and all of that stuff. I think most/some magic is coincedences or drugs. Like for me one time when I was drinking out of a water fountain near a vending machine, I was going to press the button on the vending machine when I was done drinking. I fully expected the drink to come out and really wanted it to and it did. More coincedence though... who knows....

I don't beleive in magic like fireballs out of your hand or flying though.


Also, magic may be mistaken for many things now a days. Like there is this one person who survived in a container full of ice for like 30 minutes or more. All he did was do yoga and breathing excersies.

Whatever, c ya.

[nerve]

hmm...i believe in pregognitive dreams, something different but i believe in them...considering i've had a couple yes.

[wasup]

Ya, I forgot to say that I somewhat beleive in astral projection and precognitive dreams too (and obviously lucid dreaming).

[liquid]

What is a precognative AND astral projection dream??? Please, im very curious.

[nerve]

a precognitive dream is a dream where you basically "see the future"
pre = before,
cog = know


pre cog nise = know before
(re = again)
re cog nise = know agian

get it now?

moving on...

Astral Projection (Out of Body Experiance)
where you..leave your body in an discorporate form..

[Serinanth]

Yeah yeah laugh =)
Its insane but hey, I cannot deny what I have experienced.

[wasup]

:roll: 8) 8)

[Serinanth]

Blulanou... wherever you are, you need to get yourself to Eugene Oregon, and go to Crater Lake. YOU MUST go there... Its a nexus and a strong one, Earth, Air, Fire, Water, all of them balanced and incredibly strong,


The lake was formed after the collapse of an ancient volcano, posthumously named Mount Mazama. This volcano violently erupted approximately 7,700 years ago. That eruption was 42 times as powerful as the 1980 eruption of Mt. St. Helens. The basin or caldera was formed after the top 5,000 feet of the volcano collapsed. Subsequent lava flows sealed the bottom, allowing the caldera to fill with approximately 4.6 trillion gallons of water from rainfall and snow melt, to create the seventh deepest lake in the world at 1,932 feet.

Take the boat tour, its like 30 bux but its worth it, get there early take the tour get off on the island and spend the day...

Firstly its called Wizard Island. Its a cindercone volcano..., there are actually stories from the tribes that lived near there about braves going down into the caldara when it was dry.

Well anyways, the water is pure snow and rain, PURE! well aside from the pollutants from the rain.. but its one of the purest natural sources of fresh water in the world...

You have not seen the color Blue untill you have seen this lake...and not just one color of blue... All the shades, its absolutely incredible.

So yeah... Go there, hike up wizard island and sit in the bottom of the crater.

I think even the most hardcore Scientist if placed there and told to just sit and listen, would say, there is something about the place... It remembers what It once was.


http://www.crater.lake.national-park.com/cratw.jpg

[wasup]

Sounds sick...

[Serinanth]

more like absolutely mind blowing amazing :P

[wasup]

Ok then. :roll:

[Second Attention]

Sounds like a beautiful place, Seri. I'll have to add it to my list of "Goddamn these places are beautiful so I need to see them some day before I die". It's rough though, that list is so fucking long already.

As for magic, blu and seri, you guys are right. There is no difference between magic and reality, it's all just perception. Hell, if I was dumb and wanted to believe that my clothes got cleaned by tiny magic little men that live in detergent and swam around in the water of my washing machine and scrubbed away at the clothes while the machine was going, I could. So, if I happen to wish to believe that all of reality is just as magic as the things described as "magic" in stories and legends, then I can. So... I'm magic, your magic, he's magic, she's magic, my mom's magic, so is yours and so is that crazy old man holding up the sign that says "Sinners repent, the end is nigh". Whatever...

Monkeys...

[nerve]

Hell, if I was dumb and wanted to believe that my clothes got cleaned by tiny magic little men that live in detergent and swam around in the water of my washing machine and scrubbed away at the clothes while the machine was going, I could. [/b]

:shock: dude...they are real...along with the little gnomes in the microwave that cook your food... :shock:

[wasup]

Hahaha... My mom isn't the "sharpest tool in the shed" and my dad sometimes makes fun of her for that. One time I asked her how something works (a light bulb?) and she told me that there is a little person in the glass ball that rides a bike all day and powers the light bulb....

