new matrix (now with spoilers!)

[jill1978]

New matrix comes out soon....Any predictions.I hope they answer why they wear sunglasses all the time, my husband says it just looks cool, but the #3 is suppose to answer all our questions....Like in the famous fight scene with all the agent smiths neo finally creates that wave and flies away....why did'nt he do that to begin with....sounds like a lucid dream to me, some control but not always complete control

[wasup]

Matrix 3? Don't you mean Matrix reloaded?

[jill1978]

no #3 matrix revealed it comes out november 6th

[Aneas]

Matrix Revolutions

[icedawg]

Originally posted by jill1978
Like in the famous fight scene with all the agent smiths neo finally creates that wave and flies away....why did'nt he do that to begin with....sounds like a lucid dream to me, some control but not always complete control

A couple of my friends have wondered the same thing, but I think I have the answer (at least, they always say, "Oh yeah..." after I suggest it to them). Remember when Neo was going to visit the Oracle and he meets up with her guardian (or whatever)? He hints to Neo that in order to truly know someone, you must fight him/her. Thus, I'm guessing he stayed to fight that agent for so long simply to understand him better and gain an idea of exactly what he was up against. At least, that's my guess...

[hysteria]

hey, makes sense to me

[Serinanth]

*griz at IceDawg*

So far these movies have freaked me out, I am always traveling to worlds that I must learn the rules, so that I can bend and break them if possible, Alot of people did not like the second movie...
I liked it more than the first, it delves deeper into reality itself and people dont like it being shown to them because its frightening.

I dont mean a reality in which we are slaves to machines, I mean in a reality in which we are aware.... on all levels...I know many people that can see the extraordinary in life but choose not to do a thing about it because they want a normal simple life...

/rant off/

[DreamCoil]

People want a simple life, they don't want to face reality, that's why we have entertainment to fill time and take us away from all the bad stuff.
Maybe a person would be ready for the kind of extraordinary awarness your talking about Serinanth, but not people... to big a shock...
A person is smart, people are dumb panicy idiots.

[O'nus]

Originally posted by icedawg+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(icedawg)</div><!--QuoteBegin-jill1978
Like in the famous fight scene with all the agent smiths neo finally creates that wave and flies away....why did'nt he do that to begin with....sounds like a lucid dream to me, some control but not always complete control

A couple of my friends have wondered the same thing, but I think I have the answer (at least, they always say, \"Oh yeah...\" after I suggest it to them). Remember when Neo was going to visit the Oracle and he meets up with her guardian (or whatever)? He hints to Neo that in order to truly know someone, you must fight him/her. Thus, I'm guessing he stayed to fight that agent for so long simply to understand him better and gain an idea of exactly what he was up against. At least, that's my guess...[/b]

In reality, he probably would have flown away as soon as possible, but, this is a movie.. you gotta have action. That's the real reason, ;-)

[liquid]

He knows hes not going to die right away. The guy can dodge/stop bullets and not even the hand-to-the-heart cloning method agent smith tried on him worked. So why the heck would he run away. It makes perfect since that he would stay to fight maybe even for a soul purpose of having a little fun...

[O'nus]

Originally posted by liquid
He knows hes not going to die right away. The guy can dodge/stop bullets and not even the hand-to-the-heart cloning method agent smith tried on him worked. So why the heck would he run away. It makes perfect since that he would stay to fight maybe even for a soul purpose of having a little fun...

Because they weren't playing fair!! :morecrying:

Regardless, the most important question still remains un-answered:

Is there a spoon?!

Also, did anyone else noticed that "Neo" is another word jumbled up from "One"?

~ NeoNeoNeo : O'nus

[liquid]

No I didnt actually...

But did YOU ever notice that his house number in the first Matrix was 101 :D

Theres so many interesting facts in that movie, especially concerning the names for everything...

Trinity, Nebuchanezer, those two have something to do with religion, forgot what though, someone let me know if you know

[O'nus]

This will answer all of you questions!! Click here now! (http://www.ntv.co.jp/channel/kasoh/kin10.html)[/url]

[liquid]

sorry it doesnt work...

The site opens up with that little blue t.v. thing, and then i press play, but nothing plays. If I right click anywhere on the site it says, welcome to *square* *square* *square*...(it shows little squares, it doesnt actually say "square."

???

[O'nus]

This link should work!!! (http://media.ebaumsworld.com/matrixpong.wmv) :lol:

[jill1978]

their ship had a number on it that is a bible verse...their are alot of christian referenses like a modern story of jesus

[dougdrums]

There is an essay on here somewhere that talks about religion: http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_c...l_category.html (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/new_phil_category.html)

Trinity = Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Trinity in the movie plays a close God role because of the "Reserection" of Neo, or "The One".

Cypher = Judas :P

Morpheous would be close to John.

[Serinanth]

There is no spoon...

Its a SPORK!

[O'nus]

Originally posted by Serinanth
There is no spoon...

Its a SPORK!

:eek: *Commits ritual suicide*

[dougdrums]

Hah, that'd be funny. No it wouldn't...

[Seeker]

Watched Matrix Reloaded last night for the first time. The plot was more involved and complex than the first.
I give it two thumbs up on the plot.
However, at 2 hours 18 minutes, it was just too long.
If they would have shaved 20 minutes off of some of the fight scenes and the scenes where they were showing the machines, it would have been better.

