Lucid Dreaming Officially Disproved!

[Man of Steel]

I'm sorry guys, but it seems that this site's whole reason for existence has just been disproved, as of March 28th. According to research scientists at the San Diego Institute for the Research of Sleep and Dreams, who have uncovered a ground-breaking technology for monitoring brainwave activity during REM periods, lucid dreaming is simply not real. They've discovered a method for mapping conscious and subconscious thought patterns using an electromagnetic interference field device, or EMIFD. This basically allows the scientists to discern whether a test subject is conscious within his or her dreams. Apparently the brain emits different signals depending on whether the conscious or subconscious is in charge.

What this means is that by comparing activity patterns, they can actually tell if a person is truly conscious and thus lucid in the dream, or if the subconscious is in control, deceiving the person into believing they are conscious. I'll let the press release speak for itself:

[...] First our scientists prepared the subjects by using various methods of suggestion, from mnemonic induction to hypnosis. The subjects were monitored over a period of two weeks, with daily naps in the early afternoon lasting approximately two hours being the main focus of observation. The electromagnetic interference field device was active from just before entering sleep paralysis until shortly after awakening. To the surprise of our research team, 70 of our 200 subjects claimed to have achieved a lucid dream within the first week, with another 32 joining those by the end of the second week.

An average of 8 lucid dreams per test subject were reported, however the monitoring equipment provided very different information. None of the test subjects exhibited any signs of transitioning from subconscious brainwave activity to the more intense and controlled patterns evident with conscious thought. Our equipment has been tested and calibrated to exacting standards, and we are certain of these results. In order to become 'lucid' within a dream, one's brain must shift from the usual—and somewhat random—subconscious activity that creates the dream world and makes it seem real, to a more 'awake' and logical pattern of activity common to consciousness.

This shift never occurred in any of our test subjects. Further interviewing by our panel of psychologists revealed that the so-called 'lucid dreams' experienced by the test subjects most often consisted of either the test subject carrying out an action or actions that they had planned to do if they 'became lucid', or simply becoming easily distracted and losing 'lucidity'. This causes us to believe that this 'lucidity' was nothing more than a construct of the subconscious mind, or, more simply, another dream. The subjects in fact dreamed that they became lucid within their dreams. This phenomenon is not dissimilar to the oft-experienced 'false awakening' which many of our subjects also experienced just before truly waking from their REM periods...

There is more, but that's the gist of it. I must say, this explains a lot. Here's the link to the press release. http://www.sdirsd.org/press/luciddreamstudy.html/

[wasup]

LOL!

Btw, broken link.

[FreeOne]

O_O its all a lie? wtf! :pissed:

[Delphinus]

That doesn't seem right. Just because it didn't look like concious thought doesn't mean its wrong.

[Elite]

LD's are real DON'T KILL ME :cry:

[slayer]

Can we really trust computers?

[Burns]

LOL doesn't say much for the "research scientists" at the San Diego Institute :roll:

[pj]

Sorry - I've been there and know it's real.

"Ya can't take that away from me..."

[Elite]

Sorry - I've been there and know it's real.

"Ya can't take that away from me..."

AGREED =]

[Delphinus]

Lol. I hate science sometimes.

[Aquanina]

This has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever read...lmao. I hope this is an April Fools Joke. :P

Oh...and score one for science!! LMAO

[Pensive Patrick]

Wonder what the Lucidity Institute has to say to this...

[pj]

Why is it the link doesn't work and I can't find anything about the San Diego Institute for Sleep and Dream Research?

I'd REALLY love to see the source, if you can fix that link.

[Marvo]

Yeah, I've done it, I know it is real.

[CT]

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6087/1206827242628la4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[wasup]

That picture made me crack up CT :P Dunno why...

[StephenT]

:lol: Very nice fake, MoS. ;)

[wasup]

:lol: Very nice fake, MoS. ;)

Indeed. So very obviously an april fools joke (as it was proven true)

[Delphinus]

It ain't april yet!

[StephenT]

Indeed. So very obviously an april fools joke (as it was proven true)

MoS's quote was proven true or lucid dreaming was proven true?

[Pensive Patrick]

Heh... nice try MoS.

Shame all that work produced a very short lived trick... oh well.

:D

I was fooled anyway...

[wasup]

MoS's quote was proven true or lucid dreaming was proven true?

Lucid dreaming was proven true...

[Moonbeam]

Good job, MOS--almost believable. I was going to say they should test people who are awake and see if they are conscious or not.

[Delphinus]

He should have made a website too, then some of you would believe it!

[StephenT]

Lucid dreaming was proven true...

Yeah, I had thought that I read about them proving it with coordinated eye movements or something.

[Goldney]

Indeed, it is fakery. A quick google shows no San Diego institute. Still, good one.

[StephenT]

Indeed, it is fakery. A quick google shows no San Diego institute. Still, good one.

Yeah, that's what quickly gave it away.

