Recall Training

[lefkos]

my self doesnt have any problems with it
but i told mij friend about LD's and stuff
but he sad to me : wel what you called Dream recall, thats very very bad because i cant remember any dreams for a month right now i sad wel maybe you must try a dream journal
and he sad yeah thats and idea but how can i take a dream journal if im not dreaming
than i was quiet and im asking your help
how can someone train is dreamrecall i mean whats the point of a dream journal if you cant dream?
help please! i really want to help him with LDing and stuf

[Klace]

What do you mean by, If you can't dream?

You dream multiple times every night, it's up to yourself to remember them.
Your friend obviously just doesn't remember them, as the memories fade away into the night, and the morning.
If he wrote down every dream, RIGHT after he had them, then he would be surprised.
He does dream, he just does not remember the dreams, that's the purpose of keeping a dream journal, to increase your dream recall.

[Goldney]

Okay I'm gonna go ahead and translate that into english.

I don't have any problems with dream recall, however I've told my friend about lucid dreaming and other stuff like that. So we talked about it

Friend: My recall is terrible because I haven't remembered any dreams for a month.
Me: Well, maybe you could try using a dream journal.
Friend: Yeah, that's an idea. But how can I use a dream journal if I can't remember dreaming at the moment.

I didn't say anything because I was unsure what to say. So that's why I'm asking your help.

Please could you help me help my friend to lucid dream because it's important to me that I have someone to talk to about lucid dreaming etc.


I hope that's a help to any subsequent readers...

[BohmaN]

Okay I'm gonna go ahead and translate that into english.

I don't have any problems with dream recall, however I've told my friend about lucid dreaming and other stuff like that. So we talked about it

Friend: My recall is terrible because I haven't remembered any dreams for a month.
Me: Well, maybe you could try using a dream journal.
Friend: Yeah, that's an idea. But how can I use a dream journal if I can't remember dreaming at the moment.

I didn't say anything because I was unsure what to say. So that's why I'm asking your help.

Please could you help me help my friend to lucid dream because it's important to me that I have someone to talk to about lucid dreaming etc.
I hope that's a help to any subsequent readers...
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Everybody remembers a dream once in a while! If you don't wish yo wait you can always set your alarm in the end of one of your REM-periods. Or perhaps try some affirmations? And as soon as you remember a dream you write it down :)

[Goldney]

What do you mean by, If you can't dream?

You dream multiple times every night, it's up to yourself to remember them.
Your friend obviously just doesn't remember them, as the memories fade away into the night, and the morning.
If he wrote down every dream, RIGHT after he had them, then he would be surprised.
He does dream, he just does not remember the dreams, that's the purpose of keeping a dream journal, to increase your dream recall. [/b]

I don't think that remembering them's the problem just yet. It's having vivid enough ones to remember them. What I recommend is before you go to bed say to yourself, "I will remember my dreams, I will remember my dreams" over and over again then to set an alarm a couple of hours before you usually wake up and write down anything, ANYTHING about your dreams that you can remember, even if it's only an object/face etc. Over time this will gradually improve and you will be able to remember several dreams a night with very little effort.

[Lord Toaster]

He hasn't remembered any because he hasn't concentrated on remembering any. Now that he's consciously trying to remember them, they should come... also try the alarm clock thing and eat bananas :P

[FireFlying]

The alarm clock idea is pretty good.

I find simply having the dream journal and a pencil near your bed helps you concentrate on remembering dreams, as just having that there tells your subconscious "It is important that I remember my dreams tonight."

[lefkos]

Okay I'm gonna go ahead and translate that into english.

I don't have any problems with dream recall, however I've told my friend about lucid dreaming and other stuff like that. So we talked about it

Friend: My recall is terrible because I haven't remembered any dreams for a month.
Me: Well, maybe you could try using a dream journal.
Friend: Yeah, that's an idea. But how can I use a dream journal if I can't remember dreaming at the moment.

I didn't say anything because I was unsure what to say. So that's why I'm asking your help.

Please could you help me help my friend to lucid dream because it's important to me that I have someone to talk to about lucid dreaming etc.
I hope that's a help to any subsequent readers...
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sorry for my bad english but im dutch and 15 years old so i dont have that much experience with english sorry
and about the rem period on what time are you gonna enter the rem period?

[FireFlying]

You usually enter the REM period after around five hours of sleep, but it depends on how much sleep you need (if you haven't had sleep in three days, you have to sleep off the hours you haven't slept before entering REM period).

[MoD]

You enter REM period in a interval of 90 minutes. But theese get shorter as the night proceeds...

[Necco]

Hey
I red you’re question and here’s my answer.
Ask you’re friend if he could visit this site first of all.

--- starting a Journal---
Whenever Ur friend has a pen and paper
Tell him to write out absolutely any detail he can remember about his dreams.
At first it may seem like it’s wasted time
But it is the first step.

