Do you beleive in aliens?

[Dreamhope11]

I personally beleive in them, whether the goverment are keeping them a secret or not, i just don't see why some people don't beleive them, because the universe is so big i highly doubt we are the only ones living here, but if we do make contact aliens will it be a good thing?
Or a bad thing, these aliens could be a race of super computers like the film transformers, or they could be your traditional looking aliens. Just think that right now as i type this somewhere in the universe there are possibly thousands of alien civilisations, each planet with strange creatures and enviroments, there might also be alien wars going on, them fighting over planets as we used to fight over countries.
And a last question to you, if you where to ask a highly peacful and intelligent alien a question what would it be? only serious answers please.

[skysaw]

Life on other planets? I'm absolutely certain of it. That they visit here is another question, which I guess I have a somewhat open mind about.

The problem of interstellar travel is quite an obstacle to any alien race ever coming into contact with another. I imagine there are perhaps millions of worlds with intelligent life on them, each too far away from its nearest neighbor to ever hope to visit.

Although we're probably "not alone," we may just be far enough away that no one would ever be able to visit. Of course they'd have to want to as well. :)

[Riot Maker]

One of my all time favourtie Sagan clips of him using the Drake equation to furhter support that life on other planets exsists.

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I saw a U.F.O. onece. Doesn't mean it was anything extra terrestrial but i just couldn't simply identify it. It was in mid day 2 summers ago while i was practicing baseball that i saw a huge silver saucer shaped thing in the sky it stood out beacsue the suns rays reflecting off of it made it vey easy to find. I looked at it questioning it's exsistances and rubbing my eyes because i never scence anything remotely close to it before. As i starred at it it started moving rapidly from left to right, i looked away because i thought it was somehing wrong in my vision even though i have perfect eyesight. I looked up again about 10 seconds later and it was at a standstill again, then it just simply disappered.

I hollered to the 3rd baseman on the team, "Did you see that!?!?!" he of course had no clue what i was talking about. No one else did either when i brought it up in the clubhouse after practice. They all thought i was on some sort of drug.

But anyways to answear your question. I would ask the ailen if he had some sort of knowledge/evidence on how the universe was created.

[Goldney]

Do you know how far away Andromeda (the nearest galaxy to us) is?

2,500,000 light years away.

A light year is around 6,000,000,000,000 miles.

So together it is: 1,500,000,000,000,000,000 miles away. And that's if you can travel at the speed of light. Which is impossible. Not just really really hard to do impossible. Against the laws of the universe impossible.

Yes that may be the nearest galaxy you argue, but what about the nearest planet?

That's 10.5 light years away. Still a colossal distance. As well as that the planet is gaseous so no life as we know it could form on it.

However, as to whether there is any other life out there in the universe? That's a mathematical certainty due to the size of the universe. So yes there is life, but none that has visited us.

[FreeOne]

yeah i believe in life on other planets, but we arent ever going to meet any other life.

[Oneironaut]

And that's if you can travel at the speed of light. Which is impossible. Not just really really hard to do impossible. Against the laws of the universe impossible.


Unless you consider the possibility of wormholes.

We also can't try to relate our own scientific prowess with those of extra-terrestrials. Many of their (possible) civilizations of more than likely existed for even millions of years before ours was even formed. Should this be the case, their technology could be so far beyond our wildest dreams that to count out the possibility of their having, long since, discovered how to utilize wormholes would be pretty premature.

[hankwheels]

I doubt there is any other life forms in OUR solar system, because the other planets are either way too cold or way too hot, but I am very certain that there are many other planets similar to Earth in other solar systems in our universe.
I can't imagine that the only planet in out entire universe with life on it is Earth. Unfortunately, these other planets are so far away from us, we won't ever be able to even prove their existance, much less explore them.

[Oneironaut]

Unfortunately, these other planets are so far away from us, we won't ever be able to even prove their existance, much less explore them.

Well, the good thing is that we are already proving the existences of planets that are just like Earth, outside our solar system. Unfortunately, though, you're right about exploring them being much more complicated.

On the flip side, even many scientists have said (as I've believed all along) that we can't base every prerequisite for "life" on our own standards of "what life requires." It's more than reasonable to assume that many types of extra-terrestrials (should they exist) can survive in many different elements that we, Earthlings, could not, just as many types of Earth creatures can survive in elements that many other Earth creatures cannot - extreme heat and cold just being but a few of these elements.

[Xox]

I think it's a good possibility.

[Shark Rider]

I think they exist too. Just because of the fact that our galaxy is HUGE. And universe is IMPOSSIBLY bigger. so, if in one galaxy there's one planet called Earth and there's life on it. Imagine how many galaxies like that exist in the universe. we don't even know yet if we're alone in OUR galaxy.

[Grod]

No, I do not.

[Spartiate]

Extraterrestrial life is still quite possible within our solar system, though it most definately wouldn't be sentient. The best candidates would be the moons of the outer planets, many of which are speculated to contain huge quantities of ice or even vast oceans. Hell, even Mars might still harbor life, extinct or otherwise.

[Pyrofan1]

I believe in illegal aliens.

[Elwood]

Omg Pyro, that fantasy football pic is hilarious!


Oh yeah, the thread... I think there is an overwhelming possibility of life elsewhere in the Universe. Like Oneironaut said, there could be life like ours thats existed for a GOOGOL of years. Look how far we've come in a hundred years. Now ad 100 to the power of 99 . Thats how much more advanced the civilization would be. :0..

[Pyrofan1]

Like Oneironaut said, there could be life like ours thats existed for a GOGLE of years.

the universe hasn't been around for that long. and spell it right, googol.

[Elwood]

I did ;)

And you dont know how long the UV has been around "BUB"

[Pyrofan1]

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hehe

[Elwood]

*Screams like little girl and stomps feet*

[Mes Tarrant]

Given the size of our universe, I am sure there are other life forms out there (like someone else mentioned). At the same time, I'm quite sure that the government isn't hiding any green creatures. :roll:

My astronomy professor pointed out that if there is life somewhere out there (beyond our solar system of course), it very well may be that it doesn't resemble any sort of animal that we have on earth. It might be so far removed from what we can even imagine...

[cuddleyperson]

can someone explain why exactly it is supposed to be impossible to travel faster then light?

I mean we can go faster then sound, ok you now can't hear what's outside, so why can't ships simply go faster then the set speed off light, and just not see any light until they slow down?

Also why do people say going faster then light would result in time travel? So when you go really fast you age slower or something? They seem to mean say one year traveling at light speed means thousands of years on earth, so when you get back after two years if light speed the earth has changed loads. Why is this?

[skysaw]

can someone explain why exactly it is supposed to be impossible to travel faster then light?

Also why do people say going faster then light would result in time travel?

Why is this?

The answers are pretty academic at this point, but deserve some reading. I highly suggest Hawking's A Brief History of Time (http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Time-Stephen-Hawking/dp/0553380168/) for explanations that are easy to understand.

[O'nus]

I do not "believe" in anything. I will give the possibility for anything and know that somethings are systematically observable (ie. gravity).

In other words, I think there is a possibility that there is no aliens, but I have no reason to think that there are alien life forms outside of Earth other than mudane and exaggerated reports of NASA.

Unforunately, claiming to have seen something is not convincing enough for any other person to believe in your perceptions as facticity.

If I say, "I saw a pink elephant in my room" or, better yet, "I see a pink elephant in my room, right now. Therefore, pink elephants exist" would you believe that pink elephants exist?

It is when you can justify theories rather than explain theories that make them cogent.

What do you think...?

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[Riot Maker]

I think that more and more reports of UFO's are surfacing over time. If 1 million people saw a pink elephant would it exist? no. But you would have to question everything that just happend.

[Dreamhope11]

But military officials have reported alien sightings, even neil armstrong said he did, they would have no reason to say that, one person says pink elephants exist no one beleives but if 1mil people saw it there would be a possible existence.

[O'nus]

But military officials have reported alien sightings, even neil armstrong said he did, they would have no reason to say that, one person says pink elephants exist no one beleives but if 1mil people saw it there would be a possible existence.

You are touching base on the God delusion.

Of course, if I said I was Napolean and tried to act like him; everyone would think I was mad. However, if everyone soon believed that I was, reinforced it, and told others; then that mass of people would then be sharing the madness.

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[Oneironaut]

You are touching base on the God delusion.

Of course, if I said I was Napolean and tried to act like him; everyone would think I was mad. However, if everyone soon believed that I was, reinforced it, and told others; then that mass of people would then be sharing the madness.

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Not exactly. The two aren't necessarily comparable.

The main difference is probability.

We know you're not Napolean, because his life has been documented. Napolean is dead. It's been long since proven as such. There is very logical reason to suggest the existence of extra-terrestrial life. Look at us. Our species is thousands of years old, and we are already touching on interplanetary travel. The universe is billions upon billions of years old (at least), so, at the very base, it's reasonable to assume that, should any other civilizations exist, they have had their interest in inter-planetary, interstellar, or intergalactic travel as well.

That bit of logic, alone, overrides even the remotest possibility of you being Napoleon. Sure, to just assume that it's the truth, beyond down, is fallacious. I won't argue with that, but there is a much stronger base for such reasoning than there is that you are Napoleon.

[O'nus]

We know you're not Napolean, because his life has been documented. Napolean is dead. It's been long since proven as such. There is very logical reason to suggest the existence of extra-terrestrial life. Look at us. Our species is thousands of years old, and we are already touching on interplanetary travel. The universe is billions upon billions of years old (at least), so, at the very base, it's reasonable to assume that, should any other civilizations exist, they have had their interest in inter-planetary, interstellar, or intergalactic travel as well.


Focusing just on this first; this is utilizing a lot of inference and implication for the existance of aliens. Keep in mind all of the pranks and scams involving extra-terrstial claims that may also cause noise and problems with proving the existance of alien life-forms.

Of course, we can say that there is a probable cause that another life species has evolved like us. However, how many human beings have existed that could have lived a similar life-style as Napolean?

I realize this is far streaching, and I am not really arguing anything here. The point is that probability is not a reason to make something fact. The fact remains that you are still believing it be true simply from an inference from probability instead of fact.

Of course, we can both see the plausible difference between the two. There is obviously a more like-liness of another species outside of Earth than another Napolean simply due to the immense amount of variables required to bring about another Napolean. My point was simply that it still has a probability.


That bit of logic, alone, overrides even the remotest possibility of you being Napoleon. Sure, to just assume that it's the truth, beyond down, is fallacious. I won't argue with that, but there is a much stronger base for such reasoning than there is that you are Napoleon.

Right. We're on the same page here. I just wanted to point out that simply believing or inferring something is no reason for it to be facticity.

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[M-Cat]

So together it is: 1,500,000,000,000,000,000 miles away. And that's if you can travel at the speed of light.
Distance is determined by how fast you go..?

That bit of logic, alone, overrides even the remotest possibility of you being Napoleon. Sure, to just assume that it's the truth, beyond down, is fallacious. I won't argue with that, but there is a much stronger base for such reasoning than there is that you are Napoleon.
I met Napoleon once. He was an asshole, wouldn't give me an autograph.

But military officials have reported alien sightings, even neil armstrong said he did, they would have no reason to say that, one person says pink elephants exist no one beleives but if 1mil people saw it there would be a possible existence.
They have reported UFOs, not aliens. difference.

Oh yes and 1 million people have claimed to see God, that doesn't mean he exists. haha. But I do believe there is other life out there, of course. And obviously existence is infinite so there's any kind of life you can imagine in existence.

[Goldney]

Unless you consider the possibility of wormholes.

We also can't try to relate our own scientific prowess with those of extra-terrestrials. Many of their (possible) civilizations of more than likely existed for even millions of years before ours was even formed. Should this be the case, their technology could be so far beyond our wildest dreams that to count out the possibility of their having, long since, discovered how to utilize wormholes would be pretty premature.

I disagree, why should intelligent life have formed? Human beings are pretty exceptional creatures and I think that we're a big step up from the next smartest animal. As well as that, planets have a habit of "resetting" themselves with huge natural disasters such as volcanos and ice ages, the fact that the earth hasn't been interrupted by one of these for a long time is something of a miracle. There's a super volcano underneath Yellowstone Park that's just waiting to go off.

Distance is determined by how fast you go..?


I was using light years as a base reference for all my working and got a little confused. Basically ignore that last part.

[M-Cat]

I was using light years as a base reference for all my working and got a little confused. Basically ignore that last part.
Yeah I know what you meant.

[Dreamhope11]

You never know but aliens might already know of earth and merely see us as we see cattle. And to be honest i think humanity should change its violent ways, for example if a highly intelligent peaceful civilisation came and shared there power to all corners of the earth, humankind would surely become corrupt and mis use the power to there own benefits.

[Spartiate]

can someone explain why exactly it is supposed to be impossible to travel faster then light?

I mean we can go faster then sound, ok you now can't hear what's outside, so why can't ships simply go faster then the set speed off light, and just not see any light until they slow down?

Also why do people say going faster then light would result in time travel? So when you go really fast you age slower or something? They seem to mean say one year traveling at light speed means thousands of years on earth, so when you get back after two years if light speed the earth has changed loads. Why is this?

The simple answer is that we can't accelerate past the speed of light, since modern physical equations theorize that in doing so, an object's mass would become infinite. Now there exists numerous ways and theories to "cheat" this law, but it's in no way comparable to the sound barrier, which isn't even a barrier really. The time travel bit is taken from more equations in Einstein's theory of Relativety. Basically, the faster you move relative to a position, the less time goes by, past the speed of light, you would actually be reversing time compared to the same point, time is a dimension after all. In fact, astronauts on the International Space Station who spend months in orbit travelling at tens of thousands of kilometers per hour have existed for a fraction of a second less than us upon returning to Earth.

And to be honest i think humanity should change its violent ways, for example if a highly intelligent peaceful civilisation came and shared there power to all corners of the earth, humankind would surely become corrupt and mis use the power to there own benefits.

That's human nature, we'd basically have to evolve out of that, not an overnight thing.

[Oneironaut]

Focusing just on this first; this is utilizing a lot of inference and implication for the existance of aliens. Keep in mind all of the pranks and scams involving extra-terrstial claims that may also cause noise and problems with proving the existance of alien life-forms.

Of course, we can say that there is a probable cause that another life species has evolved like us. However, how many human beings have existed that could have lived a similar life-style as Napolean?

I realize this is far streaching, and I am not really arguing anything here. The point is that probability is not a reason to make something fact. The fact remains that you are still believing it be true simply from an inference from probability instead of fact.

Of course, we can both see the plausible difference between the two. There is obviously a more like-liness of another species outside of Earth than another Napolean simply due to the immense amount of variables required to bring about another Napolean. My point was simply that it still has a probability.

There is obviously a more like-liness of another species outside of Earth than another Napolean simply due to the immense amount of variables required to bring about another Napolean.

By "suggesting the existence" of extra-terrestrials, I didn't mean to state it as fact. I meant that it's logical to at least present a case for it. My mistake. I should have been more clear on that.

Also, your statement was that you were Napoleon. That is different than saying you were exactly like Napoleon. It would be much more logical to give credit to the idea that the immense amount of variables required to bring about another Napoleon(esque) persons could be met, than there is to give credit that you are are, in fact, the one and only Napoleon, without getting into the whole aspect of reincarnation and/or parallel universes.