A better option would to be to give a real institute of dream/sleep/etc., then give the 404 error page. :lol: Then it will just seem like a bad link instead of having too much fake stuff.

[Burns]

haha well I fell for it. I didn't think MOS would EVER lead me astray :cry:


:wink: Nice one though!

[Mark75]

What're you all talking about? This isn't a joke. Didn't you read the website linked?

[Delphinus]

Is it fixed?

[Kromoh]

Lol MoS I'd love to see the source for that. You sure you got the right name? Hah I'd love to see what skeptic scientists have to say about lucidity. They proofs and whatnot.

Unless that whole thing is fake, then i'm killing you MoS lol

[RockNRoller123]

It's gotta be a joke. There's no institute, the link brings me to a crappy search thing, and I'VE HAD LUCID DREAMS! X]

Lol, nice one though, you really fucked me up there for a minute!

[Mark75]

Is it fixed?
It's working fine for me.

[Kiza]

Don't listen to Mark75, he's probably helping MoS to trick us all.

[Carôusoul]

Can we really trust computers?

yes

[27]

Heh, good one. I was going "how the hell does that disprove lucid dreaming?" :lol:

[RockNRoller123]

For a minute I thoght it was real...
So I guess I'm a spoon in the knife drawer.

[Carôusoul]

For a minute I thoght it was real...
So I guess I'm a spoon in the knife drawer.

Yeah.


I guess you are.

[spitfire riggz]

i dont know why i found this funny. but when this happend everyone was SURE that lucid dreaming was real. and here i am, no one believing in the ghosts or paranormal unless theres hard evidence...... and ppl telling me ignorance is bliss


ps. THIS DOESNT MEAN I DONT BELIEVE IN LUCID DREAMING!! THOSE PPL ARE ON CRACK

[Aquanina]

Yeah.

I guess you are.

that made me laugh

[Mes Tarrant]

Oh man, good thing it's a joke.. otherwise I might have been degraded to using useless arguments like, "But.. I know it's real because I've experienced it!" My god, that would have been the end of everything I hold dear in myself.

[Kromoh]

Oh man, good thing it's a joke.. otherwise I might have been degraded to using useless arguments like, "But.. I know it's real because I've experienced it!" My god, that would have been the end of everything I hold dear in myself.

Haha so right ^^

[RockNRoller123]

@Mes: that would make you a spoon in the knife drawer.

[ExoByte]

:doh:

[Xox]

Uhm it's not a joke..at least I don't think o.o

I went to the site, the link works perfectly fine for me. And the article seems real. :shock:

[Kiza]

Uhm it's not a joke..at least I don't think o.o

I went to the site, the link works perfectly fine for me. And the article seems real. :shock:

Hmm, it seems MoS has turned this into a team effort. I still don't believe him.

[suttsman]

Uhm it's not a joke..at least I don't think o.o

I went to the site, the link works perfectly fine for me. And the article seems real. :shock:

Weird, me too... But then again, I don't trust my computer after my escapades with worthless power in chat. :P

Either I'm doing the impossible, or people from San Diego are being stupid! :shock:

[Soldier]

very nice trick also explains why he hasnt responded yet. almost fell for it!

[Kiza]

Weird, me too... But then again, I don't trust my computer after my escapades with worthless power in chat. :P

Either I'm doing the impossible, or people from San Diego are being stupid! :shock:

MoS is building an army! I'm still not convinced.

(I'm gonna feel really stupid if this isn't an April fools.)

[wasup]

i dont know why i found this funny. but when this happend everyone was SURE that lucid dreaming was real. and here i am, no one believing in the ghosts or paranormal unless theres hard evidence...... and ppl telling me ignorance is bliss


ps. THIS DOESNT MEAN I DONT BELIEVE IN LUCID DREAMING!! THOSE PPL ARE ON CRACK

Difference: Lucid dreaming was *proven* real (as in, a real experiment that can be repeated and verified by others, as well as recognized within the scientific community and done by a respected and authentic scientist). "Ghosts and paranormal"... not so much.


Either I'm doing the impossible, or people from San Diego are being stupid!

The latter. If it were true, a simple email about the experiment proving lucid dreaming as true can completely invalidate what they "said."

[ExoByte]

This is a load of crock and shit. You'd be a moron to believe it. MoS, do you honestly believe people are dumb enough to take this bull seriously? I don't know whats more foolish, you for thinking people will believe it or those that do. You could've at least posted a working link to somewhere that seems to feed a bunch of LDing BS. And what the shit is with this whole new trend of posting April Fools shit before April Fools? To make it more believable? More predictable is what it is. At least its a good thing our community isn't entirely made up of dumbasses. Would be surprised if anyone here actually believed your bull.

Next time, use the name of some where that actually appears on Google.

[Xox]

This is a load of crock and shit. You'd be a moron to believe it. MoS, do you honestly believe people are dumb enough to take this bull seriously? I don't know whats more foolish, you for thinking people will believe it or those that do. You could've at least posted a working link to somewhere that seems to feed a bunch of LDing BS. And what the shit is with this whole new trend of posting April Fools shit before April Fools? To make it more believable? More predictable is what it is. At least its a good thing our community isn't entirely made up of dumbasses. Would be surprised if anyone here actually believed your bull.

Next time, use the name of some where that actually appears on Google.


Woah woah, calm down there Exo. There is no reason to be name calling in such a way.

You seem to know this is a "joke." Why are you flipping out like this? I suggest you calm down buddy. :?

Furthermore, no one is taking it seriously here besides you. Save this rant for one of your religious threads...

[ExoByte]

Don't give me any of that condescending bullshit. I don't care to hear it. You're part of this 'prank' as much as he is, so you have no say. I hereby declare you've both successfully failed. Take you're pitiful and empty attempts at a "joke" and piss off Xo.

[Mark75]

At least its a good thing our community isn't entirely made up of dumbasses.
Yes, that is a good thing, but sadly we get the occasional ExoByte who has a hard time choking down science that contradicts his beliefs. Sorry, kids, but you're all wrong. Deal with it.

[Xox]

Don't give me any of that condescending bullshit. I don't care to hear it. You're part of this 'prank' as much as he is, so you have no say. I hereby declare you've both successfully failed. Take you're pitiful and empty attempts at a "joke" and piss off Xo.

Uhm no, I am not part of this "prank." Although it's pretty funny to see you flip out over it. As i said, save this one of your religious rants. :roll:

[Soldier]

I think ExoByte is mad that people are gullible and that alot of people are using the april fools joke thing like all the mods stars disappearing, was it 3 or 4 people that dropped out? all at the same time. to me a aprils fool joke for the drop-outs seems possible but the mods (now members) are doing a dam good job making it seem real.

[ExoByte]

Uhm no, I am not part of this "prank." Although it's pretty funny to see you flip out over it. As i said, save this one of your religious rants. :roll:

Enjoy your laughs. You're both morons as far as I'm concerned, truly pathetic. The hypocrisy is clear. You obviously wanted people to take this seriously and believe the load of bull that you two excuses came up with and now you're getting it. Goddamn, whats stupider about you? The fact that you two came up with this sore excuse for a prank, or the fact that you're actually giving me crap for it now. Trust me, I'm the one laughing here.

[Xox]

Enjoy your laughs. You're both morons as far as I'm concerned, truly pathetic. The hypocrisy is clear. You obviously wanted people to take this seriously and believe the load of bull that you two excuses came up with and now you're getting it. Goddamn, whats stupider about you? The fact that you two came up with this sore excuse for a prank, or the fact that you're actually giving me crap for it now. Trust me, I'm the one laughing here.

I see now why you're not a DG anymore.

[spitfire riggz]

I see now why you're not a DG anymore.

yeah..... ive noticed hes isnt too helpful....:(

[ExoByte]

Fuck you. Like you know shit all about that. More that can be said for you, just another person who does shit on the board except walk around The Lounge and Senseless Banter. The fact that I was a DG is more than can be said for you or most people here. Don't give me you're empty, thickheaded bullshit. I don't need to hear or read about morons like you making blind assumptions about my position on the forum. I haven't been here for 2 years just to take shit from you.

Hugs and Kisses bitch.

[spitfire riggz]

dude, i didnt even know the lounge EXISTED up until yesterday. and jeez man, im sorry, im only a kid you know?.......... :(

[Burns]

Wow Exo. :shakehead2:

[27]

Chill Exo, it's obviously a badly executed prank but there's no need to be like that. Xox, I think you're last post was somewhat unnecessary.

[Xox]

Fuck you. Like you know shit all about that. More that can be said for you, just another person who does shit on the board except walk around The Lounge and Senseless Banter. The fact that I was a DG is more than can be said for you or most people here. Don't give me you're empty, thickheaded bullshit. I don't need to hear or read about morons like you making blind assumptions about my position on the forum. I haven't been here for 2 years just to take shit from you.

Hugs and Kisses bitch.



Wow, you're seriously accusing me of doing that? You're the one who's cursing every few words. Get a hold of yourself.

And you don't know what you're talking about do you? Of course you have no idea how many newb's I've constantly helped. But that's besides the point.

I highly suggest you get some anger management. I guess you're just mad. (And need I say why you're mad :rolleyes:, everyone knows.) But in all honesty, I'm sort of worried about you, because you used to be really cool man. I didn't expect this offensive shit from you.


And no 27, I don't think it was unnecessary!

[Mark75]

In before lock.

EDIT:

Also in before Xox starts crying.

[spitfire riggz]

well im hurt

[ExoByte]

Wow, you're seriously accusing me of doing that? You're the one who's cursing every few words. Get a hold of yourself.

And you don't know what you're talking about do you? Of course you have no idea how many newb's I've constantly helped. But that's besides the point.

I highly suggest you get some anger management. I guess you're just mad. (And need I say why you're mad :rolleyes:, everyone knows.) But in all honesty, I'm sort of worried about you, because you used to be really cool man. I didn't expect this offensive shit from you.


And no 27, I don't think it was unnecessary!

Yeah I'm just chock full of surprises huh? Save your worry, I don't need it from you. Be concerned about someone who gives a damn. I don't give a shit about you, so I don't think you should care about me thank you very much. Not that you're "sincerity" even means anything between your childish insults. Get a grip.

[Soldier]

ExoByte is pissed

[27]

This is uncalled for, Exo. There is seriously no reason to be this mad.

[Pastro]

This thread makes me sad :(

[StephenT]

:rolllaugh:

I'm pretty confident that Exo is laughing and joking while typing these posts. :lol: A sort of prank within a prank? I thought that it was well played. :clap:

Trust me, I'm the one laughing here.

[Mark75]

:rolllaugh:

I'm pretty confident that Exo is laughing and joking while typing these posts. :lol: A sort of prank within a prank? I thought that it was well played. :clap:

I'm guessing you're not in chat right about now.

[StephenT]

I'm guessing you're not in chat right about now.

No, am I missing something?

*Runs for chat!*

[Kromoh]

Lol Stephen I can't imagine ExoByte would joke to this point. Lol if I were staff I'd be biting my nails to ban him by now. I don't think anyone would risk that just for the lulz.

bad bad exo.. You were a nice guy when you were staff.

I agree with Xox.

[spitfire riggz]

No, am I missing something?

*Runs for chat!*

i noticed they took it to chat, i went in, and without even staying had a bad feeling, i zoomed the hell outta there

[Man of Steel]

Prepare yourselves for a massively long multi-quote post! Sorry for not responding sooner, I was at my sister's, had to come home, eat, tend to my neighbors' animals, tend to my own dog, go get a movie and a pint of buttered pecan ice cream (teehee) and then find time to connect on dialup.

This has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever read...lmao. I hope this is an April Fools Joke. :P

Oh...and score one for science!! LMAO

Ignorant or not, this new technology seems pretty darned cool. At first read I thought, "Heh, what are these bozos smoking," but then I got to seriously thinking about my own experiences, and it has some definite validity I think.

Wonder what the Lucidity Institute has to say to this...

I've emailed them regarding this, we'll see what sort of reply I get.

Why is it the link doesn't work and I can't find anything about the San Diego Institute for Sleep and Dream Research?

I'd REALLY love to see the source, if you can fix that link.

I'm not sure what's up with the link, it seems to work fine for some and not at all for others. It's currently intermittent for me, it works in Opera but not in Firefox or (ugh) IE. Dunno what the deal is, I'll try to find a redirect.

The SDIRSD is a branch of the Neurosciences Institute of San Diego. For some reason I can't find a link from their site, but like I said, I'm looking for a redirect.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6087/1206827242628la4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I am so stealing that pic... :D

:lol: Very nice fake, MoS. ;)

I thought so too, at first. now I'm not so sure. Fake or not, though, at least we can experience something, they did establish that. Even if it is only in our subconscious.

Good job, MOS--almost believable. I was going to say they should test people who are awake and see if they are conscious or not.

Well, they did. I should think that would be obvious, unless of course the link isn't working for you either..?

He should have made a website too, then some of you would believe it!

The site's right there, it's just temperamental. :P

Indeed, it is fakery. A quick google shows no San Diego institute. Still, good one.

See my response to pj. Also, who's that in your avatar this time?

haha well I fell for it. I didn't think MOS would EVER lead me astray :cry:


:wink: Nice one though!

I apologize for causing you to think I would lead you astray, Burns. This was not my intention. Something to keep you occupied in the meantime: Kttenwar: May The Cutest Kitten Win! (http://kittenwar.com/) ;)

Lol MoS I'd love to see the source for that. You sure you got the right name? Hah I'd love to see what skeptic scientists have to say about lucidity. They proofs and whatnot.

Unless that whole thing is fake, then i'm killing you MoS lol

Please don't kill me... :shock:

It's gotta be a joke. There's no institute, the link brings me to a crappy search thing, and I'VE HAD LUCID DREAMS! X]

Lol, nice one though, you really fucked me up there for a minute!

Hey, I guess there's a chance these 'scientists' are pulling an early April fool's on us, especially given the way the site keeps fluctuating between server not found errors and working perfectly, but from the information they provide, I just don't know.

Oh man, good thing it's a joke.. otherwise I might have been degraded to using useless arguments like, "But.. I know it's real because I've experienced it!" My god, that would have been the end of everything I hold dear in myself.

Well, not everything... :ohyahbaby:

Uhm it's not a joke..at least I don't think o.o

I went to the site, the link works perfectly fine for me. And the article seems real. :shock:

Finally, somebody the link worked for! What'd you think about the device itself? Pretty neat looking, eh? Looks like something out of Star Trek.