And suppose you’re friend says it is a waste of time.
Let him know that “writing any dream emotion,
Signals to you’re brain that you care about your dreams.”
Hence, it’s the first step.

Hope that helps ya.

[lefkos]

Hey
I red you’re question and here’s my answer.
Ask you’re friend if he could visit this site first of all.

--- starting a Journal---
Whenever Ur friend has a pen and paper
Tell him to write out absolutely any detail he can remember about his dreams.
At first it may seem like it’s wasted time
But it is the first step.

And suppose you’re friend says it is a waste of time.
Let him know that “writing any dream emotion,
Signals to you’re brain that you care about your dreams.”
Hence, it’s the first step.

Hope that helps ya.
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wow i didnt thought about it this much you helped me aswell :lol:
i asked if he want to join the site but he is very bad in english so he's not sure.
btw i had also suddenly trouble with recall
i have a dream journal and stuff but maybe its because i'm sleeping VERY HEAVY the last nights i dunno why but i cant remember them either :S

[Robotgod]

I agree with Necco. I have known about Lucid Dreaming (from the Lucid Dreaming Institute) for some time, but when I came to this site, after thoroughly reading through the site/forums, i recalled 2 dreams pretty clear, and a hint of another. Next night 3, next 2, then a few off and on. Im sure if he spends some time reading stuff on this site he will remember a dream.


Hey
I red you’re question and here’s my answer.
Ask you’re friend if he could visit this site first of all.

--- starting a Journal---
Whenever Ur friend has a pen and paper
Tell him to write out absolutely any detail he can remember about his dreams.
At first it may seem like it’s wasted time
But it is the first step.

And suppose you’re friend says it is a waste of time.
Let him know that “writing any dream emotion,
Signals to you’re brain that you care about your dreams.”
Hence, it’s the first step.

Hope that helps ya.
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[steve2112]

You enter REM period in a interval of 90 minutes. But theese get shorter as the night proceeds...
[/b]

I think this is my problem. I don't sleep well and I don't get to sleep very long. I get about 6 hours a night if I'm lucky and I'm dead tired when I wake up. I must not be hitting REM sleep long enough to really get a regular dreaming cycle.

Last night I went to bed with the thought of remembering dreams on my mind. I woke up and there was nothing...

[Robotgod]

Keep at it, and you will start remembering. You can also set an alarm clock to go off during the night on a weekend right after a REM period (every 90 mins, i would recommend waiting 2-3 REM cycles. Just remember to write down any little thing you remember.

[Amethyst Star]

Another trick that I've found helps is when you first wake up, don't move. Just lay there for a minute or so and try to remember what just happened. Try to remember anything; an emotion, a color, etc. Usually if you can remember something, you'll be able to remember a lot more, especially if you work backwards from the end of your dream. Then, once you've remembered as much as you can, grab your Dream Journal and write it down.

[Lucidbulbs]

Well, I know coming to this site would help a lot because things that you read, do, etc during the day do affect your sleep and dreams so if he was frequently reading, thinking, or talking about dreaming it tends to make dreams easier to remember, at least that's how I've noticed it to be with me [before I came here, I was lucky to have two dreams recalled a night, now that I've been here, three is the average, two is a low amount, and 6 is my high]. But because he's not good with English, it doesn't make it easy...

He should also, right when he wakes up, stay still and try to remember, at the very least, key points or things of importance that were in his dreams. It's good to do because even if he forgets the dream, he still has chance of recalling it because people [or at least I] tend to think of a jumble of thoughts in one day and it's more than likely that he'll think about that thing of importance and remember his dream [I've tested it and it's worked on me but every person's different so...]

A dream journal's important too, something that he should do once he's done trying to do the thing above. When he focuses on remembering a dream, it's more than likely he'll become more aware that he's at least had dreams that he's forgotten afterwords [does that make any sense?], so he can't really argue with you about at least starting one.

[The Cusp]

First of all, you absolutely HAVE to start a dream jounal, and write your dreams down in as much detail as possible. I know, I know... you not having any dreams to fill a journal.

Everyone has to have at least one dream the remember from sometime, I think it's safe to say that most people can remember a few. Ideally you have one written down, but going from memory can work as well.

My foolproof plan to good dream recall
Go over the dreams you already have recorded. But don't just remember it an move on. Try to hold it for as long as you can, reliving and remembering as much detail as possible. If you have several dreams, going over them once a day sould be enough. If you have very few dreams to work with so far, do it several times a day, holding the dream for as long as you can.

Also pay attention the lingering feeling dreams leave when you wake. It's like a feather tickle on the back of your brain.

[JFK-really-it's-me]

all i had to do was thinkabout i a looooot
the first will be short and blury
try B6