But, other than that, we agree on everything.

[Grod]

I should have explained a bit.

I think that for life to occur, is so rare, that we are the only planet in the entire universe with life.

[Oneironaut]

Goldney:

I think you're committing the same mistake that so many other people do, when considering the plausibility/implausibility of extra-terrestrial life. You are basing too much of what is Universally Possible (as far as "life") off of what is possible by our own Earthly standards.

It's much like a super-intelligent deep-sea creature saying: "What? Life outside of water? That's preposterous. We all know that if you stay out of the water for too long, you die. Look all around us. Look at all the creatures that inhabit these oceans. The conditions have to be just right. There is no way life can exist outside of water."


I disagree, why should intelligent life have formed? Human beings are pretty exceptional creatures

Pretty exceptional? By whose standards? Our own?


As well as that, planets have a habit of "resetting" themselves with huge natural disasters such as volcanos and ice ages, the fact that the earth hasn't been interrupted by one of these for a long time is something of a miracle.

How many of these planets do you know have "reset themselves?" 3? 4 at the max? How old are these planets? How old is our solar system? How much information on what "planets" (generally speaking) "do," during the course of their existences, do you have? Again, this is the fatal flaw of basing what is universally possible by our present knowledge of what is possible for us which is, universally speaking, limited.


There's a super volcano underneath Yellowstone Park that's just waiting to go off.

Again, our civilization is relatively young and we, through technology, already have a better chance of surviving a "global killer" event than, say, the dinosaurs, and that is with the "young" technology that we now possess. Apply that same scale to a civilization that is, with all possibility, hundreds of thousands of years older than us and we are, suddenly, much less statistically exceptional.

[O'nus]

By "suggesting the existence" of extra-terrestrials, I didn't mean to state it as fact. I meant that it's logical to at least present a case for it. My mistake. I should have been more clear on that.


Yeah, I was more or less elaborating on what you said. You said that my analogy was not appropriate so I tried to show how. I think we get each other now.


Also, your statement was that you were Napoleon. That is different than saying you were exactly like Napoleon. It would be much more logical to give credit to the idea that the immense amount of variables required to bring about another Napoleon(esque) persons could be met, than there is to give credit that you are are, in fact, the one and only Napoleon, without getting into the whole aspect of reincarnation and/or parallel universes.


Oh, I suppose that is breaching upong "what is real" debate, hrm? Ok, sorry about that one. Let's just leave that there, lol.


But, other than that, we agree on everything.

Except one thing....


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*Falls down in the sand, looks up and
*Shakes fist* Damn you! Oneirooooooo!!! You took my naaaammmeeee! :p

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[Oneironaut]

Except one thing....


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*Falls down in the sand, looks up and
*Shakes fist* Damn you! Oneirooooooo!!! You took my naaaammmeeee! :p

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Hehehe. HEY!, I had nothing to do with it! It was just kinda...passed on to me! :peek:

[Dreamhope11]

I should have explained a bit.

I think that for life to occur, is so rare, that we are the only planet in the entire universe with life.

How can you say that? do you know how big the universe is? say the universe is the sahara desert and each sand grain represents a planet, we are just one grain of sand. you get me?

[Grod]

How can you say that? do you know how big the universe is? say the universe is the sahara desert and each sand grain represents a planet, we are just one grain of sand. you get me?

I know that. It's infinitively big anyway. I think that life occurring is a fantastic idea, and is so rare we are the only planet with it.

[Oneironaut]

I think that life occurring is a fantastic idea, and is so rare we are the only planet with it.

What do you base that on?

[Grod]

What do you base that on?

As far as we know there is no other life in this solar system.

I know what you're saying, though, I'm only saying that relative to what I know.

[Oneironaut]

As far as we know there is no other life in this solar system.


This is true. But it's also thinking small on something which requires a much bigger scale.