This is a load of crock and shit. You'd be a moron to believe it. MoS, do you honestly believe people are dumb enough to take this bull seriously? I don't know whats more foolish, you for thinking people will believe it or those that do. You could've at least posted a working link to somewhere that seems to feed a bunch of LDing BS. And what the shit is with this whole new trend of posting April Fools shit before April Fools? To make it more believable? More predictable is what it is. At least its a good thing our community isn't entirely made up of dumbasses. Would be surprised if anyone here actually believed your bull.

Next time, use the name of some where that actually appears on Google.


Wow Exo. :shakehead2:

:holyshit:

What Burns said. What's gotten into you, Exo? You're never this volatile. Not that I've seen, anyway. Everything okay, man?

[wasup]

Guys it's called MPMS (a particular strain of the ever-prevelant virus "PMS" that primarily effects males). Furthermore it is a situation of AFR-MPMS (april fools related MPMS). Move on, nothing to see here.

edit: I must applaud you MoS on your overwhelming commitment. Laudable efforts!

[Mark75]

The site works fine for me on FF. Try copying and pasting the link if it doesn't work.

[Pastro]

[Xox] 8:05 pm: Fine I guess the gig is up, this has all been a joke guys, Exo and myself figured we would entertain you all for a while!
[ExoByte] 8:06 pm: We could only do it for so long, i had a hard time keeping myself from laughing the entire time, well done Xox

[Kiza]

The site works fine for me on FF. Try copying and pasting the link if it doesn't work.

Still doesn't work.:?

[27]

[Xox] 8:05 pm: Fine I guess the gig is up, this has all been a joke guys, Exo and myself figured we would entertain you all for a while!
[ExoByte] 8:06 pm: We could only do it for so long, i had a hard time keeping myself from laughing the entire time, well done Xox
I never saw that. They're still fighting in chat.

[wasup]

I must say... it is goddamn surprising how EVERY SINGLE APRIL FOOLS people always fall for ridiculous things! Not to mention people STILL fall for stuff that has been identified as an april fools joke (MoS's thing... the site domain doesn't even exist guys :P) and ridiculous things that happen within an already identified april fools joke (exo). I understand being gullible... but do people never learn?

[Mark75]

Still doesn't work.:?
That's weird, it was working when I made that post, but now it won't go.

[Kiza]

I never saw that. They're still fighting in chat.

It was all a trick!? Those devious bastards!

[Aquanina]

I'm assuming this is a *bad* joke. Exobyte knows full well what will happen if he acts this way seriously.

[Man of Steel]

[Xox] 8:05 pm: Fine I guess the gig is up, this has all been a joke guys, Exo and myself figured we would entertain you all for a while!
[ExoByte] 8:06 pm: We could only do it for so long, i had a hard time keeping myself from laughing the entire time, well done Xox

Hard to believe that was a joke, seemed pretty real to me. I even PMed Exo about it.

[Pastro]

So I can say mean shit to people so long as it's a joke?

In that case, Spartiate is a tool.

[27]

Seems to serious to be a joke.

[wasup]

And it continues!

[AspirationRealized]

They've suceeded in creating a joke within a joke now.

They're distracting you from the original post joke.

[27]

If it is a joke I'm really going to feel stupid.

[StephenT]

So I can say mean shit to people so long as it's a joke?

In that case, Spartiate is a tool.

Fuck you! You're an ignorant ass hole. Why don't you shut the fuck up and stop being so fucking immature you dick head.

April Fools. :hug:

[wasup]

You know it's a REALLY CONVINCING JOKE when a joke is made right around a time when people make jokes, then people tell you it's a joke, and then within that joke another joke is made which is identified a joke off of the original joke but people still take it seriously.

[Xox]

Joke or not, Exo needs to grow up.

I don't exactly see the funny side in this... but I always seem to "miss" out on these sort of things.

[Pastro]

I see what you did there...

Fuck you! You're an ignorant ass hole. Why don't you shut the fuck up and stop being so fucking immature you dick head.

April Fools. :hug:

[TimeStopper]

Weell there are people who don't believe in lucid dreams.

And this would further their ignorance!

[27]

You know it's a REALLY CONVINCING JOKE when a joke is made right around a time when people make jokes, then people tell you it's a joke, and then within that joke another joke is made which is identified a joke off of the original joke but people still take it seriously.
So I'm somewhat gullible. Pretty much the only day you can't get me is April Fools Day.

[Edit]

It was a joke. I'm a moron.

[StephenT]

If it is a joke I'm really going to feel stupid.

:rolllaugh:

I'm pretty confident that Exo is laughing and joking while typing these posts. :lol: A sort of prank within a prank? I thought that it was well played. :clap:

Trust me, I'm the one laughing here.