Just today I told my teacher that tvs work by little midgets , yes little midgets who paint big pictures relly really fast and flash them on the screen.

REALLLLL!

[Serinanth]

Thats an interesting analogy, They do exist they go under the aliase of electrons :D

Dont forget the little guy in the fridge that turns the light on and off, I seen him once hiding behind teh b33rz

Acutally yeah, life itself is magic...

You ever on a late october early november evening go to the beach on the east coast.. well the northeast, particularly the south shore of long islands barrier island, you will see some magic...

The water itself glows a dim green, and if you splash through it trails of fire follow in your wake, the sand also glows green when you kick it up.

I know they are called phytoplankton and it is their bioluminecence that is causing the glow, but experiencing that on a clear night with a crecent moon hanging in the sky makes it no less magical.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Its peanut butter jelly time peanut butter jelly time
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

:cheers:

[nerve]

:shock: you are insane....

[Curios]

Im not with old school wicth-craft but energy can be used wisely. Light and energy are infinate.

[Serinanth]

The ahahah was the moment I found the dancing bannana, somone mad a flash movie of the bananna and a song called peanut butter jelly time... look it up hehe its funny

Experiencing that night had nothing to do with old school witchcraft just the miracle that is our world.

[Seeker]

Reality is in the eye of the beholder. Each one of us creates his own little reality. And in some way, reality is destroyed when he dies, at least part of it.
If you believe in magic, it is a part of your reality. If you do not, then it is not a part of yours.
For many years, I believed in a God that could change things, but I felt that god could only function at the quantum level. Not very powerful huh? But that was my reality.

My personal reality does not have magic, but instead untapped potential that is present in the human conciousness.

[Serinanth]

actually =) very powerful, I think.
The world we see is based off that quantum world.

[Seeker]

This is true to a point, but I thought he could only affect things that have not yet been decided. You know, the whole argument about the cosmos splitting at a quantum juncture.
I really like to wierd people out by letting them know that according to quantum theory, they do not fully exist 1/2 of the time.
Maybe on a future lucid aventure I will play around with quarks some. I wonder what it would be like to be a strange or charmed quark, or maybe a Higgs particle.....

[Serinanth]

*dances around* yay somone else that knows a little about quantum theory! :cheers: :banana: :thumbup:

[Seeker]

Yeh, I like quantum theory. :lol: It is amazing that something so complex and beautiful came about when a gap was detected in light emissions!

Hats off to you buddy. Most people think I am a total idiot when I start talking about two super-imposed cats existing in a box!

[nerve]

hey, i'm really interested in it too! :-P

[Seeker]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
hey, i'm really interested in it too! *:-P

Sounds like a good idea for a poll! I wonder if all LD's are predisposed toward quantum theory :)

[Second Attention]

Quantum theory is some good stuff...

[Serinanth]

I got the same thing at work they taunted the hell out of me with questions like... well the cats gotta poop it would eventually fill up the box and die anyways, what if the cat knocks over the poison on its own,... hehe oh well =)

"I anyone ever tells you that they understand quantum physics they are lying"

I forgot who said that... some scientist



"Oh janitor?

"whats up scientist"

Half Baked...

[Blulanou42]

I just wanna thank all you guys for reading my post and taking it seriously. Not many people are as open as those who post here.

I like what you guys are saying about quantum mechanics, just another interpretation of magic or science or even tribalism. I believe that mankind has known the same things for thousands of years, we never discover anything really, we just find new ways to describe reality.

I'm gonna post some more stuff I've been doing soon after I get off of vacation.

Hey, I asked my girlfriend about going to crator lake with me (I've always dreamed about it oddly enough, saw a special on it as a kid sick at home one day) and she said we should go. I'll be meditating on a rock somewheres maybe this summer or the next, hehehe.

I live in Lake George Colorado, on the back of Pikes Peak, another uber spiritual place. I live at 9,500 ft and surrounded by forest, my meditation soars here, I can't understand it. Me and my friends are devising theories about the mountain's radioactivity, or maybe NORAD has just fucked us all up somehow.

anyway, ty again, love the posts. Magic = reality.

