Apple Juice = Vivid dream?

[westonci]

I was going thorugh Digg and found this article that says Apple Juice Increases the production of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the brain.

Anyways acetylcholine is supposed to give you vivid dreams so Im gonna try it tonight and see what happens.

http://www.uml.edu/Media/PressReleases/Research_Shows_Benefit_of_Appl.html

[psychology student]

Interesting......though I drink tonnes of Apple Juice, and have never seen that effect. I must try though.

[westonci]

Last night i drank some Apple Juice after 5 hrs of sleep and I had some crazy dreams, and they where really vivid.

I'll try again tonight and see what happens

[psychology student]

Last night i drank some Apple Juice after 5 hrs of sleep and I had some crazy dreams, and they where really vivid.

I'll try again tonight and see what happens

I will try this tonight, report your results to.

[wildcat]

I was going thorugh Digg and found this article that says Apple Juice Increases the production of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the brain.

Anyways acetylcholine is supposed to give you vivid dreams so Im gonna try it tonight and see what happens.

http://www.uml.edu/Media/PressReleases/Research_Shows_Benefit_of_Appl.html

cool..ill try

[westonci]

i drank some last night after 6.5 hours of sleep went back to bed and had 2 Ld's and some really vivid dreams.

Im waiting for others to post there results, im feeling excited!!!!

[psychology student]

i drank some last night after 6.5 hours of sleep went back to bed and had 2 Ld's and some really vivid dreams.

Im waiting for others to post there results, im feeling excited!!!!

Cool, I know one other dude who will try it. I am doing so tonight.

[heumy]

i drank some last night after 6.5 hours of sleep went back to bed and had 2 Ld's and some really vivid dreams.

Im waiting for others to post there results, im feeling excited!!!!

Judging by your results so far, this is a good technique to add to my 2 pills of B6 a night to help increase the vividness of me dreams, and will hopefully give me my 3rd lucid in 5 nights.

[psychology student]

Yes, I tried it, it seems to work, I has 3 vivid dreams after a WBTB, and I have the brief memory of one lucid.

[I H8 Reality]

i'll try it tonight, it sounds good

[moe007]

Judging by your results so far, this is a good technique to add to my 2 pills of B6 a night to help increase the vividness of me dreams, and will hopefully give me my 3rd lucid in 5 nights.

I wouldn't recommend taking b6 daily.

The FDA's recommended value of daily b6 is measured in micrograms.. and we are taking up to 40000% of that requirement, weather it is in an energy drink or as a supplement to aid in lucid dreaming.

Its not good, and may cause you to develop nerve damage in the future.

As far as applejuice, I will try this asap. It sounds interesting.

[Denny22]

I tried this and some peanut buuet last night and remembered 3 dreams! However, I was so lazy to jot them them as soon as I recalled them all I can remember from them are the scenarios themselves with very little detail.

[Devastation Dj]

Wow. I just randomly drank apple juice last night and had 2 lucid dreams. It seems to work. They were both randomly induced. I just knew that I was dreaming, it was obvious to me.

[MindVoyager]

Wow. I just randomly drank apple juice last night and had 2 lucid dreams. It seems to work. They were both randomly induced. I just knew that I was dreaming, it was obvious to me.

Congrats Devastation! What was your experience with LD prior to these two Apple Juice induced ones? Did you take that Apple Juice at WBTB or before bed?

[I H8 Reality]

I had some really vivid dreams last night, but no LD. I think we should get a lot more people to try this and see the results

[Clairity]

Ok, I got some apple juice.. I actually got Gerber (baby) Apple Juice because it's made from freshly pressed apples and not a concentrate! :)

Here are my questions:

1) Do I drink it when I first go to bed or at WBTB?

2) How much do I drink? One full glass (or more or less)?

[psychology student]

Try during a WBTB,
and drink as much as you can.

[westonci]

Ok, I got some apple juice.. I actually got Gerber (baby) Apple Juice because it's made from freshly pressed apples and not a concentrate! :)

Here are my questions:

1) Do I drink it when I first go to bed or at WBTB?

2) How much do I drink? One full glass (or more or less)?

yes WBTB for sure. Apple juice will enter your body quickley because its easy to digest.

And most of your dreams are in the second half of the night so take it during WBTB.

[JollyRoger]

Wow I have got to try this one! ASAP

[Jeff_ray]

I tried it yesterday, but I only remember a Super Mario Galaxy dream in which Mario tried to get a star from an eel that freaked him out... would you say that's still good? :|

(Check journal for details)

[gagaku]

Apple juice? I guess it couldn't hurt to try!

[The Cusp]

I've heard that apple juice is more effective than coffee for keeping you alert.
But I don't drink coffee, so I wouldn't really know.

[Clairity]

I drank a cup of apple juice at my WBTB this morning at 4:00 am and did have a lucid dream which I will add to my DJ sometime later today. Sadly my recall wasn't that great but I will definately try the apple juice again tomorrow morning.

[Jamal]

wow! I can't wait to try this

[Clairity]

Just fyi.. I took two ginseng capsules with a cup of apple juice at 4 am and had two very vivid and recallable dreams (details can be found in my dream journal).