:chuckle:

[Mark75]

I never saw that. They're still fighting in chat.
You never saw it because it wasn't there...

All of 8:05 - 8:06

[] 8:05 pm: Oh but I made the mistake of "giving a shit", because you used to be my friend. The idea seems hilarious now though.
[Pastro] 8:05 pm: Oh yeah? Well I had sex with your wife!
[DV Chat]: Kiza has left at 8:05 pm
[DV Chat]: Kiza has entered at 8:05 pm
[] 8:05 pm: Its always seemed hilarios actually
[] 8:05 pm: Wow, I just read the prank thread.
[Black_Eagle] 8:05 pm: Oh ya? Well I had sex with your great grand mother and her cat!
[Pastro] 8:05 pm: You leave my grandma's pussy out of this
[] 8:05 pm: That's disturbing.
[] 8:05 pm: Hilarious*
[Soldier] 8:05 pm: lol
[] 8:05 pm: Nice one, pastro.
[] 8:06 pm: All you can point out is my spelling huh?
[] 8:06 pm: sorry for making a typo
[Black_Eagle] 8:06 pm: punches Pastro
[] 8:06 pm: I forgive you
[27] 8:06 pm: you pointed out my spelling, Exo
[] 8:06 pm: Means a lot, really. -_-
[Stephent91] 8:06 pm: Stop the grannie sex talk, I wanna be able to focus on the Exo/Xox fight. I am also learning to be a lifeguard on an online coarse, so I can't stay in here too long at a time.
[] 8:06 pm: The rest was marked "bullshit" so I didn't read :)

[StephenT]

Weell there are people who don't believe in lucid dreams.

And this would further their ignorance!

:lol: Soooo far behind in this topic.

[Kiza]

If you check chat the fight is now over. Or not even started if it was a joke. Now I'm mightily confused . . . :?

EDIT: I'm a dumbass.

[Clairity]

Frankly Exo (and Xox if you truly were "in on it"), for jokes or laughs or whatever you were trying to accomplish.. your comments/language in this thread left a very bad taste with me.

I don't find name calling and cursing funny.. and tho I figured it might be "put on".. I found the whole exchange offensive.. and I'm not alone in this reaction.

[ExoByte]

:rolllaugh:

:hug: Xox!

:D

[Grod]

lolexo&xox

[Kiza]

I hate you so much Xox and Exo. I now feel very stupid.:P

[27]

I hate you so much Xox and Exo. I now feel very stupid.:P
Same.

[Burns]

I only like jokes when I'm in on them :P lol

[AspirationRealized]

I jsut had to check this out...

I'm on my parent's computer, and they seem to have an old version of IE running. The link works for me there, but not on the Firefox I usually use on here...

I don't have Opera, so I can't confirm with that... but this fucking sucks. I had trouble enough lucid dreaming, and now its just an elaborate subconscious global mindfuck?

[wasup]

Guyz im thinking that this could stil be tru. IF THIS IS TRUE THAN I WAS LIKE LYING TO MISELF WHEN I HAZD A LUCID DREAM. :( ! omg.

[Xox]

It was a prank. :cheeky: :hug:'s Exo.

Frankly Exo (and Xox if you truly were "in on it"), for joke or laughs or whatever you were trying to accomplish.. your comments/language in this thread left a very bad taste with me.

I don't find name calling and cursing funny.. and tho I figured it might be "put on".. I found the whole exchange offensive.. and I'm not alone in this reaction.

I'm sorry Clair. :( It was really meant to be a prank, we were both in on it equally. Exo and I are really sorry if this caused any bad taste.

[ExoByte]

I only like jokes when I'm in on them :P lol

If it makes you feel any better... I was tempted to PM you when you were shaking your head at me :P

[StephenT]

I hate you so much Xox and Exo. I now feel very stupid.:P

I feel smarter. :lol:

[Burns]

If it makes you feel any better... I was tempted to PM you when you were shaking your head at me :P
haha yeah, that does make me feel better! :D

[Abra]

OH GOD! EVERYTHING I'VE DONE IS A LIE!

THE LUCIDITY WAS A LIE!

THE ADVENTURE WAS A LIE!

THE CAKE WAS A LIE! [/Portal ref.]

[Soldier]

posted by Abra

THE CAKE WAS A LIE! [/Portal ref.]

nooooo i havent gotten their yet! no cake! thank for ruining it for me abra.

[Kromoh]

Hahah Exo and Xox this was a hell of a good prank :bigteeth: :imslow:

I can't believe you had me believe it. Especially after last december. Lol I feel stupid. But it was great :D Yeah maybe cursing was a bit too much, but it wouldn't have been remotely as true-sounding if it wasn't like that. haha I love the way you guys planned this so brilliantly xD Great work, you deserve congrats ^^

[StephenT]

The thing that had me thinking that it was a prank was how it was so sudden. It seemed to appear from nothing.

I had figured that Exo was either pranking, or that he was pretty drunk. :wino:

[AmazeO XD]

Haha.. MoS, your attempt to right a scientific document was horrible. But good prank!

[Spartiate]

So I can say mean shit to people so long as it's a joke?

In that case, Spartiate is a tool.

Inferiority complex.

[Mes Tarrant]

As an aside, whatever happened to doing pranks on April 1st? What's with all this March 29th prankage? Or is this sort of like opening one of your presents a couple of days before Christmas just to keep yourself from going nuts with waiting?

[Kromoh]

As an aside, whatever happened to doing pranks on April 1st? What's with all this March 29th prankage? Or is this sort of like opening one of your presents a couple of days before Christmas just to keep yourself from going nuts with waiting?

Lol maybe they thought we'd be dumb enough to have it last 'till the 1st xD

They were nearly right.

[Man of Steel]

As an aside, whatever happened to doing pranks on April 1st? What's with all this March 29th prankage? Or is this sort of like opening one of your presents a couple of days before Christmas just to keep yourself from going nuts with waiting?

I don't do April Fool's Day. It's silly and overdone. So today was good for me. ;)

[Pastro]

Inferiority complex.

I was only joking :blue:

[Pensive Patrick]

For God's sake. You'd think people would have learned their lesson after the whole "..." thing. Potentially destructive pranks are not good on DV. Although both times, it seems that Exo has been behind it. Why do you take so much enjoyment out of watching people be very angry at you?! :P




I only like jokes when I'm in on them :P lol

Heh. That made me laugh.

[pj]

He should have made a website too, then some of you would believe it!

It would certainly have been one more step toward believing that the "published research" was real. It would have done nothing toward settling the question over whether lucid dreaming is real or not or whether the "research" was any good. The next step would then be to find out who funds and backs the group - in other words, find out who owns them.

Good job - you took me to the first step of verification. It failed there, obviously.

[Lucid Seeker]

If it makes you feel any better... I was tempted to PM you when you were shaking your head at me :P

I see that things are much different when the tables are turned.

[ExoByte]

For God's sake. You'd think people would have learned their lesson after the whole "..." thing. Potentially destructive pranks are not good on DV. Although both times, it seems that Exo has been behind it. Why do you take so much enjoyment out of watching people be very angry at you?! :P

Hah. I'm masochistic, what can I say? :lol:

[Aquanina]

I pretty much knew it was a joke, because I know Exo, and I know he knows that he can't get away with speaking to members like that without getting in alot of trouble. Even still, I don't think the language was very appropriate.

I'm all for jokes as long as no one gets hurts, and I guess no one got hurt. But still...I don't like seeing that sort of language on our forum. Like Clairity, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I dunno....Exo...it just seems that you're almost too good at pretending to be an asshole. And well, it takes one to know one. Just makes me wonder a bit more about the sort of person you are. :P

[ExoByte]

:chuckle:

Thanks Neens :lol:

[Xox]

Exo's language was entirely my fault. I was the one who repeatedly kept on telling him to be really offensive. Basically when he was making the posts, I would tell him, "Call me names!" "Make sure to curse me out" etc etc.

So it's not really his fault at all.

Again, I'm sorry for leaving a bad taste in anyone after this. :(

[Kromoh]

How could Xox, in all her cuteness, leave a bad taste? nanah

:hug: I liked it Xox xD

Btw, is MoS part of the plan too, or did you two just take advanatage of the situation?

[Xox]

How could Xox, in all her cuteness, leave a bad taste? nanah

:hug: I liked it Xox xD

Btw, is MoS part of the plan too, or did you two just take advanatage of the situation?

Nah he didn't know about it in the beginning, but we jacked his thread. :hijack: So Exo told him about it.

[Lucid Seeker]

Exo, i know i'm a hypocrite to say it, but being that way to anyone without a good reason is uncalled for. I know intentions on your part were not to insult anyone, but to be honest, when most people are trying to take you seriously, it surprises them. If i were you i would cut back on these jokes before nobody takes you seriously at all.

[StephenT]

Bad taste or not, it was very well executed, and proved to be very convincing to most members.

I thought that it was funny, regardless of language. It was just a joke.

[Goldney]

Why can't a harmless prank just be a harmless prank? Why does everyone end up debating whether it was "right" or not?

Okay so Exobyte and Xox staged a mock-fight; it's not the end of the world. In fact it makes for entertaining reading of DreamViews.

[Lucid Seeker]

...entertaining reading of DreamViews.

This could be front page news for the DV Newsletter.

[Mes Tarrant]

^^ I agree (with Goldney). Exo has already been told by several people that the language was problematic. More and more people don't need to dog pile on him with the exact same remarks. But this is just a general message board pet peeve of mine.. a couple of people point out something really important, and then other people take advantage of the opportunity to lecture someone.

Everything in moderation.

[Lucid Seeker]

Meh, i suppose it was only a joke, enough of this DV Drama, we'll know not to take him seriously if he acts like that again.