Oh, and we are necromancers here in the states. Most of the wise on the outside sight us as death magic users or "black magicians" as Don Juan put it. I'd say our medical and synthetics fields especially partake in gruesome acts of death ritual, I plan to leave this country because I so harshly disagree with their allignment to the synthetic application of death, both animal and human (if there is a difference). yea for bards! yea for egineers (sorta).

[Second Attention]

Guiness World Records Book of 2003 has one of the most horrible things I've ever read in it. There was a woman that died in 1951, she had cancer. She had a rare cancer, because she lakced a certain chromosome in her body. Result: Cancer cells that self-replicate indefinitely. Her cells still exist today, in laboratoies all over the world. They sit there and replicate themselves over and over again. The worst kind of necromancy. Death on a goddamn petri dish. Her cells will NEVER die, unless we kill them, but scientists find them "far too interesting" to destroy. Cloning is illegal in the US, but we still have that woman's cells. What's the difference? What if her soul has been stuck in limbo because we won't let her die. I think... that is one of the worst most evil and horrible things I've ever heard. We keep the cancer alive. We propagate it.

[Serinanth]

*shivers*

[Timotheus]

Guiness World Records Book of 2003 has one of the most horrible things I've ever read in it. There was a woman that died in 1951, she had cancer. She had a rare cancer, because she lakced a certain chromosome in her body. Result: Cancer cells that self-replicate indefinitely. Her cells still exist today, in laboratoies all over the world. They sit there and replicate themselves over and over again. The worst kind of necromancy. Death on a goddamn petri dish. Her cells will NEVER die, unless we kill them, but scientists find them \"far too interesting\" to destroy. Cloning is illegal in the US, but we still have that woman's cells. What's the difference? What if her soul has been stuck in limbo because we won't let her die. I think... that is one of the worst most evil and horrible things I've ever heard. We keep the cancer alive. We propagate it.[/b]

I know these cells quite well, as I have already worked with them (and will probably do so again and again, in the future). They are called HeLa cells, because the woman's name was Henrietta Lacks, and yes, these cells are actually derived from the cervical cancer that killed her. By the way, all cancer cells will grow and divide infinitely if you let and feed them.

I don't see any problem at all in working with such cells. They are strongly altered by the cancer process and cannot give rise to a human embyo (so far to your cloning). They are completely harmless for me because they would be immediately rejected by my immune system if I would become "infected" by them. They make an uniform layer of cancer cells in a petri dish and don't have any nervous system which can suffer from pain or emotions (in contrast to a guinea pig). They are no smarter than the yeast cells that you use for baking bread. And they have been a great tool in the past to study the properties of cancer.

Sorry, I know that this does not belong to this forum, but I had to reply to that post.

[Second Attention]

Oh... let me tell you... I feel so much better.

Dude... I don't care how safe or whatever it is, or how "helpful" it has been. I still think it's fucking creepy.

[Timotheus]

Originally posted by Second Attention
Oh... let me tell you... I feel so much better.

Dude... I don't care how safe or whatever it is, or how \"helpful\" it has been. I still think it's fucking creepy.

People have been always afraid from what they don't know ...

If you happen to be near my lab one day, you can come to visit HeLa :wink:

[Second Attention]

Ok... let me re-word that... that goes far against my morals(what little there are of them). I think it is WRONG! I mean... honestly... what if there was some sort spiritual ramifications that we didn't understand happening to this supposed dead woman, simply because we won't let her die. I don't know, I don't care. I think it's wrong, and I would never want to mess with it, be within a hundred fucking miles of it, or anything. I'm not afraid of it, there are just certain things I don't want to be associated with because I think they are WAYYYY fucked up. Like... say rape, and child pornography(and the use of a dead woman's cells). I don't want be anywhere NEAR any of that shit either. They are morally wrong to me. I mean if you were some sick fuck, I'm sure you could morally justify those kind of things to yourself, too(ie, "those kids were going to end up getting fucked some day any ways"), but there are just certain things that are wrong, becuase they are wrong, because they are wrong. Whatever... I know you may not think it's a big deal, and it may not be to you, but it is to me. It's just another weird ass thing that I would never have thought existed.

