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Aquanina
02-01-2008, 06:33 AM
Child eats drugs on candy[/b]
Mother charged with abuse after girl ingests LSD
By Dan Benson, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
August 2, 2007
West Bend - A West Bend woman has been charged with physical abuse of a child after her 2-year-old daughter ate two LSD-laced candies the woman allegedly purchased and brought back to their apartment.
According to a criminal complaint filed Thursday in Washington County Circuit Court:
The mother, Donielle M. Maki, 23, and a friend, Valerie J. Anderson, 19, went to a house in the 500 block of Oak St. in West Bend on Tuesday and bought 10 drug-laced candies that looked like SweeTarts for $7 each from a man at the house.
Maki told investigators she bought the LSD for her cousin.
After buying the drugs, Maki went home, put her 2-year-old daughter to bed and then "passed out" on the couch in the apartment.
When she woke up Wednesday at about 9 a.m., her daughter was sitting on the floor near her Care Bears couch and said, "I like these, Mommy" and had one of the drug-laced candies in her hand.
Maki saw only eight pieces of candy left and knew her daughter had eaten two of them.
Maki and her sister, identified in the complaint as Tanya R. Maki, 20, tried to induce vomiting and then called the poison control center, which advised them to take the girl to a hospital.
Donielle Maki told West Bend police she and her sister had conferred "to get their stories straight" to tell police that someone had left the drugs in the apartment.
They then took the girl to St. Joseph's Hospital in the Town of Polk. She was later transferred to Children's Hospital of Wisconsin in Wauwatosa.
Washington County District Attorney Todd Martens said the baby is recovering.
According to the complaint, police later searched Donielle Maki's apartment and found the eight remaining LSD-laced candies, nearly four ounces of marijuana, a drug pipe and three tablets of what police believe to be Vicodin, a narcotic pain killer.
Donielle Maki is charged with four felonies - physical abuse of a child, possession of LSD and marijuana with intent to deliver and possession of narcotics. She's also charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, a misdemeanor. If convicted on all counts, she could be imprisoned up to 25 years and 7 months.
Anderson was charged with possession of LSD with intent to deliver, for which she could be imprisoned 15 years.
Tanya Maki was charged with obstructing an officer, a misdemeanor.
Donielle and Tanya Maki were released Thursday from the Washington County Jail on $5,000 and $500 signature bonds, respectively.
Anderson is still in custody on a probation violation. She was convicted in April of manufacturing and selling designer drugs and sentenced to two years of probation.
Link (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=642042&format=print)
Kushna Mufeed
02-01-2008, 06:51 AM
And I think to myself, What wonderful wooorrrld.
Oneironaut
02-01-2008, 06:57 AM
Wow. :shock:
...That kid just earned like +75 Experience points. :chuckle:
No, but seriously, though: That's a horrible story. It probably happens a lot more often than we'd think, too. =/
Identity X
02-01-2008, 07:23 AM
"I like these, Mommy" and had one of the drug-laced candies in her hand.
See, she enjoyed it. Let's hope someone at Haribo stumbles upon this "market research". This is the future of confectionary.
Taosaur
02-01-2008, 07:37 AM
Hopefully the kid can go with relative. Also, hopefully the woman will get a sensible judge--this is a great example of drug laws complicating a case of simple negligence. Should this woman be jailed for twenty-five years, virtually ensuring she comes out a hardened criminal and further traumatizing the child in question, or should she lose primary custody until Family Services deems her fit? Which would serve the child and society better?
On a related note, my friend's 8y.o. cousin once ate a dose on a stick of gum, and my friend just gave him an idea what to expect and the family helped the kid through it and he did just fine. It was almost certainly less traumatic than medical and legal intervention. Not to say that's what this woman should have done: my friend's cousin at least was past the age of reason.
Aquanina
02-01-2008, 07:52 AM
Hopefully the kid can go with relative. Also, hopefully the woman will get a sensible judge--this is a great example of drug laws complicating a case of simple negligence. Should this woman be jailed for twenty-five years, virtually ensuring she comes out a hardened criminal and further traumatizing the child in question, or should she lose primary custody until Family Services deems her fit? Which would serve the child and society better?
On a related note, my friend's 8y.o. cousin once ate a dose on a stick of gum, and my friend just gave him an idea what to expect and the family helped the kid through it and he did just fine. It was almost certainly less traumatic than medical and legal intervention. Not to say that's what this woman should have done: my friend's cousin at least was past the age of reason.
Agreed. I think the jail sentence is ridiculous. The kid is now going to grow up without a mother because she was irresponsible and messed up once. Doesn't seem right.
Also this is now going to traumatize the child for life...where as the kid probably wouldn't have even remembered a night tripping on acid at age 2 if they had just let it be.
This is sad because it discourages people from taking potential ODs to the hospital. Our society is pretty effed up.
Howie
02-01-2008, 08:32 AM
Agreed. I think the jail sentence is ridiculous. The kid is now going to grow up without a mother because she was irresponsible and messed up once. Doesn't seem right.
Also this is now going to traumatize the child for life...where as the kid probably wouldn't have even remembered a night tripping on acid at age 2 if they had just let it be.
This is sad because it discourages people from taking potential ODs to the hospital. Our society is pretty effed up.
Do you think that this is the first time a parent like this messed up?
The damage may have already been done.
That does not mean I think that those laws are appropriate.
bluefinger
02-01-2008, 08:45 AM
LSD? Meh, when I was about that age, I managed to get at a bottle of Cif, and drank it behind my mum's back. By the time my mum noticed, I had drunk a considerable amount of the bottle.
Afterwards, a trip to the hospital. Not a lot of fun, but while I can remember the taste, the rest of the experience is thankfully forgotten.
But, in terms of hardcore-ness... two LSD laced sweeties... or nearly half a bottle of Cif... I think the latter is more hardcore. Go me! :lol:
No, but seriously, though: That's a horrible story. It probably happens a lot more often than we'd think, too. =/
For some reason I thought that said "drink." :hrm:
Anyway, that is a horrible story, the child is going to be traumatized for life. Who knows what happen to her while on lsd? It doesn't sound like a bad trip, but still. And I'm sorry, but the mom deserves to go to jail. The poor child will probably have to go into foster care... There is nothing more I hate then seeing parents treat their children wrong, which is often seen in public. It makes me very angry, and i have no problem with approaching them and telling them exactly how I feel. :?
Aquanina
02-01-2008, 09:00 AM
LSD? Meh, when I was about that age, I managed to get at a bottle of Cif, and drank it behind my mum's back. By the time my mum noticed, I had drunk a considerable amount of the bottle.
Afterwards, a trip to the hospital. Not a lot of fun, but while I can remember the taste, the rest of the experience is thankfully forgotten.
But, in terms of hardcore-ness... two LSD laced sweeties... or nearly half a bottle of Cif... I think the latter is more hardcore. Go me! :lol:
And imagine how you would have felt if, because of this...you grew up in foster care, because your mother was in jail. And you were known as "the baby who drank Cif"
(I don't know what Cif is btw)
Howie
02-01-2008, 09:13 AM
My baby is on salvia divornium. :? and rsst#477 but I don't know what that is. lol
For some reason I thought that said "drink." :hrm:
Anyway, that is a horrible story, the child is going to be traumatized for life. Who knows what happen to her while on lsd? It doesn't sound like a bad trip, but still. And I'm sorry, but the mom deserves to go to jail. The poor child will probably have to go into foster care... There is nothing more I hate then seeing parents treat their children wrong, which is often seen in public. It makes me very angry, and i have no problem with approaching them and telling them exactly how I feel. :?
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Spartiate
02-01-2008, 09:15 AM
My baby is on salvia divornium. :? and rsst#477 but I don't know what that is. lol
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OK there Howie :P?
bluefinger
02-01-2008, 09:54 AM
And imagine how you would have felt if, because of this...you grew up in foster care, because your mother was in jail. And you were known as "the baby who drank Cif"
(I don't know what Cif is btw)
I'm messed up enough as it is... so no problems there :D And Cif is a bathroom cleaner (similar to bleach).
But seriously, the drug story is pretty disturbing. So yeah, losing your mum and being thrown into foster care would be pretty traumatising. But at such a young age, who knows how it will really affect the child?
Taosaur
02-01-2008, 10:46 AM
Anyway, that is a horrible story, the child is going to be traumatized for life. Who knows what happen to her while on lsd?
If she reached the hospital within an hour, nothing at all. Doctors would administer medication to stop the trip. The child will be traumatized mainly due to the legal system, not the LSD.
And I'm sorry, but the mom deserves to go to jail.
In what sense ''should'' she go to jail? To satisfy an abstract sense of justice despite virtually assured, far-reaching negative outcomes? For a fraction of the cost of a criminal trial and imprisonment, we could put this woman in rehab and parenting classes, actually addressing the problem. A 90 day jail sentence may serve as a useful deterrent, but a long prison term will simply turn a drug offender into a hardened criminal and put her daughter at far greater risk of the same fate.
It's ironic that these tough-on-crime laws do so much to perpetuate and expand the criminal class, and the same lawmakers do everything in their power to shut down womens' shelters, planned parenthood clinics and sex education classes, not to mention breaking up non-traditional families.
But sure, let's lock her up, and when the kid grows up we'll lock her up, and when we run out of space to lock them up, we'll have a war. We could all use the money.
ranma187
02-01-2008, 10:51 AM
I wouldn't be at all suprised if that child grows up a genious!
Taosaur
02-01-2008, 11:42 AM
I wouldn't be at all suprised if that child grows up a genious!
Again, she probably had little or no trip. I'm not sure how they would proceed with a 2y.o., but generally if someone shows up at the hospital on LSD, they administer medication to block the receptors, and LSD takes about an hour to take effect.
Aquanina
02-01-2008, 12:06 PM
I'm glad someone here is making some sense. ^^
Mes Tarrant
02-01-2008, 12:09 PM
Jeez, a 23 year old mom who bought LSD and passed out on the couch.... I just feel really sorry for the little girl. It also makes me feel very lucky for having normal (and older) parents.
Taosaur
02-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Jeez, a 23 year old mom who bought LSD and passed out on the couch.... I just feel really sorry for the little girl. It also makes me feel very lucky for having normal (and older) parents.
Hate to break it to you, but 20-something moms who still party are pretty normal.
Aquanina
02-01-2008, 01:48 PM
I know 40-something moms that still party. And 50-something dads.
Taosaur
02-01-2008, 02:03 PM
I know 40-something moms that still party. And 50-something dads.
Heh, I have a 40-something mom that still parties, and yeah, it did kind of suck growing up, especially for my younger sisters, but I learned to look out for myself pretty damned quick.
Mes Tarrant
02-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Younger parents are more likely to party. And this one clearly wasn't normal! :lol:
Aquanina
02-01-2008, 06:40 PM
So anyone who does LSD isn't "normal"? I'd like to know how you define normal...
Spartiate
02-01-2008, 08:34 PM
So anyone who does LSD isn't "normal"? I'd like to know how you define normal...
She said this girl, and in this case it's not normal, nor appropriate. First of all, I think it's a little irresponsable to be using drugs while caring for toddlers. Second of all, at the very least make them inaccessible to the children, it's like leaving an open bottle of antifreeze on the counter.
Mes Tarrant
02-01-2008, 08:37 PM
She said this girl, and in this case it's not normal, nor appropriate. First of all, I think it's a little irresponsable to be using drugs while caring for toddlers. Second of all, at the very least make them inaccessible to the children, it's like leaving an open bottle of antifreeze on the counter.
Yes.
Let's face it, you can't argue that this woman was in any way responsible.
unfortunatley we are forced to share this world with people pathetic enough to use drugs in the pressence of children (or use drugs at all for that matter) maybe expanding the death penalty would force people to get their act straight
*raises level 97 buffed flame sheild*
Taosaur
02-02-2008, 09:17 PM
unfortunatley we are forced to share this world with people pathetic enough to use drugs in the pressence of children (or use drugs at all for that matter) maybe expanding the death penalty would force people to get their act straight
Making outrageous suggestions on the internet is surely a step in the right direction :roll:
Aquanina
02-02-2008, 09:45 PM
Making outrageous suggestions on the internet is surely a step in the right direction :roll:
haha...no kidding
Xaqaria
02-03-2008, 04:14 AM
For some reason I thought that said "drink." :hrm:
Anyway, that is a horrible story, the child is going to be traumatized for life. Who knows what happen to her while on lsd? It doesn't sound like a bad trip, but still. And I'm sorry, but the mom deserves to go to jail. The poor child will probably have to go into foster care... There is nothing more I hate then seeing parents treat their children wrong, which is often seen in public. It makes me very angry, and i have no problem with approaching them and telling them exactly how I feel. :?
Do you have children?
Howie
02-03-2008, 06:41 AM
I want to pose a simple question to you. I tried to discuss a similar idea in vein. I wanted your guys opinion.
I will first say that I do not proclaim to have the answers for how the legal system's punishments would be enacted ok.