[StephenT]

He'll come up with a new one.

[AspirationRealized]

Well, for all the people blaming him, here's one not.

Good job Xox and Exo.

[Siиdяed]

Damnit I MISSED DV DRAMA!

Will cry now.

[Spartiate]

I was only joking :blue:

Look at you, wallowing in self-pity.

[Kushna Mufeed]

Damnit I MISSED DV DRAMA!

Will cry now.
Ditto. I read the whole thread, though. It's interesting to see how everything developed in such a short time.

[Oneironaught]

The "excitement" never ends around here. I'm glad I missed yet another prank. It's more annoying than amusing, kind of like me.

[Kushna Mufeed]

The "excitement" never ends around here. I'm glad I missed yet another prank. It's more annoying than amusing, kind of like me.
Spartiate, THAT is wallowing in self pity.

[Oneironaught]

Spartiate, THAT is wallowing in self pity.
Umm, no?

[Spartiate]

Spartiate, THAT is wallowing in self pity.

See Pastro? Can't even do that well.

[Venomblood]

Consciousness is simply being aware. Even if you only "think" you were aware when you woke up, it doesn't matter. You were aware.

[Mes Tarrant]

Consciousness is simply being aware. Even if you only "think" you were aware when you woke up, it doesn't matter. You were aware.

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/fail-dogfood.jpg

[Xaqaria]

When I saw other people say this was a joke, and then couldn't get the link to work, I assumed it was too, but I managed to get the site to work while I was at home and it looks legit. If you think about it, it makes sense. Almost all induction techniques involve repetitive actions to tell yourself you are dreaming but really, the same kind of actions would work to induce specific events in normal dreams too. Basically, what you are really doing (if the site is right) is making yourself have a normal dream about knowing you are dreaming.

This would explain why even though we think we are lucid, we still think illogically and can't remember simple information like addresses or whatever, or even remember to remember them. How many times have any of you tried to do one of the monthly tasks and become lucid, only to completely forget to do the task? This is most likely because you incubated the thought "I am dreaming" but not the thought "do the task" and because you weren't actually conscious, you were unable to make the conection between dreaming and wanting to do the task.

[ExoByte]

Yet another:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8836/funnypicturesbirdcatcaght7.jpg

Nice try Xaq, but it would've worked better before MoS admitted the whole thing was a joke. :P

[Xaqaria]

Yet another:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8836/funnypicturesbirdcatcaght7.jpg

Nice try Xaq, but it would've worked better before MoS admitted the whole thing was a joke. :P

Huh, well he made a pretty convincing website then. I really didn't expect anyone to go to that much trouble for a joke thread in the lounge. How long did that site take you to make, MoS?

[Man of Steel]

The "excitement" never ends around here. I'm glad I missed yet another prank. It's more annoying than amusing, kind of like me.

Pfft, mine was actually good. And you know it.

Consciousness is simply being aware. Even if you only "think" you were aware when you woke up, it doesn't matter. You were aware.

You're a little late.

When I saw other people say this was a joke, and then couldn't get the link to work, I assumed it was too, but I managed to get the site to work while I was at home and it looks legit. If you think about it, it makes sense. Almost all induction techniques involve repetitive actions to tell yourself you are dreaming but really, the same kind of actions would work to induce specific events in normal dreams too. Basically, what you are really doing (if the site is right) is making yourself have a normal dream about knowing you are dreaming.

This would explain why even though we think we are lucid, we still think illogically and can't remember simple information like addresses or whatever, or even remember to remember them. How many times have any of you tried to do one of the monthly tasks and become lucid, only to completely forget to do the task? This is most likely because you incubated the thought "I am dreaming" but not the thought "do the task" and because you weren't actually conscious, you were unable to make the conection between dreaming and wanting to do the task.

You're even later. Props for trying to help, though. And that does make sense, probably better said than my original post actually.

Huh, well he made a pretty convincing website then. I really didn't expect anyone to go to that much trouble for a joke thread in the lounge. How long did that site take you to make, MoS?

Again, props for trying to continue the prank. However, we both know I made no site. :P


...or did I? :mwahaha:

:poof:

[Xaqaria]

Pfft, mine was actually good. And you know it.



You're a little late.



You're even later. Props for trying to help, though. And that does make sense, probably better said than my original post actually.



Again, props for trying to continue the prank. However, we both know I made no site. :P


...or did I? :mwahaha:

:poof:

Ehh, I must admit I didn't use your link because I just searched for it once I got home but I thought it was the same thing. It was some research organization in San Diego and the article was a dreaming study that they found evidence against lucid dreaming. I didn't really read the whole thing because I assumed it was the same one and was only checking if it was real. I guess it wasn't your link since you say you didn't make a website though, and maybe it wasn't as related as I thought from my brief glance. I'll look for it again.

[StephenT]

For a second I was tempted to go google for that, Xaq, but then my brain started working.