Being a programmer myself, I really liked the parts where they were using back doors to get into area's.

[Second Attention]

Hell, if they had laid of the action for a few seconds and explained shit a little better, the movie would've r0x0red much more... but it was still good.

[Silver Sphere]

It seemed to me that they just didn't know what kind of movie they were trying to make. I like philosophical movies but I don't think they were really pulling it off all that well. The fight sequences seemed to happen almost randomly and I didn't really like any of them.

[hysteria]

Originally posted by O'nus+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(O'nus)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Serinanth
There is no spoon...

Its a SPORK!

:eek: *Commits ritual suicide*[/b]


ROFL

[evangel]

I think they could have shaved off most of that cave rave scene in Matrix 2 -too MTVesque. :roll:

[Silver Sphere]

Originally posted by evangel
I think they could have shaved off most of that cave rave scene in Matrix 2 -too MTVesque. :roll:

I remember wondering what the hell they were trying to accomplish when I was watching that.

"Here are some chicks in wet t-shirts to amuse you until the next fight scene. Now would be a good time to go to the bathroom... we've still got a looooong way to go."

[Seeker]

I agree. I think the only reason they did that was to procure an R-rating

[jill1978]

Ok tonight I'm going to see the new matrix at the imax theater...this should be interesting. The only thing I've seen at imax was the mystery of egypt....I hope all the motion dose'nt get me sick.

[evangel]

Originally posted by jill1978
Ok tonight I'm going to see the new matrix at the imax theater...I hope all the motion doesn't get me sick.

Yeah, that will be intense on the eyes They never show regular movies at the imax theater here in San Diego. All they show are special shows like National Geographic type stuff made specifically for the imax format. Did they have to refit the movie for the imax showing?

[dougdrums]

holy jebus, it is way better than the first and reloaded combined! I just got done seeing it!

[jill1978]

ok I have to complain....the imax theater was'nt a total surround like I've seen at the science museum, and the movie was the worst yet!!!!Sorry doug if you liked it, I guess I just have different taste, but I think it had very little depth......I was hopeing for a clicher, and all that happened is what you expect to happen and it's still left open ended enough for a sequal....I guess I would'nt say dont waste your money because doug loved it, so maybe it's just me...I think the first one was awsome and I guess I expected things to get better....The first one made you think...the second one made you try to think, and the third one you dont have to think.

[dougdrums]

Yeah, but that's just because they gave you most of the answers in the third.

After awhile, you kind of just forget what he is there to do.

[Serinanth]

I liked it, I cant say it was exceptional, but I can say it was good.

I thought the Zion Dock scene with the mass of sentinals was well done...

It made me think, but im weird like that Love is just a word, the connection to that word is whats important.

lotsa stuff, but I wont get into any of it I wont be that guy =)

[icedawg]

alright, so i saw the 3rd matrix last night, and i thought it was crap. in fact, i liked it least than the 2nd one, and i thought THAT was crap. :D i was annoyed by a great number of things, but mostly the fact that once they had established that premise, they could have taken that movie to much greater lengths than they did. i think it should have been a 3 hour finale; instead, it was a measly hour and 45 minutes. had they used that hour and 45 minutes wisely, then perhaps i wouldn't have minded, but they didn't so i do. :D and i felt the architect should have had a way more profound and memorable speech at the end instead of the 2 phrases he spat out.

ahwell. life goes on eh?

[Serinanth]

Did any of you find it odd...

The most human character seemed to be Mr. Smith?

He showed the largest degree of emotion compared to the other characters... and he was a program.

Or am I just looney.

[jill1978]

I guess that indian faimly was suppose to show you that the matrix had evolved to the point of the programs having human emotion(their daughter being a useless program and being deleted)....but how did they get a daughter to begin with, I guess programs can reproduce?....I'm with icedawg and thought they could have done more...plus there are still questions....why would the machines allow neo to get rid of smith in exchange for peace....are the people of zion just going to allow ather humans to still be used as batteries?

[Citizen Erased]

Originally posted by jill1978
why would the machines allow neo to get rid of smith in exchange for peace....are the people of zion just going to allow ather humans to still be used as batteries?

Because Smith is the complete equal opposite of Neo, his negative. Like Neo he had the power to control everything. The machines and Neo knew that Smith would take over first the Matrix and then the machine world and destroy it all. They both knew a resolution of peace between each other was preferable to complete destruction. They said as much a few times in the film. And as for the batteries, again, they said that the people in the Matrix were released. Pay attention! :wink:

[jill1978]

they said the people would be allowed to be released if they wanted to, but would agents still interfere...smith was'nt the opposite, because part of neo was in him.

[Citizen Erased]

Originally posted by jill1978
they said the people would be allowed to be released if they wanted to, but would agents still interfere...smith was'nt the opposite, because part of neo was in him.

From what I remember, after Neo first destroyed Smith back in the first film, he was brought back to 'balance the equation'. Neo is a mathamatical anomoly within the matrix spawned because of the choice people make to stay or leave the Matrix(according to the achitecht in Reloaded). Then if I remember right in Revolutions it went on to explain that Smith is the attempt to balance out the mathamatical anomoly within the equation of the matrix. Because of this he became too powerful because, out of neccesity to be a balance, he became the polar opposite of Neo (hence why Neo can't just fly inside of him and destroy his code like he didn't in the first film and also why he's able to leave The Matrix).