So far apple juice is definately something I'm going to continue to experiment with! :)

[LDhippie]

sounds like it would work so im going to try it sometime when i get A.J

[JSM]

Does it help me if I take it before sleep, not for WBTB ?

[I H8 Reality]

i doubt it, most of your NREM is in the first half of the night. So better to take it during WBTB

[dodobird]

According to the article abstract Acetylcholine levels were improved because of antioxidants. It suggests that antioxidants found in fruit and vegetables get digested better than antioxidant supplements. The study was funded by the U.S. Apple Association and the Apple Products Research and Education Council, so no wonder they tested apples, even though they are fruits and vegetables with more antioxidants than apples.

A quick google search for antioxidant rich fruits revealed these lists:
http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/top-10-antioxidant-rich-fruits-and-veggies/article16245.html
Fruits
1. Prunes
2. Raisins
3. Blueberries
4. Blackberries
5. Strawberries
6. Raspberries
7. Plums
8. Oranges
9. Red grapes
10. Cherries


Vegetables
1. Kale
2. Spinach
3. Brussels sprouts
4. Alfalfa sprouts
5. Broccoli flowers
6. Beets
7. Red bell peppers
8. Onions
9. Corn
10. Eggplant

http://drbenkim.com/articles-antioxidants.html
Rank Food Serving Size Antioxidant Capacity per Serving
1 Small red beans, dried 1/2 cup 13727
2 Wild blueberries 1 cup 13427
3 Red kidney beans, dried 1/2 cup 13259
4 Pinto beans 1/2 cup 11864
5 Blueberries, cultivated 1 cup 9019
6 Cranberries 1 cup 8983
7 Artichoke hearts, cooked 1 cup 7904
8 Blackberries 1 cup 7701
9 Dried prunes 1/2 cup 7291
10 Raspberries 1 cup 6058
11 Strawberries 1 cup 5938
12 Red delicious apple One 5900
13 Granny Smith apple One 5381
14 Pecans 1 ounce 5095
15 Sweet cherries 1 cup 4873
16 Black plum One 4844
17 Russet potato, cooked One 4649
18 Black beans 1/2 cup 4181
19 Plum One 4118
20 Gala apple One 3903

It seems that among fruit, berries are especially rich in antioxidants. I suggest that in addition to apples we try them and see if they affect dream vividness and lucidity.

[Namaste]

Apple Juice is yummy though :)

[MindVoyager]

Just fyi.. I took two ginseng capsules with a cup of apple juice at 4 am and had two very vivid and recallable dreams (details can be found in my dream journal).


Hopefully my ginseng order will arrive in the mail today...I'm looking forward to trying this.

[Clairity]

MindVoyager, and anyone else interested in trying ginseng, it would be best to get pure Panax ginseng if you can.

I got my ginseng at a local GNC store: http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2134129&cp=&sr=1&origkw=ginseng&kw=ginseng&parentPage=search (http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2134129&cp=&sr=1&origkw=ginseng&kw=ginseng&parentPage=search)

I'm sorry I didn't think to provide the ginseng info in my earlier posting.

[MindVoyager]

I'm sorry I didn't think to provide the ginseng info in my earlier posting.

Clairity,

Thanks. You had posted that info in another conversation with T. Yuschak. I had ordered the Panax Ginseng (although from a different producer: Source Naturals) based on that info. Regards.

[Clairity]

Clairity,

Thanks. You had posted that info in another conversation with T. Yuschak. I had ordered the Panax Ginseng (although from a different producer: Source Naturals) based on that info. Regards.

Oh good.. I'm glad! :)

[Misbijoux]

I'll definitely give it a try. I love apple juice!

Ok, I got some apple juice.. I actually got Gerber (baby) Apple Juice because it's made from freshly pressed apples and not a concentrate!

Have you ever tried the Simply Juices? They have a Simply Apple Juice. It's pure pressed, and not from concentrate (I don't like buying juices made from concentrate).

[Zackk]

According to the article abstract Acetylcholine levels were improved because of antioxidants. It suggests that antioxidants found in fruit and vegetables get digested better than antioxidant supplements. The study was funded by the U.S. Apple Association and the Apple Products Research and Education Council, so no wonder they tested apples, even though they are fruits and vegetables with more antioxidants than apples.

Edit: Doesn't green tea have a whole lot of antioxidants? If antioxidants cause vivid dreams, I would try a cup of green tea after a wbtb.

I wonder if I ate an apple during a wbtb would it have the same effects?
Lots of apples but no apple juice :P
No harm in trying I guess.

Since I have no apple juice I will try green tea tonight and post my results.

[Clairity]

Have you ever tried the Simply Juices? They have a Simply Apple Juice. It's pure pressed, and not from concentrate (I don't like buying juices made from concentrate).

I don't like juices from concentrates either.. thanks for letting me know about Simply Apple Juice! :)

[Torrent]

I'm no expert, but I think it's safe to assume that it's the vitamin B6 in the apple juice that helps with dream vividness. My guess is that instead of pills with huge amounts, it's a moderated amount, which is good for healthy vividness in dreams?