There are billions upon billions of other solar systems out there. There are other stars (suns) and other multi-planetary orbits around those stars. It has already been confirmed that around some of the known stars (which is still even a small fraction of the stars that exist) there are planets that, as far as we can tell, are nearly identical to Earth in position, orbit, size, and various other aspects.

"As far as we know," without knowing it all, Earth has already been scientifically considered not to be unique. The only thing that remains is the obstacle of getting to those discovered planets and exploring them.

[Grod]

This is true. But it's also thinking small on something which requires a much bigger scale.

There are billions upon billions of other solar systems out there. There are other stars (suns) and other multi-planetary orbits around those stars. It has already been confirmed that around some of the known stars (which is still even a small fraction of the stars that exist) there are planets that, as far as we can tell, are nearly identical to Earth in position, orbit, size, and various other aspects.

"As far as we know," without knowing it all, Earth has already been scientifically considered not to be unique. The only thing that remains is the obstacle of getting to those discovered planets and exploring them.

Do you have any sources for those identical planets? (This isn't an argument btw, I'm interested in this)

I've heard something like this, as in the distribution of matter repeating itself, but I don't think we'll ever know.

As I think someone said before here, the nearest solar system is hundreds of light years away... so we'll never be able to reach there, unless we travel via a wormhole, but that can take you through time as well as space. I can't prove alien life doesn't exist, the same as the other way,(unless we encounter some, of course) but unfortuneately I think we are alone in this universe.

[Oneironaut]

Do you have any sources for those identical planets? (This isn't an argument btw, I'm interested in this)



Yeah, give me a little bit. I know I saved them on my StumbleUpon hits, so I'll find them.

[Valdyr]

I do, and I really hope that I'm around when we finally make contact.

[Spartiate]

Do you have any sources for those identical planets? (This isn't an argument btw, I'm interested in this)

I've heard something like this, as in the distribution of matter repeating itself, but I don't think we'll ever know.

As I think someone said before here, the nearest solar system is hundreds of light years away... so we'll never be able to reach there, unless we travel via a wormhole, but that can take you through time as well as space. I can't prove alien life doesn't exist, the same as the other way,(unless we encounter some, of course) but unfortuneately I think we are alone in this universe.

I think the planet O is thinking of is Gliese 581 c (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_c), which is only 20 light years away. Scientists have already drawn up plans to explore nearby solar systems, these unmanned missions would take place over the span of more than a century (Project Orion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29), Project Daedalus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus), Project Longshot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Longshot)).

The reason that the rest of our solar system seems devoid of life is because Earth is the only planet inside our solar system's habitable zone, a "sweet spot" that is at just the right distance from the sun (Mars and Venus are just outside the zone). But that doesn't rule out the existence of recently discovered extremophiles, a good candidate would be Europa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29), one of Jupiter's moons which is speculated to have vast subsurface oceans.

Now at the moment, we are pretty much only able to detect large extrasolar planets that are many times larger than Earth, usually gas giants. To our knowledge, there are no life forms capable of living in those conditions. But the reason we don't detect Earth-sized rocky planets isn't because they aren't there, it's because we can't. We just have to wait for technology to catch up with our imaginations.

[Grod]

I think the planet O is thinking of is Gliese 581 c (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_c), which is only 20 light years away. Scientists have already drawn up plans to explore nearby solar systems, these unmanned missions would take place over the span of more than a century (Project Orion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29), Project Daedalus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus), Project Longshot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Longshot)).

The reason that the rest of our solar system seems devoid of life is because Earth is the only planet inside our solar system's habitable zone, a "sweet spot" that is at just the right distance from the sun (Mars and Venus are just outside the zone). But that doesn't rule out the existence of recently discovered extremophiles, a good candidate would be Europa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29), one of Jupiter's moons which is speculated to have vast subsurface oceans.

