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icuurd12b42
09-19-2006, 07:10 AM
...how would you know you were dreaming?


I have this problem where I am convinced the dream is real life. When I start to doubt, the dream turns on me or my DCs mind f_ck me into thinking it is real. I did not have one of these in a while. This type of dream plagued my existence a while back. I had one a few days ago.

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=352342 (http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=34521&view=findpost&p=352342)

I am afraid this type of dream may come back.

Has anyone experience this type of dream and found a way to get rid of them?

Bonsay
09-19-2006, 08:13 AM
Probably RCs could help, or you could start not trusting people, but that would be bad-ish for the waking life. :o

Chaos Psyche
09-19-2006, 06:20 PM
Probably RCs could help, or you could start not trusting people, but that would be bad-ish for the waking life. :o
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Happens to me quit a bit.

icuurd12b42
09-19-2006, 11:01 PM
Probably RCs could help, or you could start not trusting people, but that would be bad-ish for the waking life. :o
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I don't know, like I said, I was an entirely different entity in the dream, with no knowledge of my true self. All my real life experience was lost (Including all I have trained and all my knowledge), only the dream experience existed as life experience of that entity. When the dream ended, I was that entity for a period of time, the one afraid of getting nullified, getting nullified.

It’s like if you were a black belt named john working for the government in real life and in the dream you are steve, a musician working gigs in bars. As steve, you have only access to steve’s talents and have no clue you are john who can kick ass. You know?


Happens to me quit a bit.
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It sucks.

I guess I am looking for a way to conserve my true identity and knowledge from waking to dream so I don’t forget who I am so I don’t become someone else so I can use the techniques my true self is trained for and aware of.

Any ideas?

Rav1
09-20-2006, 08:47 AM
So what's the problem. Now you got two personalities, or rather your ego has been split in a way...
You can experience the two life at one time. Difficult? A bit of scary? But uncommon.

That is the way I see it, who knows exactly, we can only speculate.

icuurd12b42
09-20-2006, 11:26 PM
Well, I don't like the sound of that! Though dreaming as beeing someone else could be interesting, the phycological implication is scary.

WaaayOutThere
09-21-2006, 02:30 PM
That is interesting to be so totally into a dream that you don't know your own identity. I can't say I've experienced that, maybe. But I have had lucid dreams so real that I could use all my senses, and it was very convincing. However, even in my lucid dreams, there is something 'unreal' in the settings. The backgrounds generally look like scenes from 'Contact'. That's my best clue to knowing I'm in a dream.
I think in your sitaution the best thing is to stay calm and just go with it. Don't worry too much, and keep looking around at everything, you never know what you'll find.

icuurd12b42
09-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Who knows how entities are created in a dream….

If each individual is a free thinking intelligent entity as I am IRL then, in the dream, all characters would have to have their own memory, separate from others. If it’s all in my head then this implies some sort of memory fragmentation where each DC has access to it’s own memory fragment dedicated to dream relevant information, making me dumber and dumber the more self reliant DCs present in the dream.

At one point, I guess I would have so little memory that the core of my knowledge would be inaccessible. The whole is me though the me in the whole is not. It is just a temporary holder of my consciousness exploring a landscape that seems as real to the consciousness as life itself.

So, with only access to information acquired in the dream for my consciousness to make logical decisions, anything can happen, including being influence by each individual entities in the whole. Even what would be considered unlikely IRL could seem perfectly normal in the dream as you no longer have a base of reference other than the dream acquired information.

Since all dream entities have acquired this information, they all work together to maintain the status quo.

I can’t say I was lucid in the dream. Though I had full control in a real lifelike environment, I had no knowledge of my true self and no inkling I was dreaming other than the girl telling me I was. Even when the girl convinced me I was dreaming, I could not trust that I really was as I had not points of reference outside the dream..

Mguy
09-22-2006, 05:31 PM
Yeah like last night, I had a dream I was walking down the street in the clothes I was wearing to sleep. People were laughing at me, but I didn't care. It seemed so real too. In my dream I was convinced it was reality.

megabenman
09-22-2006, 09:40 PM
Hey you copied my avatar :blue: