Do you dream in a coma?

[Scott0302]

If you have ever been in a coma, do you dream? And if you were a Lucid Dreamer and you were in a coma, do you think that you could go Lucid and wake yourself up? Or would you just have to go and and walk around in a dreamworld for weeks possibly months?
:shock:

[Serinanth]

Duno about a coma... I got concussed once, dont remember most of the day... its kinda creepy feeling actually, losing memories like that, in this place, im kinda gettin used to it on the other side.
If you were like me? you would probably be stuck there =)

Depends on the comma I think. Some are realy deep and there is little brain activity, others they show lots of activity like one would see with a dreaming person, but I duno if any of them have woken up if they have what they recounted their dreaming experience or rememberd it.. might be interesting to look into.

[Rtex]

I always had this notion that I'm in a coma right now, And one day I'll wake up, and the entire life i've lived will be nothing more than my brain making up a world for me.

I mean, how uncool would that be........Merh,

But yeah, I think you dreams in comas

[Dream-Master]

You don't dream when in a coma since your brain activity in the cortex is reduced.

[Scott0302]

That would be kinda freaky Rtex that you are in a coma and you wake up and your whole life has been a fake, kinda like the matrix in a way. But that means if your in a coma right now and your mind is making all this up that means I'm not real. And I'm pretty sure I'm real.

[Serinanth]

Up to one in three people who recover claim to retain some memory of their time in coma. Their accounts depict a spectrum of experiences ranging from an absolute void to partial awareness within overall unconsciousness, much like dreaming during deep sleep.
Vegetative patients are another story though.

[Rtex]

Uhhh, right, Um, yea....anyhow,
I mean, Scientist know, what, Like pretty much nothing about the mind(I said Mind, Not brain) Couldn't you still dream vividly with low brain activity? All i'm saying is we have yet to explore all tyhe brains capabilities. Anyone agree?

[Serinanth]

they have ideas, they see connections to certain things like brain wave activity and whether or not one is dreaming, in the lucid dreaming experiments they have run, people were dreaming and lucidly and they recorded brain activity and stuff... but brain wave activity and fMRI images are a generalization and can never pinpoint what an actual thought is, the same region of the brain lights up with different thoughts at times... But yeah they do know next to nothing about how it really works and what we really are.

[Mysteryhunter]

That would be kinda freaky Rtex that you are in a coma and you wake up and your whole life has been a fake, kinda like the matrix in a way. But that means if your in a coma right now and your mind is making all this up that means I'm not real. And I'm pretty sure I'm real.

lol
How is it that years after the movie release, some how the Matrix is always alluded into these.
A coma would be great,
Maybe we could lurk around without a body
ahhh
to be ---> in - vis - a - bo.



*poof*

:ninja:

[LucidFreedoM]

I always kind of wondered this exact thing..its very interesting.

Anyone up for being put in a coma and finding out? :)

[reality<LDs]

I always had this notion that I'm in a coma right now, And one day I'll wake up, and the entire life i've lived will be nothing more than my brain making up a world for me.

I mean, how uncool would that be........Merh,

But yeah, I think you dreams in comas

That would be kinda freaky Rtex that you are in a coma and you wake up and your whole life has been a fake, kinda like the matrix in a way. But that means if your in a coma right now and your mind is making all this up that means I'm not real. And I'm pretty sure I'm real.


There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.

[Semja]

If you have ever been in a coma, do you dream? And if you were a Lucid Dreamer and you were in a coma, do you think that you could go Lucid and wake yourself up? Or would you just have to go and and walk around in a dreamworld for weeks possibly months?
:shock:
I think I may have been in a coma once. I wasn't admitted to hospital but my friends(?!) thought I was dead. If this ever happens to your friend, for whatever reason, please call an ambulance!

I had absolutely no memory when I woke up. My last memory was just before I lost consciousness. I woke up wrapped in blankets but I was freezing cold. It wasn't an experience I want to repeat.

[Super Duck]

I think I may have been in a coma once. I wasn't admitted to hospital but my friends(?!) thought I was dead. If this ever happens to your friend, for whatever reason, please call an ambulance!

I had absolutely no memory when I woke up. My last memory was just before I lost consciousness. I woke up wrapped in blankets but I was freezing cold. It wasn't an experience I want to repeat.
There's a big difference between being out-cold, in a coma and dead. You probably fainted.

[Semja]

I didn't really want to get into a debate about it. I was out for hours, stone cold, I stopped breathing or was breathing so faintly it was not noticeable. I have fainted before. I didn't faint on that occasion. It didn't just happen, there were external causes. Whatever happened I'm not proud of it, I posted it out of interest. If it wasn't a coma its the closest I've been to a coma. Call it what you will.

[oubaseballd3]

There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.

That was Descartes wasnt it? or was it Frued, i cant remember, either way, they were both mental hippies...figuratively speaking of course, both philisophical geniuses none the less, point being dont take too much of what they say to be truth lol

[reality<LDs]

That was Descartes wasnt it? or was it Frued, i cant remember, either way, they were both mental hippies...figuratively speaking of course, both philisophical geniuses none the less, point being dont take too much of what they say to be truth lol

indeed, but what we think is crazy talk, is just their(Frued and or Descartes) imagination creating us to think its crazy lol...

[LobbyDonut]

Anyone seen the Nickelodeon TV series "The Odyssey"? It's about a boy who goes into a coma and ends up in a different (possibly dream) world full of kids. I liked watching it, when I was about 11.

[Hargrove1315]

I always had this notion that I'm in a coma right now, And one day I'll wake up, and the entire life i've lived will be nothing more than my brain making up a world for me.
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hahah ive felt like that too

[dk2852]

There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.
This theory was called solipsism and it was Descartes who pioneered it. As he famously said "Cogito Ergo Sum" translated to "I think therefore I am". I like Nine Inch Nails explanation better "what if everything around you, isn't quite as it seems, what if all the world you think you know is an elaborate dream."
And, if you think about it, is there really any way of knowing anyones consciousness outside of your own.

[Elwood]

You do dream while in a coma. If you remember the dream is another question. But I do know someone who was in a car accident and was put into a coma. He said he had a dream that lasted the whole time he was unconscience. He went to the San Jose zoo with his family and learned ACTUAL facts from zoo keepers while sleeping. So maybe while in a coma your in a more advanced form of dream?

[Neko-san]

NO you cant.
Coma is a pathologycal (non-normal) state of the brain functions, that do not have the components of normal sleep
In normal sleep we have normally, what we call "four stages" that are defined by very clear cut "sleeping waves".
When we reach phase III, we start involuntarily moving our eyeballs, and we reach the maximum muccle relaxation, (the so called REM or Rapid Eye Movements). and in THIS period of REM, we do dream.... (you can see at times,people who are asleep, actually moving the eyeballs, as if " they were pursuing a moving object")
In coma, there is no sleep wave pattern, nor REM stage, and thus, there are no dreams by definition, and the electrical waves taken to comatose persons, do not show the typical IV phases of NORMAL sleep.
As you can see, dreaming ina coma, is utterly impossible, otherwise, it wouldnt be a coma
Source(s):
Licensed surgeon (Germany)

A quote from Yahoo Answers. I believe he is right..

[Mertruve]

He is right. Up to one in three people who recover claim to retain some memory of their time in coma. Their accounts depict a spectrum of experiences ranging from an absolute void to partial awareness within overall unconsciousness, much like dreaming during deep sleep.REM stage is present during the recovery process.

[Robot_Butler]

much like dreaming during deep sleep.


I think that is the key part. The experiences I've read have all seemed similar to NREM sleep, which would fit with what both Serinath and Neko-san are saying.

[moonshine]

I think that is the key part. The experiences I've read have all seemed similar to NREM sleep, which would fit with what both Serinath and Neko-san are saying.


Jesus, being stuck in Nrem would be horrible.

[ThreeLetterSyndrom]

Neko, never trust Yahoo answers. Your source isn't credible. For one, the spelling, but for two a 'source' who's a doctor in germany. I don't think it's very likely that this doctor is specialized on dream research and up-to-date. NonREM dreams do exist, dreaming isn't relying that much on your brainwaves...

So, I think you can dream in coma.

[Robot_Butler]

Jesus, being stuck in Nrem would be horrible.


It might not be that bad, especially if you did somehow manage to become lucid. NREM lucid dreams can be really peaceful and enlightening. I believe it is what the Tibetans call "Clear Light Dreams", and the state that many deep-trance meditations aim to achieve. I've heard people around here refer to it as "the void." Awareness without any sense of self or environment.

[moonshine]

It might not be that bad, especially if you did somehow manage to become lucid. NREM lucid dreams can be really peaceful and enlightening. I believe it is what the Tibetans call "Clear Light Dreams", and the state that many deep-trance meditations aim to achieve. I've heard people around here refer to it as "the void." Awareness without any sense of self or environment.

You know when you feel you've not slept, and instead thoughts have just raced round and round in your mind. Thats NRem.

[Mertruve]

Neko, never trust Yahoo answers. Your source isn't credible. For one, the spelling, but for two a 'source' who's a doctor in germany. I don't think it's very likely that this doctor is specialized on dream research and up-to-date. NonREM dreams do exist, dreaming isn't relying that much on your brainwaves...

So, I think you can dream in coma."Don't trust a doctor. Trust a random teenager." Check other sources. Scratch that, check the definition. Coma is a state of unconsciousness, end of story.

//edit: omfg

[ThreeLetterSyndrom]

"Don't trust a doctor. Trust a random teenager." Check other sources. Scratch that, check the definition. Coma is a state of unconsciousness, end of story.

