The butterfly effect.

[Howie]

The butterfly effect is a movie I had just watched. It was very good. I can summerize it up by saying I think most Lucid dreamers would like it.
Anyone else seen it?

[Gothlark]

Yeah, I've seen it. It was good, a little disturbing in my opinion, but good. Has anyone else seen furniture and stuff jet out like it does in the movie, when he travels back in time, during hypnagogic imagery? :lol:

[O'nus]

Great movie! I loved it. On the DVD, you are able to see many psychotherapists view on Chaos Theory which I (obviously) enjoyed the most.

It made me wonder where I could go back in time in my life and how it might change my life significantly.

This movie also brought up the very interesting paradox; what would happen if you go back in time and kill yourself? (This is considering that you would take another form and be able to see yourself). However, this movie makes the very interesting arguement that time travel may not allow you to keep your physical body throughout any time travel.

Anyways, it's easy to get into and get lost in to, lol.

Probably the only thing which I liked Ashton Kutchner in.

[sensi]

Yep, I've seen it. I enjoyed it. Great concept.

Peace sensi.

[Je33ica]

What a coincidence... I saw that movie two nights ago. I enjoyed it, I don't understand why the critics were so harsh on it. The movie was long and sometimes redundant, but I still enjoyed it.

It was so weird to see Ashton so serious. He's not as bad an actor as I thought.

But it was weird because whenever he went back to change time, it only seemed to effect his circle of friends. It didn't effect the world outcome, and this is odd because that is what the butterfly effect is: affecting the entire world, not just a group of four friends.

[icedawg]

Originally posted by O'nus
This movie also brought up the very interesting paradox; what would happen if you go back in time and kill yourself?

depends on whether there is only one timeline or [the potential for] infinite timelines.

[O'nus]

Originally posted by Je33icaLy88
What a coincidence... I saw that movie two nights ago. I enjoyed it, I don't understand why the critics were so harsh on it. The movie was long and sometimes redundant, but I still enjoyed it.

It was so weird to see Ashton so serious. He's not as bad an actor as I thought.

But it was weird because whenever he went back to change time, it only seemed to effect his circle of friends. It didn't effect the world outcome, and this is odd because that is what the butterfly effect is: affecting the entire world, not just a group of four friends.

Probably did, but the movie would not have as much character development.

Also, it might suck:

Ashton goes back in time to try to save girl - Ashton comes back - World explodes - End of movie.

Or

Ashton goes back in time - Ashton comes back - Aliens now control Earth and humans are extinct - End of movie.

Some lame deus ex machina.

Which ending of this movie did you guys like most? I liked the Theatrical version more, the original. I first saw the Director's cut and I just... don't like it. *Trying not to spoil*

[Howie]

I wathced the directors cut which had (whats his face), take on a whole differant ending, where as my friend rented it from the video store and it had a happy ending with him adressing the relationship with the girl when they were young. Somthing to the effect -get out of my life. As opposed to ******** like in the other version.

******** = so not to spoil it for those who have not watched it yet!

[Je33ica]

Originally posted by O'nus

Which ending of this movie did you guys like most? I liked the Theatrical version more, the original. I first saw the Director's cut and I just... don't like it. *Trying not to spoil*

Oh crap! I only watched the theatrical version ( I was puzzled when they had that option on the DVD, but completely forgot about it later). The ending I watched was... well, I'll PM you... :P

EDIT: Opps, nvm. Howetzer posted it. He ******* himself! Gosh, I didn't watch it, I'm so stupid. I've already returned the DVD, gosh darn it :doh:

[Death-Wuad]

The butterfly was one of the best movies I've seen recently, and I do agree with O'nus that the director's cut just wasn't as good as the final ending.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Je33icaLy88
EDIT: Opps, nvm. Howetzer posted it. He ****** Gosh, I didn't watch it, I'm so stupid. I've already returned the DVD, gosh darn it

Sorry Je33icaLy88 :oops: I never took into consideration I might spoil the "other" endind. I will EDit it so no one else has the same problem!

[Je33ica]

Originally posted by Howetzer

Sorry Je33icaLy88 :oops: I never took into consideration I might spoil the \"other\" endind. I will EDit it so no one else has the same problem!

Oh no Howetzer, it's okay :D , I wasn't being that clear. I wanted to know the other ending, I was just calling myself stupid because I forgot to watch it and already returned the DVD. But you can still edit it if maybe other people don't want to know the ending.

[Awaken]

The first half was really cool, not knowing what happened during the blacked out scenes and whatnot. The second half blew chunks. What a shallow, boring, waste of time...Sorry to be a wet blanket, but damn, I was disappointed :)

[Shadows]

i want to see that movie. it looks really good.

[smoovD]

great movie, i love thinkin about time travel and all that good stuff, i recommend donnie darko if you liked the butterfly effect, but i didnt like the ending to butterfly effect, too happy. i think it woulda been better if the ending was when all his friends were normal and hes in a wheelchair, that woulda been really deep if it ended like that. still hafta get the dvd to see the alternate endings though.

[death dreamer]

GAHH I WANNA SEE THIS MOVIE SO BAD

[GenocideREactor]

I liked the movie but not very good with the time travel and stuff...
ive thought about it for ages and ages and ages, there is no time really everything has already happened and if you can say travel to the past then it has already happened and there will be no consequences because its what you do... sounds confusing but when i think about it, it makes sense.

I like how fry is is own grandfather on futurama... completely impossible but sooo funny

[Howie]

Originally posted by GenocideREactor
I liked the movie but not very good with the time travel and stuff...
ive thought about it for ages and ages and ages, there is no time really everything has already happened and if you can say travel to the past then it has already happened and there will be no consequences because its what you do... sounds confusing but when i think about it, it makes sense.

I like how fry is is own grandfather on futurama... completely impossible but sooo funny

That is assuming there is only ONE concept of time. MAybe there are multiple times and exitenses for all of us?

[GenocideREactor]

do you mean that each individual could have a different concept of time?
or that there are different realities and such...

there is no proof.

[smoovD]

theres no proof that there isnt

[GenocideREactor]

I recently learnt about that kind of response to a question... Its a falacy or something, something about negative blah blah blah...

[Howie]

Originally posted by GenocideREactor+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GenocideREactor)</div>do you mean that each individual could have a different concept of time?
or that there are different realities and such...

there is no proof.[/b]

<!--QuoteBegin-smoovD
theres no proof that there isnt
That is the beauty of theories. You can throw any Idea out there and it is up to somone else to prove it. :wink: But the plus side is that it could make you see the other side, if there is one!.!.

[GenocideREactor]

It seems a tad Ilogical

[smoovD]

actually, youre thinkin about a double negative, and my statement was not a double negative...

[GenocideREactor]

no im not
I go to uni we learnt some stupid shit about falacies and answering a question like that is a falacy of non sequiteur or some crazy french gay word, or it was the falacy above that on the hand out we got which might have been begging the question... im not sure i only looked at it once then threw it away... anyway i had a black out once after watching a documentry on chimpanzees and i viciously attacked my little brother. It wasnt a dream either.

[Shadows]

omg. :o i just watched it. thats a cool but very weird movie. 8)

[Ev]

just watched that movie. It is soooooo awesome! :D

[baconmastermind]

I thought the movie sucked, because Kutcher can't act at all. And I liked the premise, but it's been done.
Remember that tree-house of horror episode of the simpsons, in which Homer goes back in time because of a malfuctioning toaster. Every little action he does ends up screwing with the timeline. The world was taken over by flanders, doughnuts fell from the sky, and a bunch of other hilarious events.

[nightowl]

i had the chance to watch this movie. my brother rented it and all. i chose not to watch it though. Im pretty sure i would've felt like i was wasting 2 hours. the plot just isnt interesting for me. i hope i didnt make a mistake by not watching it...

[Awaken]

Originally posted by nightowl
i had the chance to watch this movie. my brother rented it and all. i chose not to watch it though. Im pretty sure i would've felt like i was wasting 2 hours. the plot just isnt interesting for me. i hope i didnt make a mistake by not watching it...

If you're looking for a deep plot, look elsewhere :-P

I think I'm one of the few who would rather cut my lawn with a pair of scissors than watch this movie again...After the first 20 minutes or so, nothing really engaging occured...The initial emotionally-intense scenes were shocking and provoked a sense of wonder, but when they actually got to the time-travel scenes, it was really cut-and-dry, and lacked substance. Nothing abstract or thought-provoking happened. It was quite predictable.

[baconmastermind]

Not only that, but that stupid , open-mouthed, look of confusion on Kutcher's face half of the time! That guy is just a stupid, talentless, MILF-fucker.

[Awaken]

Cookie-Kutcher is fine for Dude Where's My Car but he can't put on a believable serious face.

[OrangeStar]

I thought the movie was very good and entertaining overall, but the casting and acting sucked! For once, I think Ashton was the best actor in a movie, but he was absurdly mis-cast. (sorry, I want to be a casting director when I grow up so I constantly analyze this stuff...)

[Khronos]

that movie caused me to sign up here. I went bolistic with time/existance related ideas. Anyone who got more into the story then the actual movie, let me know.

Intellectual discussion anyone?? :lol:

[dreamscape]

time travel is possible with astral projection but onto the the topic it was a good movie.

If you put your finger way up you nose you can touch your brain

[Khronos]

*tries it*

No way! You're right!! :lol:

[Je33ica]

Yahoo! My sis rented the movie a couple days ago (cause she didn't see it), so I was able to watch the alternative endings: director's cut, stalker, loveydovey. I'm glad with the original ending (theatrical cut) because it left me satisfied but not overly happy (bittersweet). The alternative endings were too sad or too stupid.