Some may think it requires harsher punishment i.e., the death penalty. wooo
Others think somewhere in between. Regardless it diverts me from the underlying question.
● This same situation occurred because of the mother's lack of responsibility. She is lazy and would be considered a bad mother by most.
●This same situation occurred but the mother was on a substance - That being LSD alcohol, marijuana. salvia, crack. Legal or illegal at this point, but A substance.
●● Should the punishment handed down be the same or different?
Or should their not be a punishment in either of the two?
Taosaur
02-03-2008, 09:42 AM
● This same situation occurred because of the mother's lack of responsibility. She is lazy and would be considered a bad mother by most.
What you've just done is known in psychology as the fundamental attribution error. People asses their own actions in terms of situational variables, while attributing others' actions to fixed character traits. I would say (on sparse evidence, granted) that she is irresponsible and underprepared for parenting, both of which can be addressed.
●This same situation occurred but the mother was on a substance - That being LSD alcohol, marijuana. salvia, crack. Legal or illegal at this point, but A substance.
●● Should the punishment handed down be the same or different?
There's a big difference--in your hypothetical situation the child is endangered, whereas in the actual case the girl ingested a non-toxic substance which, as a child, she's probably uniquely well-equipped to handle and almost certain to forget. Most over-the-counter meds would pose a greater threat. While LSD + children is a big unknown, warranting the mother's response of seeking help at great personal risk, the main danger to the child's well-being comes from our legal system, not the mother's negligence.
I already laid out my idea of an appropriate response to the real case. If the mother were under any influence, I would say up to two years in an institution with rehab facilities and a year of clean probation before she could regain custody. I'm not saying that's the only reasonable response, but it strikes me as one reasonable response.
my obviously rediculous suggestion aside. perhaps a way to stop crime among teenagers and such would be to incorporate laws that held parents responsible for their underage child's actions. this would force parents like this mother who is obviously going to be a worthless parent to at least teach their children some values. I belive parents would keep better controll of their children if their own skin was on the line
if the mother had been taught to follow the law at a young age this whole situation would have been averted
Mes Tarrant
02-03-2008, 12:50 PM
^ Parents are held responsible for their underage children's actions, aren't they? In some cases, anyway...
Does anyone know what actually happened/is going to happen to the mother?
Meh. Perhaps the kid would thrive better with a foster family, who knows.
^ Parents are held responsible for their underage children's actions, aren't they? In some cases, anyway...
Does anyone know what actually happened/is going to happen to the mother?
Meh. Perhaps the kid would thrive better with a foster family, who knows.
parents are held responsible but not punished properly. parents ought to recive the adult punishment for whatever their children do. i think it would force parents to keep their kids in check
parents are held responsible but not punished properly. parents ought to recive the adult punishment for whatever their children do. i think it would force parents to keep their kids in check
I can't believe you are serious. There are some kids, that no matter the consequences, will do illegal things. And you want the parents to be punished? It may help some cases but it would do a lot more harm than good. You think you should go to jail for something your kid does, even after lecturing them over and over about what it could for you and them? People who don't have kids seem like they think they would be able to control their kids.... It's not easy at all.
Kids are always going to do crazy stuff, blaming the parents isn't going to make it better. Their parents will go off to jail and they'll do crazier shit because they just don't care anymore, they already lost their parents over stupid mistakes that many kids do.
Mes Tarrant
02-03-2008, 09:45 PM
^^ That's a good point. Good parents would end up getting punished.
Like I said earlier somewhere, I think parents need way more education on how to raise their kids. Obviously there can never be like a simple rule book or anything, but a lot of parents make the same mistakes over and over again.
Howie
02-04-2008, 08:11 AM
I took it as she had passed out and was also on the laced candy. Which is not the case.
Sorry for the previous proposition.
AmazeO XD
02-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Oh What a BEAUTIFUL MORNING, OH what a beautiful day.. I've got this wonderful FEELING, everythings going to shit.
Aquanina
02-04-2008, 09:50 PM
*sigh*
Howie
02-05-2008, 06:30 AM
*sigh*
Sorry Nina. It was a band when I was in school. I felt it reflected the times.
I will delete it. :?
dreamsinmymynd
02-07-2008, 02:06 PM
I would jus tput the mom on probation, but thats just me. I feel like in many cases, Jail hurts someones freidns and family more than the actual person that was incarcerated. Especially in this case. The mom should get drug charges, but if she cared for her daughter enough to have herself go to jail to save her daughter, you know she can't be too bad of a person.
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