[Licity]

I can confirm that apple juice may just work when it is taken just before bed. Last night I drank an 8oz glass at 11:30, but didn't get to sleep until at least 2:30. I took a sleeping pill designed to last 4 hours. I had the first lucid dream where I was able to control my actions, although to be fair, it was about 3 seconds of feeling the table in front of me to keep that lucidity.:P

I don't remember most of that dream, but I know that at the very end of it, I was lucid very briefly before my own excitement woke me up, heart pounding. The clock read 8:00. That was about 5.5 hours in, or 90 minutes past the sleeping pill wearing off.

It's hardly conclusive evidence of the apple juice working, considering it was an isolated incident, but I thought it might be worth mentioning, especially because it was the first LD I've had in years.

P.S.

I was drinking Treetop brand apple juice from concentrate.

[Halocuber]

Dang , I HATE apple juice =( but drinking a Energy drink right before I fall asleep ALWAYS gives me amazing dreams.

[dodobird]

Edit: Doesn't green tea have a whole lot of antioxidants? If antioxidants cause vivid dreams, I would try a cup of green tea after a wbtb.

I wonder if I ate an apple during a wbtb would it have the same effects?
Lots of apples but no apple juice :P
No harm in trying I guess.

Since I have no apple juice I will try green tea tonight and post my results.

According to the article apples are as effective as apple juice. they are certainly healthier. Two apples are recommended there for good antioxidant effect.

[I H8 Reality]

According to the article apples are as effective as apple juice. they are certainly healthier. Two apples are recommended there for good antioxidant effect.

Galantamine inhibits the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine right?

Apple juice produces more acetylcholine in th brain.

So do they have the same effect?

[dodobird]

Galantamine inhibits the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine right?

Apple juice produces more acetylcholine in th brain.

So do they have the same effect?

If I understood correctly the article abstract, apples do not increase acetylcholine levels, but help in improving memory and cognitive functioning by defending the brain against free radicals.
So no, they do not have the same effect.

[harvey123456]

If I understood correctly the article abstract, apples do not increase acetylcholine levels, but help in improving memory and cognitive functioning by defending the brain against free radicals.
So no, they do not have the same effect.

"Animal research from the University of Massachusetts Lowell (UML) indicates that apple juice consumption may actually increase the production in the brain of the essential neurotransmitter acetylcholine, resulting in improved memory".

[Robot_Butler]

We just happen to have a ton of apple juice boxes that have been sitting in our fridge. I'll give it a shot tonight.

[harvey123456]

We just happen to have a ton of apple juice boxes that have been sitting in our fridge. I'll give it a shot tonight.

Drink two cartons at once.

[dodobird]

"Animal research from the University of Massachusetts Lowell (UML) indicates that apple juice consumption may actually increase the production in the brain of the essential neurotransmitter acetylcholine, resulting in improved memory".

The article that refernece the reasearch is misleading.
According to the original article abstract, they gave the mice a poor diet, designed to reduce acetylcholine levels by process of oxidation.
The mice that were given apples, showed less acetylcholine reduction because the antioxidants prevented some of the oxidation damage.

So what this research say is that on mice antioxidants are effective in preventing oxidation and cognitive damage when an oxidation prone diet is consumed.

So it should not affect acetylcholine levels unless you eat a very bad diet, in which case it may help reduce damage to the cognitive functioning.

That said, I'm curious as anybody here to hear more reports on whether the apples affect vivid dreams and lucidity.

[Robot_Butler]

My time at DV has proved to me that eating any delicious food during a WBTB will give me vivid dreams. Tasty, nutritious placebos.

[harvey123456]

My time at DV has proved to me that eating any delicious food during a WBTB will give me vivid dreams. Tasty, nutritious placebos.

On that thought, I hear doughnuts cause a Dopaminergic surge in the brain.

[Niddiboy]

Just fyi.. I took two ginseng capsules with a cup of apple juice at 4 am and had two very vivid and recallable dreams (details can be found in my dream journal).

So far apple juice is definately something I'm going to continue to experiment with! :)



Ginseng ey? thats like herbal viagra for men :D I duno if i wana try that but seing as most guys wake up pitching a tent, i dont see what the problem could be :lol:

[Robot_Butler]

Ginseng ey? thats like herbal viagra for men :D

I could say the same thing about galantamine ;)

[SKA]

What a coincidence we have Applejuice in the house now. Haven't had it in years I swear. Gotta give this a try.

[Clairity]

What a coincidence we have Applejuice in the house now. Haven't had it in years I swear. Gotta give this a try.

Well I'd say that was a definite sign for you to give it a try! :D

[Niddiboy]

Ok guys. I dont know if this is related in any way but i had my first lucid in quite a long time and i drank 2 glasses of apple juice about 30mins before bed... i also had alot of chocolate so its anyone's guess!

But im gona try it tonight but without chocolate. I think it is a placebo but i think positive thinking is the way!

:D:D:D

[lance_r]

Try during a WBTB,
and drink as much as you can.

So drinking apple juice after you wake up in the night will help induce a LD?

[Licity]

At the very least, it appears to increase dream vividness.

Its possible its just a placebo though.

[harvey123456]

So drinking apple juice after you wake up in the night will help induce a LD?

According to the OP of this thread it may help.

[wwe101]

ill try this tonight!!!! i havent had any recall in like 3 weeks and no lucid in over a month. grrrhhh, hope this helps

[RockNRoller123]

Holy crap!!! Apple juice works! I tried it and I didn't get lucid, but the juice caused the CRAZIEST dream I've had in a LONG TIME. If you wanna read it theres a link in my signature.