Yeah well, you've got a point there ;)

Coma is a state of unconsciousness, end of story? I don't think so, as that wasn't the question. The question was whether you dream in coma or not :P

[spaceexplorer]

Yeah well, you've got a point there ;)

Coma is a state of unconsciousness, end of story? I don't think so, as that wasn't the question. The question was whether you dream in coma or not :P


from wikipedia:

In medicine, a coma (from the Greek κῶμα koma, meaning deep sleep) is a profound state of unconsciousness. A comatose person cannot be awakened, fails to respond normally to pain or light, does not have sleep-wake cycles, and does not take voluntary actions.

[KingOfTwilight]

There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.

I didn't think of this philosophy.

It's not real.

:D

[WolfeDreamer531]

Does anybody rememberhow hard it is to remember your dreams some nights after only being asleep for a few hours? Well, imagine trying to recall your dreams that after being in a coma for days, weeks, months, or years. Even if you could dream in a coma, I seriously doubt that the average person would (or could) remember dreams that they might have had in a coma.

[Elwood]

Did anyone read my post? That actually happened. Read it again if you didnt understand.

[xMoonlightx]

I have been thinking the same thing. This is all a dream and at the end of our life we will wake up and live all over again. But what if that were a dream?

[sleepless 2 nite]

wow xMx, that's pretty deep.

Kinda like looking in a mirror holding a hand mirror behind you ... with an infinate image, that repeats itself. Never ending.

Like a lucid dream that we have control over yet we still awaken from.

Where we learn not to repeat our mistakes and learn our true abilities from the prior dream.

All the while using this to inch ourself into becomming a perfect entity...

:cool: - sleep is good

[Newmoon]

I looked into this some years back. If I remember correctly there was no definitive answer. Some previously comatose individuals did dream while others did not. It was speculated that a number of different variables determined whether or not a person dreamed. These variables included things like how deep was the coma, what was the cause of the coma, and what kind of drugs were administered. It is my understanding that morphine produced some terrifying experiences.

[hellohihello]

I'd think it be more of an OBE type thing rather then a dream, you aren't really sleeping.

I don't really believe in OBE's though.

[sleepless 2 nite]

My buddy's son was shot in a gang drive by on Valentines day 8 years ago. (he's a basket case this time of year btw). They were having lunch together when it happened.

He tried to commit a drug induced suicide. Instead he went into a coma. He was comatose for seven days. He has vividly accurate memories of his sons funeral.

He says he saw it all from above. Right down to the flowers, who all was there, what was said and who was wearing what.

He said it was an obe. And that it flashed in his mind in a couple of seconds.

He woke up. Sat up. Pulled the hoses out of his nose and walked home. His wife freaked.

I'm not sure you can call that dreaming. But it sure is about beyond . . .

[Mertruve]

Some previously comatose individuals did dream while others did not.You can dream in the recovery period, because normal sleep occurs then. Coma is a state of unconsciousness.

[Newmoon]

You can dream in the recovery period, because normal sleep occurs then. Coma is a state of unconsciousness.

After rereading my reply today I see that I could have worded it better. What I had meant to say was that some of the individuals that had previously been in a coma have reported that they either had or had not dreamt while in the coma. I apologize if you had misread it to mean during recovery as that was not my intent.

If, however, you meant to imply that comatose individuals do not dream, I would like to remind you that unconsciousness is not a state of brain inactivity. That being said, I had mentioned that there is no definitive answer and that some individuals speculated that a number of different variables determined the outcome. I myself have seen no conclusive evidence to support it either way.

[Mertruve]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

[jereb]

There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.

If that is true, and Im the only living being in this world, what happens when I die, and more importantly, WHO OR WHAT IS UP THERE COOKING MY FOOD! I guess Im actually up there cooking my dinner, but Im on the computer at the same time. Creepy.

[WolfeDreamer531]

There is actually a philosophy that YOU are the only living thing in this world, and everything else, and i mean everything are just figments of your imagination.
In other words, if your talking to someone, then you just talking to a figment of imagination. Isn't that a bit scary to think about? Also, if you tell someone about this "philosophy" They will obviously say something like "I'm pretty sure I'm real," like Scott said. That could also be your mind making up something to cover up this philosophy.
Dont worry, Scott's just another DC trying to keep the secret under wraps. :D
If that is true, and Im the only living being in this world, what happens when I die, and more importantly, WHO OR WHAT IS UP THERE COOKING MY FOOD! I guess Im actually up there cooking my dinner, but Im on the computer at the same time. Creepy.
Sorry buddy, you're also another DC.:P

No, but for real, I would hope that this philosophy is not correct otherwise, I'd be a lonely mother f***er for eternity. I like the cosmic consciousness theory better.

[Quigin]

I was just wondering if you can dream while in a coma?
And more importantly if you can lucid dream while in a coma?

[lucidspark64]

well you could watch the comedy "Monkey Bone" which is about a guy that falls into a coma after being hit by a car or something and finds himself in a world where everyone goes to during their coma. Like a massive mutual-lucid dream.

He's a cartoon artist who has to fight with one of his own characters to get his body back before the doctors "pull the plug" for being under a coma for too long.

[dreamingofdreaming]

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=523&highlight=dreaming+coma

You can find your answer here :D

[no-Name]

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