Now at the moment, we are pretty much only able to detect large extrasolar planets that are many times larger than Earth, usually gas giants. To our knowledge, there are no life forms capable of living in those conditions. But the reason we don't detect Earth-sized rocky planets isn't because they aren't there, it's because we can't. We just have to wait for technology to catch up with our imaginations.

Thanks for the links, Spart.

I heard that about Europa, maybe in my lifetime we'll have astronauts explore it.:?

[Spartiate]

Thanks for the links, Spart.

I heard that about Europa, maybe in my lifetime we'll have astronauts explore it.:?

I don't think manned missions will play an important part of space exploration for the foreseeable future, we'll probably just consolidate bases on the Moon and Mars. Unmanned space travel is vastly more efficient and new technologies are giving probes more advanced capabilities.

[Grod]

I don't think manned missions will play an important part of space exploration for the foreseeable future, we'll probably just consolidate bases on the Moon and Mars. Unmanned space travel is vastly more efficient and new technologies are giving probes more advanced capabilities.
Yes.

...yes.

[The Wig]

Do you know how far away Andromeda (the nearest galaxy to us) is?

2,500,000 light years away.

A light year is around 6,000,000,000,000 miles.

So together it is: 1,500,000,000,000,000,000 miles away. And that's if you can travel at the speed of light. Which is impossible. Not just really really hard to do impossible. Against the laws of the universe impossible.

Yes that may be the nearest galaxy you argue, but what about the nearest planet?

That's 10.5 light years away. Still a colossal distance. As well as that the planet is gaseous so no life as we know it could form on it.

However, as to whether there is any other life out there in the universe? That's a mathematical certainty due to the size of the universe. So yes there is life, but none that has visited us.

If you could travel at the speed of light it would be instantaneous. The only people who would notice the amount of time it took would be the people here on Earth (if they would even still be alive) and the aliens (hopefully they would be, or some other population arose).

[Oneironaut]

Thanks, Spart. Gliese 581c is the first of the few "Super-Earths" that I was talking about. Since Gliese, there have been plenty more of these Earth-like planets found.

New planet 'may be home to aliens' (http://news.skymania.com/2007/11/new-planet-may-be-home-to-aliens.html)

"There are not only more potentially habitable planets, but MANY more." (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/01/there-are-not-o.html#more)

[Jeff777]

Thanks, Spart. Gliese 581c is the first of the few "Super-Earths" that I was talking about. Since Gliese, there have been plenty more of these Earth-like planets found.

New planet 'may be home to aliens' (http://news.skymania.com/2007/11/new-planet-may-be-home-to-aliens.html)

Does that planet seem like the fabled/mythological Nibiru to you?

[Dreamhope11]

To be honest i think contact now has been most likely ever, SETI are sending simple messages into space, i think that contact with another civilisation is very possible, they would probaly make contact via radio messages, and because they might be so far away they might of sent them years ago but they still havent reached us yet.

[PatienceMarie]

I believe in aliens, because they believe in me.

We're like home dawgs and stuff.

-patience

[ninja9578]

100 billion stars in an average galaxy. 100 billion billion galaxies in the universe. The odds are pretty good that not only do aliens exist, but there are advanced civilizations.

[Man of Shred]

I believe in aliens, because they believe in me.

We're like home dawgs and stuff.

-patience

*crosses fingers for a guilt free interspecies orgy on 2021*

[Riot Maker]

Anyone hear about that ufo sighting in texas where 30plus people saw something that was well unidentifiable. It was all over the news.

[Dreamhope11]

u mean the phoneix lights?? well they thought it was flares, how stupid is that, the military would of said it was them if they did it, it was aliens i tells ya

[Riot Maker]

No not the phoenix lights. this just happend on wendsday and it was on cnn. Among the witnesses was a pilot and he said that the craft was about a mile long.

Federal officaials said there is no logical explanation.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Jan16/0,4670,ODDUFOSightings,00.html

[Dreamhope11]

holy shit a mile long! :o