[Clairity]

Holy crap!!! Apple juice works! I tried it and I didn't get lucid, but the juice caused the CRAZIEST dream I've had in a LONG TIME. If you wanna read it theres a link in my signature.

Congrats! :D

Did you drink a full glass at bedtime or did you WBTB?

[RockNRoller123]

Glass before bed. I'm going to try again tonight.

[Clairity]

Glass before bed. I'm going to try again tonight.

So will I! :D

[reality<LDs]

I drank apple juice before i went to bed (2 normal plastic cups worth) and when i woke up at 5 am (another 2 cups)
and i had 2 lucids! :banana:
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:boogie::boogie::boogie:
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:boogie::boogie::boogie:

[nechong]

i drank 1 cup of apple juice after i woke up around 6am but no ld and no vivid dream as well.

[archdreamer]

Went to bed at 1am last night, with a big glass of apple juice on my desk. Alarm went off at 04:30, and I drank it down. I didnt notice any additional vividity last night, however. I'll try again tonight.

[archdreamer]

Tried it again last night. Bed at 1am, alarm at 5:30, drank a glass of apple juice. Later that night (around 8:30), I had a DILD/FA where I felt, in an ND, that I was about to awaken, but the dream stabilised. My dream self, however (still in the dreamscape - a shopping center) thought I was awake, and I reached for my DJ, which was on a bench. I then became lucid when I realised that I was just about to totally waste my time. I'm not sure if my dreams were any more vivid than usual, although I did experience definite temperature sensations (I was in an oven in the ND (there was a restaraunt where you cook yourself), and went outside to feel the breeze in the LD, and felt the temperature change in both. My DJ was about 5-6 (written) A5 pages long, with 1 LD, the ND that led into it, and pretty reasonable fragments from another ND, which is more than usual.

[Misbijoux]

I've drank apple juice the last couple of nights, and have had lucids. Dont know if it's the apple juice, or the peanute butter or the chocolate or the B6 I take, lol. I have at least one lucid dream a night. Apple juice rocks, though!:D

[WolfeDreamer531]

I dont have AJ, I might go get some today. But I do have this Rockstar coffee & Energy drink mix that has the following:

-vitamin B5
-vitamin B6
-vitamin B12
-Panax Ginseng Extract
-caffeine (of course)

Im taking 6mgs of Melatonin when I go to bed tonight and will drink that^ when I do a WBTB tomorrow!!! So I should pretty much expect a nice, vivid LD tomorrow if Im lucky!:D

[Lyikos]

I checked it's nutrition data here: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1822/2

It's reported to contain a small amount of Choline and B6. Perhaps that's the culprits? B5 data isn't listed, but could be present as well.

[Exiled25]

this sounds cool ill try it and post tomorrow

[kaeraz]

After reading up on this post yesterday, I decided to give a try last night.

I purchased a little bottle of generic apple juice from concentrate and put it on my bookshelf next to my bed. I also decided to step it up a notch and placed two B6 pills there as well. I can't remember the exact milligrams, but it's the typical amount for one pill.

I went to bed around 10:30. I woke up at 3:30. Went to the bathroom. Drank most of my juice and ingested the two B6 pills. Wrote down a dream I'd had. Drank the rest of the juice. Went back to sleep.

Woke up around 6:00. No remembered dreams. Went back to sleep. Had several dreams and one distinct lucid! :)

I'll probably try it again tonight.

[Illusi0n]

Two nights ago before go to sleep i drink a glass of apple juice, in the 3 dreams that i remember i did 4 Reality Checks and i didn´t become lucid...:P Altough, my dreams that night were so vivid and crazy that was impossible to not remember.

[-Blakren-]

Shweet! I shall know go on an all apple diet :D <----:roll:

[MrGrEmLiN]

It's funny, one of these nights I had a glass of apple juice and had pretty vivid dreams. But then again, I've been getting them lately anyway. I will take 2 glasses now, though, since I'm about to go to sleep. I'll report back my results if I remember to (surely will since the apple juice is good for memory too :D)

[capoopy]

wow i never heard about this before but based on the results ppl are posting ill try it out :)

[SomeDreamer]

I tried this not so long ago after reading this thread... and I did indeed have very vivid dreams that night! Gonna give it another go tonight ;)

[Lyikos]

Holy crap, this stuff really works. I took to glasses before bed and one at WBTB and was easily able to slip into REM during my last 4 hours of sleep. I had one dream that was so vivid I thought it actually happened until I thought about it carefully an hour after waking up!
This worked better for me than most of the stuff listed at the Herb/Drug Repository.

[Sentaku]

Do you think if I do the Sleep 6 hours-Awake for 90 minutes-nap for 90 minutes and drink the apple juice before the nap for 90 minutes would it prove to be useful?

[egizmo]

wow.. sounds great. ill have to try that somtime soon:)

[ChaybaChayba]

How about apples? Or does it need to be apple juice?

[egizmo]

im going to try tonight, ill post results tomorrow:)

[Misbijoux]

How about apples? Or does it need to be apple juice?

I wonder.
I had half a granny smith apple (w/peanut butter), last night, and was able to WILD early this morning (3am). I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the apple I ate six hours before, but it makes me wonder.