[Timotheus]

Okay. I can well accept the fact that you have morals that are way different from those of me and other people. I could discuss for AGES with you about the (not-existing) reason and the logics behind those morals, but I don't think it's appropriate.

[Blulanou42]

Now I am going to tell a story:

In a relm far far from here, in one of the world's most amazing social experiments, and online comunity was created to be another world that existed somewhere not too far from the hearts of humanity...

There, a gathering of Clergy formed after some devistated event, no one knew, but the world had been made new...and now they were there.

They listened to thosse of them who became strong, became amazing and then they encountered more amazing entities. It turned out that whatever they practiced all throughout their lives turned into something incredible for those whom practiced long into the night, searching for their ultimate wisdom, fighting for their ultimate aid, searching for the ultimate potion. And of these spirits came around that were biased to powers, preditors of humans were sometimes other humans, even humanoids.

The strong Deities ar amounts of people, become groups of powers working together worshiping the way of life they had similar, they ate similar plants, they practiced silmilar ritual, they hunt certain ways, they develope social characterisics, magic, prayer, song, technology, and each in their own style.

After thousands of years of turmoil amoung the races, certain groups came out on top, cultivated more food, held more land, worked together more uniformly, and some were killers of man, and some were killers of good, and some were killers of evil...and God never knew the differece.

Certain humanoids got powerful enough that they transcended early, and thust became lower deities, became mythical gods, titans of the land, wizard light lords of the planes of reality, those who touched nature and caused it no harm, those who sang and their worlds danced, those who...

who...found their means of magic through fighting humanoids, even ingesting them, it affoarded them much, but frivolously so. Some developed ways of cannibalism, and some cultivated their food in mass quatities, bosses holding food from the peasents mouths, food that was free to any Druid or traveler or adnventurer. The peasents were cared into working by the death-magi, churning wips on their own people and raising powerful Warriors, Fighters, Engineers held their swords, and necromancers blessed their tampered blades, boiled their chemically charged tonics of rage and fear...fear.

To battle, to save, to heal in the wars, the [b][i]<span style="color:indigo">Special thanks to the beatiful world of Gemstone III, the world I metioned in the very begining. Use it to compare your life and thank god that you weren\'t 9 and playing a clerics in that game.

[Blulanou42]

i am afraid that some bards meet this fate as well. lucid dreaming is not a walk in the park, you have to be supple, your thoughts must bends and break without actually breaking, like water, like fluidity of energy -not like this illusion world- so you have to relaxe, do a lot of meditation, and find your true self, then leave it behind, then come back to it. Only then can one have a clear thought, not bombarded by the songs of society, by the worries of ethos, by the silly streams of humanities manifestations, these must be conquered, and that is no easy task.

i hope everyone becomes lucid...i hope they love the world and not greed, or desire, or false ethics. video games: virtual lucidity, live one of your reicarnations in a month! Witness many. You are them now, too. For we are all, afterall, of this earth.

:happyme: <---that\'s everyone[/

[Serinanth]

Granted we can learn from those cells, but that dosent make it any less creepy, you can say that the cells are so altered and such but they derived from a living breathing being with a spirit, and keeping them alive is just... weird... I duno its just creepy man!

[Second Attention]

Thank you Serinanth, glad someone agrees...

::shakes hand::

...shit's goddamn creepy...

[Seeker]

As long as we are talking about cancer....

http://www.students.ipfw.edu/~barrjp01/cancer.html

Just a joke! :lol:
Don't take this seriously!

[Serinanth]

no good man, dead link

[Seeker]

Bummer, it was live at lunch time today!

[Ginko]

Back to the subject.
I belive in magic and sorcery and that god allows these things to happen for a reason.