[egizmo]

i didnt notice any difference:P

[Sentaku]

Ya, I drank half a litre of apple juice before going to bed and nothing. If anything it made my recall worse.

[Dreamcatdher618]

I was going thorugh Digg and found this article that says Apple Juice Increases the production of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the brain.

Anyways acetylcholine is supposed to give you vivid dreams so Im gonna try it tonight and see what happens.

http://www.uml.edu/Media/PressReleases/Research_Shows_Benefit_of_Appl.html

Well, yesterday I had this incredibly odd yet brightly colored dream and hours before I drank a 10.oz bottle of apple juice

[Shift]

I am having very good results with apple juice. I guess it's a bit too early to tell if it's just a placebo effect, but I've added the DJ entries into my online journal so that you can see how long and vivid the dreams are getting because of the juice: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showpost.php?p=882521&postcount=7 Thanks for posting about this!!!

[LucUltra]

Well as far as I've read in this topic, no one really tried eating some apples before going to sleep.. I'll do that then :) No WBTB (got only 6 hours left to sleep tonight.. different time zone), but I'll post my results.

Edit: just ate 2 apples (were pretty small ones though). Results posted tomorrow.

[Misbijoux]

Well as far as I've read in this topic, no one really tried eating some apples before going to sleep.. .


Ummm...if you read my reply, I did. I ate a granny smith apple before going to bed. Since then, I've eaten several apples before dozing off.

[Shift]

Ummm...if you read my reply, I did. I ate a granny smith apple before going to bed. Since then, I've eaten several apples before dozing off.

What have the results been since your last post?

[Misbijoux]

What have the results been since your last post?

Some nights I become lucid, some nights I don't. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the apples I've eaten, though. I do take 100mg of B6, almost every night. Plus, I drink or eat an apple before dozing off.

[LucUltra]

Oh I'm sorry misbijoux. Guess I missed that post.
Unfortunately I had no results tonight (couldn't get to sleep until around 5:30AM.. BIG thunderstorm lol) with the apples, will try apple juice with WBTB tonight.

[LucUltra]

Going to try 1 big glass of apple juice tonight in a WBTB. Posting results tomorrow.

Edit: woke up at 5:30, but couldn't get to sleep anymore :( Had nothing to do with the apple juice though.

[peppy]

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG, I got my first LD in ages from drinking 600ml of apple juice before bed. (i thought if i drank more before bed it would still work and i wouldnt ave to wake u in the middle of the night and drink :P)

[IndigoGhost]

I will try it, thou i am very sceptical.

My thoughts are that it is the Placebo effect, but thats a good way to try an experiment because if you balieve it wont work and it dose then you have a rock solid conclusion.

[archdreamer]

I will try it, thou i am very sceptical.

My thoughts are that it is the Placebo effect, but thats a good way to try an experiment because if you balieve it wont work and it dose then you have a rock solid conclusion.


Well, strictly speaking, you'd be better off not knowing whether or not it will work, or even if you actually had the actual stuff at all cf. double-blind studies.

[Shift]

I just did it again and had brilliant results. The dream was loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnng!!! and vivid! I had about a cup of AJ and 3/4 a dark chocolate bar during wbtb after five hours.

I don't care if it's placebo, it just keeps working! We need a dancing apple smiley now!

[IndigoGhost]

Did nothing for me, 3 Trys now, maybe its just the fact that i havent had my first lucid yet thats stopping it from working thou.

AJ + Choline = Fail for me :/

[Shift]

Did nothing for me, 3 Trys now, maybe its just the fact that i havent had my first lucid yet thats stopping it from working thou.

AJ + Choline = Fail for me :/

Well it helps me for all dreams, not just lucids. It makes regular dreams especially vivid, which can help with DILDing.

[ladoys]

Holy Hell look at all these positive responses!

[little android man]

cant wait to try this after seeing all of these outcomes.

maybe this will help me get my first LD.

[shalomsalaam]

I'm all out of applejuice, but I've got lots of applesauce! Gonna try that

peace,
shalom salaam

[Imac]

Time to whip out the juicer...

[Imac]

Dang , I HATE apple juice =( but drinking a Energy drink right before I fall asleep ALWAYS gives me amazing dreams.

I'd start apologizing to your heart...

[Jorge]

LOL you know it's funny I was reading when people said oh what a coincidence of me having some apple juice! But I got another coincedince, we ran out of water today and all we had was apple grape juice and that's all I drank today!

Unfortunatly I drank all the apple juice during the day, and now I can only drink grape juice during my wbtb, I'm psyched about this!

I will report my results tomorrow morning!

[Cipher_Floe]

HOLY SH*T

I just logged on to report my very first lucid dream I had two nights ago... I've been trying to have one for about 6 months now.

Anyways...

I logged on, and saw this topic... Apple Juice = Lucid Dream

I just recently started college and live with 3 other people. I've never been drunk and have only had alcohol a few times. Then I remembered that night I had my very first LD we were all out of coke, and didn't want water because I had been drinking it all day. So I took some of my roommate's apple juice, mixed it with some spiced rum and some other things... basically I made myself cider.

I do believe we have something here... although my lucid dream was me on my computer messing around with files and moving them, but I couldn't move...and I was lying in bed. My computer screen was giant and hovering above me and transparent. It only lasted for about 15 seconds.