Every 1 whos religouse here do this. :thumbdown: :thumbup:



:thumbup:

[nerve]

http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/f/finger.gif

[Blulanou42]

:goodjob2: :goodjob:

I believe, but the ideal that religion can be institutionalized is wrong.

jesus did not call himself a christian
buddha was not a buddhist

what I'm saying is that I believe in all the religions, but i will never practice any one single thing, there's just no reason to

I am:

Christian (cause I grew up that way:)
Taoist (what i found in college)

and i practice magic, but i am not like typical practicioners

i understand the concept of the 'godess'
tao translates to 'peach' the concept is that the universe is conprised of two components, yet i am not a duelist, these two components are:

everything and nothing, god lies is a gigantic infinite vagina of nothingness,

the eternal valley of fertility i draw my magic from here (the magic as most ppl would term it) i am more a druid, yet i do not judge technology

but i also know all religions grow out of themselves

most christians forget that they are rooted deeply in the judaic and islamic traditions, yet we insist that because we each have different names 4 god, that GOD (the alpha and omega) is actually a different person cause the other culture said it funny

i also would like to take this oppertunity to pick on atheists:

if you say you believe in nothing, or the anti-god, you are lieing.
god is more then what we each name god as. if you live, and have a 'way' you believe or live your life, for instance, if you have a job, you worship that job. each one of our lives is constant omage to our own god essentially god turns out to be our own egos, our perceptions of the way, which is nameless because it is infinite and eternal. we all worship a god, even if some of us are in denial. hehe.

so i say this: i believe in god, and i believe that god rests in the eternal nothing. for every action, there is an equal and opposite face of god, even if we are all unable to percieve it

so, in summary, cause most won't understand that, here's what my religion would be if this was dnd (which it is, but whatever)

Bard druid engineer

i sing songs, my spells are mostly spoken, acted, sang, written, performed, but i can also get all arcane on yer ass!

peace though, u want good karma, no manipulation prz

the way knows, you don't, but you still have to try to follow as best as you can

[Lucius]

It seems like we are going Religion and "God" again...well like I said before I do belief In God but I choose to refer to IT as "The Cosmos" or simply "Everything", God is not the father,God is not actually a godess,God is everything,The cosmos is the earth,the cosmos is the air,the cosmos is everything..

It is thanks to the cosmos that we exist, we are souls born from its eternal life force that we and all living beings are formed of,and we are all meaned to one day return to it,remerge,enlightment,whatever you wish to call it.

But im going of-topic,ok,magic.
Magic..I think magic is possible to a certain level,I dont think its really possible for like our pshycial bodies to trow fireballs or make lightning strike..with our astral bodies thats a diffirent case of course,but I gotta go..mabey Ill talk some more lately..

[DAL9000]

...Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic...

On a lighter note, you kinda scare me with all this magic talk... reminds me of my ex who saw fairies in the sewers ^^;; She's an erm, "vampire" now... ( ^^;; )^2

[Blulanou42]

OMFG!
I had this girlfriend once who was a diviner, then I found out she also thought she was a VAMPIRE! lol, that bitch just turned on me, middle of normal conversation, we never fought or anything like that, and she just BIT me!!! she bit me so hard, on my left shoulder, left a mark for a month and a year later I'm still a bit scarred.

Don't worry man, I am not into conjuration or anything

I'm a Shaman Bard, I mainly cast charms and enchantments
but cause my dad r a hcr ranger, i got a bit of drood in me, so i can occasionally cast crazy elemental stuff, but it's all charisma based or drug induced sometimes, depends. I could talk more about intense spells.

I am best at divination really, empathy, I can see people's lives sometimes. I've had some meditations where I've managed to see years in hours, lifetimes in half a day...I'm crazy like that, but I cannot denigh the visions. most ppl trip stupid stuff, i can LUCID meditate, LUCID trip

and slowly i live lucidly

[Ginko]

Originally posted by Blulanou42
OMFG!
I had this girlfriend once who was a diviner, then I found out she also thought she was a VAMPIRE! lol, that bitch just turned on me, middle of normal conversation, we never fought or anything like that, and she just BIT me!!! she bit me so hard, on my left shoulder, left a mark for a month and a year later I'm still a bit scarred.



Thats 2 funney. ROLMAO :rolllaugh:

[Serinanth]

I love messing with the hardcore vamps =)
I scare them kuz I look so normal :evil:

[Blulanou42]

hhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

i got a good nive girl now who plays rpgs with me and talks liberal ecology and wants to be a k-5 music teacher...thank god, i'm soo happy, very much in love and trying to forget vampire grl forever, lol

nice to see most believe in magic still
i see it all the time

why is the american government full of necros?
i want to have a hand in changing that