Also, I felt strong vibrations before I had my LD. It was as if the vibrations took me to the LD... and never doubted it being a dream... like, I didn't have the dream and wake up in it, I just "woke up" and was like, wow, this is what a LD is like. Then went back into a deep sleep.

So basically it was like I decided to have a LD.

[kaeraz]

I'm happy to report another lucid dream from apple juice!

Here's how it went down:

I went to bed around 10:00 with a 15.2 ounce bottle of Tropicana 100% AJ on the bookshelf next to my bed. I set my alarm to wake me up at 3:30. When I woke up, I drank most of the AJ - probably around 12.0 ounces - then immediately went back to sleep. No techniques. No thinking about lucid dreaming. I was out about 15 seconds after I finished drinking. I had reset my alarm to wake me up at 5:30. When I woke up, I remembered a vague dream, but no lucids. I reset my alarm to wake me up at 6:30. During that hour, I had a fairly long, vivid, and controllable lucid! My alarm woke me up during it so I never got to fly that plane with no wings, but other than that it worked as far as I can tell!

I'm really liking this. I'll try again tonight!

[Jorge]

So I try this last night, but if you read my post I said I ran out of Apple Juice and only had grape juice...So I pour half a cup of grape juice and leave it on my dresser.

I went to bed around 11 and I set my alarm for 4:30a.m.

I woke up went to the fridge and poured the other half in the cup, so it won't be *cold* and won't be *hot* so it was regular temperature.

I drink it and go back to sleep..zzZzz....zzZzz....zzZzz...zzZzz...zzZzz...

I had Lots of dreams! Unfortunately non-lucid ones, but I did have a sexual one ;-D I also had a real emotional one. I had 3 friends in my dream and we were being shot at, and 1 died, and I was crying real bad, it was weird I was half a sleep and half awake, so I knew I was crying in real life, but yet I felt like I was in my dream??? LOL Weird!

So my point is that Grape Juice might have a effect as well, I'm gonna try again, and see where it takes me. I want to try apple juice, but as for anyone not having apple juice but only grape juice...just do it!

I had more dreams I didn't mention here, but it was non interesting anyway.

[westonci]

So I try this last night, but if you read my post I said I ran out of Apple Juice and only had grape juice...So I pour half a cup of grape juice and leave it on my dresser.

I went to bed around 11 and I set my alarm for 4:30a.m.

I woke up went to the fridge and poured the other half in the cup, so it won't be *cold* and won't be *hot* so it was regular temperature.

I drink it and go back to sleep..zzZzz....zzZzz....zzZzz...zzZzz...zzZzz...

I had Lots of dreams! Unfortunately non-lucid ones, but I did have a sexual one ;-D I also had a real emotional one. I had 3 friends in my dream and we were being shot at, and 1 died, and I was crying real bad, it was weird I was half a sleep and half awake, so I knew I was crying in real life, but yet I felt like I was in my dream??? LOL Weird!

So my point is that Grape Juice might have a effect as well, I'm gonna try again, and see where it takes me. I want to try apple juice, but as for anyone not having apple juice but only grape juice...just do it!

I had more dreams I didn't mention here, but it was non interesting anyway.

I noticed that when I drink apple juice before sleep I always get emotional dreams about a random girl i fall in love with.

[RunflaCruiser]

interesting. I'm gonna buy some aj

[Matthew]

Because I didnt have any apple juice i used grape juice and had similar results. although it didnt induce lucidity it increased vividness and recall by an amazing amount

[EchoSun13]

I was told its a placebo.
Like peanut butter, and dark chocolate.


Is it true?

[Jorge]

I tried apple juice, and my recall was actually worse, it could be a coincidence, and I am definately trying again.

[smcmaho]

I tried apple juice for two nights and it did nothing for me. I actually didn't remember any dreams, those two nights.

But last night was totally different.


I went to bed about 9:30. Listened to some music and put myself in a trance-like- state. (not to be confused with SP) I was just very relaxed and fell asleep around 10ish. Woke up at 1 and drank a whole glass of Simply Apple, juice and went back to sleep. Then I woke up at 4 and only could remember 1/2 of a dream I had, so i just wrote down some key points and went back to sleep. After that, I woke up at 5:30 to discover I recalled 6 Whole Dreams!

It took me 25 minutes just to write them all down. All of the dreams/recalls were good-to-excellent quality! i'm going to try this again for sure, but only every week or so. I dont want to start a mental dependence for it.

[XenonRadon]

After reading this thread last night, I had a glass of AJ before bed. This morning between 7 and 9 I had the longest, most detailed dream I've recalled in years.

[Matthew]

I was told its a placebo.
Like peanut butter, and dark chocolate.


Is it true?

idk about peanut butter, but dark chocolate has caffeine, which is a psychoactive stimulant, that is definitely not a placebo

[EchoSun13]

Oh, well thanks.

I just ate dark chosolate too..:)

[Gez]

:(Dammit, no apples or apple juice in the entire house

[Jorge]

I drank before I went to sleep, and I was gonna wake up to drink another cup but dam, alarm clock didn't work...will try again.

[Shift]

I drank before I went to sleep, and I was gonna wake up to drink another cup but dam, alarm clock didn't work...will try again.

I've found that drinking it before bed doesn't do much, I'd save the AJ for later on in the night and conserve it, especially if you don't have a lot of it :tongue:

[heumy]

Had an LD a couple of nights ago after a drank 2 cups of AJ with ice before bed. It was quite vivid and nice. No results last night though.

[weeedoodle]

I'l have to give this a shot next time I have some apple juice...or apples. I'm all out at the moment, unfortunatly.

[lagunagirl]

ooh i'm excited now. I have bananas, dark chocolate, and apple juice! :banana: I'm ready to have some vivid dreams!! which will hopefully lead to lucid ones :boogie:

[TheMoon]

Well apple juice normally contains a lot of vitamins, b6, b12 ect.

Has anyone tried apple cider vinegar.

I'm not sure if it helps me lucid dreaming or normal dreaming how ever.

I just like drinking Apple Cider Vinegar straight from the bottle, tastes so damn good.... *mouth waters*

Also helps with acid indigestion, or heart burn.

[Jorge]

ooh i'm excited now. I have bananas, dark chocolate, and apple juice! :banana: I'm ready to have some vivid dreams!! which will hopefully lead to lucid ones :boogie:



Are banannas suppose to aid with Lucid Dreaming, cuz I'll whip up an Bananna Juice Apple Smoothie at 4 in the morning! :lol:

[nitsuJ]

Are banannas suppose to aid with Lucid Dreaming, cuz I'll whip up an Bananna Juice Apple Smoothie at 4 in the morning! :lol:

They would I think, although it may be a small increase in chance.

[lagunagirl]

Are banannas suppose to aid with Lucid Dreaming, cuz I'll whip up an Bananna Juice Apple Smoothie at 4 in the morning! :lol:

yeah there's a whole list of lucid foods, bananas are just easy to get a hold of and also to eat at 3am. Except whenever I wake up from a vivid dream in the middle of the night, if I write it down then go back to sleep I'll have a lucid dream right after, so I usually just eat the banana before I go to sleep so that I'll have a vivid normal dream which will lead to a lucid one. :) yeah it took me a while to figure that one out, but it's my best technique, however personalized it may be.

[Jorge]

Could someone post here a list of foods that help with lucid dreaming, even a little bit will help
!

[nitsuJ]

Could someone post here a list of foods that help with lucid dreaming, even a little bit will help
!

There are various foods and drinks that you can consume which seem to have some effect on sleeping and dreaming. Note that for most of these there is no explanation or scientific study of how they work, and some may simply be placebos.

Don't go overboard with the consumption of any of these, as overdosing could have nasty effects (well, milk should be safe unless you're allergic). Don't experiment without accumulating enough knowledge first. The authors in no way encourage the use of legal or illegal drugs.

* The amino acid tryptophan, which can be found in warm milk amongst other sources, is a precursor for the hormone serotonin, and has been proven to help you fall asleep.
* Vitamin B6 and others of the B group are important for neuronal functions.
* Melatonin is another hormone with neuronal effects.
* 5-HTP or L-5-HTP is a supplement that is related to serotonin, which some claim has induced lucid dreaming on approximately half the nights it is taken.
* Caffeine is useful in WILD Techiques as it helps the mind stay focused and think vividly. Please notice that caffeine is an addictive substance and may have negative effects on your health.
* An Amino Acid Blend made up of 2000mg L-aspartic acid, 4000mg L-glutamine, and 300mg L-theanine can substantially increase your odds of having a Lucid Dream.
* Galantamine - acetylcholinesterase inhibitors extract from plants such as Lycoris radiata (Red Spider Lily) or from chemical synthesis.

Some people who practice Lucid dream (LD) or Out of body experience (OBE) use Galantamine to increase their odds to achieve LD or OBE. By taking small amount of Galantamine (around 4 to 8 mg) after 5 to 6 hours of deep sleep and practice the induction technique such as Meditation, MILD or WILD many people report more sucess with Galantamine.

There also report that taking Galantamine without proper induction technique will not lead to LD or OBE but will result in only a vivid dream instead. It should also be noted that due to a long half life Galantamine will stay in the body for a period of up to and over 48 hours, as such it is advisable to space out the use of Galantamine over a period of three days so that the body does not build a resistance to the drug ruining its effectiveness.

Some people report mixing Galantamine with other Nootropic can enhance the degree of lucidity but this is still controversial since some mixtures may work for some people, but lead to failure for others.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming:_Induction_Techniques#Food_and_drin k

[Clairity]

Could someone post here a list of foods that help with lucid dreaming, even a little bit will help!

I found the following threads:

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=55227

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=32050


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[Jorge]

Thanks for the tips you guy and 1 gurl, Anway I'm noticing something strange. When I first read about drinking apple juice to help you with lucid dreaming...I was excited and if it was a placebo affect I wouldn't really care.

Anyway I have done this technique twice, and both times I got the same result. I always had a sad emotional dream when I drink it! The first time, I was crying because my friend died.

The second time, I don't remember my dream, but I remember waking up in the middle of the night crying!

It's hilarious I know, but could there be any explanations for this?

[Matthew]

ive tried both and grape juice worked as good or better than apple juice

[shalomsalaam]

Thanks for the tips you guy and 1 gurl, Anway I'm noticing something strange. When I first read about drinking apple juice to help you with lucid dreaming...I was excited and if it was a placebo affect I wouldn't really care.

Anyway I have done this technique twice, and both times I got the same result. I always had a sad emotional dream when I drink it! The first time, I was crying because my friend died.

The second time, I don't remember my dream, but I remember waking up in the middle of the night crying!

It's hilarious I know, but could there be any explanations for this?

Its more likely the state of mind you've been in recently, combined with the impact of more vivid dreams. If you're feeling emotional, consciously or unconsciously, it will impact the circumstances of your dreamscape, right?

[Gez]

I had no lucid dreams, but thanks to that apple juice i just got a major boost in dream recall, i was literally writing in my dream journal for about half an hour.
crazy.:banana:

[Móði]

I love apple juice and drink it all the time! But my dreams are still blurry short snippets. Oh well. :P

[maxy126]

i must say it works i bought some apple juice at college its 275ml i think and i had 2 apples when i came home i had 4 realistic dreams i had a nightmare that wasnt even scary just dramatic but its beacause it was so real is what scared me i was kinda lucid in my nightmare too its werid

[SKA]

Haven't tryed this more than once and occasionally. Have to get back to this; This topic's getting longer and longer and I suppose that has a good reason.

I'm gunna go to the supermarket now and get some applejuice as well as some apples.
Perhaps neutritional substances in apples are responsible for your successes. As we know most fruitjuices are made from concentrate, in which alot of the actual nuetrition is lost.

So I'll be trying both apples and applejuice. (preferably REAL applejuice from pressed apples)

[maxy126]

yeah man i heard that apples are best about 2 apples but when im older dont think my parents will let me do this but my idea is to blend like 5 apples together thats the real shit :)

[Jorge]

^^^

Your parents won't let you blend apples? ROFL

[SKA]

yah haven't you heard? Apples are the new trend of hallucinogenic drugs these days. Watch your teens closely and check for any signs that they might be doing apples ;)

Well can ppl here who tried applejuice, wether it worked for them or not, post here wether they drank Real applejuice, Homemade applejuice or applejuice from concentrate?

[Dizko]

^^^

Your parents won't let you blend apples? ROFL

xD

[Mart_Man2]

I've been eating 2-3 apples before bed for about 2 days now, And i usually blink for about 5 seconds in bed, and when i open my eyes only to find out that 3 hours have passed!... I know it may seem a bit far fetched, but it actually did happen... Can someone explain to me?

[Rgb525]

Got a butt-load of applejuice today. So psyched to try out this method!

[Jorge]

I've been eating 2-3 apples before bed for about 2 days now, And i usually blink for about 5 seconds in bed, and when i open my eyes only to find out that 3 hours have passed!... I know it may seem a bit far fetched, but it actually did happen... Can someone explain to me?



This has happened to me once when I was a kid. Well at least all I can remember. I woke up in the middle of the night, and I looked at the clock...

1 A.M

* Blink *

2 A.M ( Wtf?? )

* Blink *

3 A.M ( I'm trippin balls..:eek: )


And then I fell asleep, it literally felt like a blink. I still remember it till this day...it was very weird.

[spaceexplorer]

well, just to add more to the thread.
I had a couple of lucids dream after a bit of a dissapointing week long dry spell last night. Oddly enough i drank apple juice during a WBTB.
Not sure it was the apple juice that did it, as there are so many factors that could have influened it, but still glad i had one.

I'd been out last night celebrating with friends.
Drank A LOT, so got home quite drunk lol
Got to bed at 4am. Woke up soooo thirsty at about 8.30 am. Drank about 3 glasses of apple juice and 2 glasses of water (luckily doing this stopped me having a hangover this morning!)

Anyway went back to bed and had 1 short lucid dream, followed by another longer one.
Assuming the alchohol caused quite a bit of REM rebound.
That combined with the WBTB technique could have been enough to cause the LDs.

Just interesting that apple juice was involved, maybe it had some impact, maybe it was just placebo. Who knows.

[Shift]

Damn. Ok, I switched to real apple juice last night. Well, more real than Motts. I went to Tropicana. And I had all these crazy vivid dreams. In the last one, it was vivid visually (I remember like every single detail, it's ridiculous), I could smell things, hear things, and we even killed an alligator and started cooking it and I could smell and taste it. I got lucid at one point, and I managed to lose all visual cues but then get them back. Unfortunately it was a post-apocalyptic-zombie dream so I lost it pretty quickly :( But damn. Even if it is all just placebo... :thumbup:

[Shift]

Everyone buy stock in Tropicana. It's the only thing that's going to survive these markets, because I'm about to buy SO MUCH!:boogie:
Yea I just had another ridiculously long and detailed dream. I had every sense in the dream, but I wasn't lucid. It felt like it lasted 6 hours. This is either some damn good juice or a fantastic placebo.

[spaceexplorer]

Everyone buy stock in Tropicana. It's the only thing that's going to survive these markets, because I'm about to buy SO MUCH!:boogie:
Yea I just had another ridiculously long and detailed dream. I had every sense in the dream, but I wasn't lucid. It felt like it lasted 6 hours. This is either some damn good juice or a fantastic placebo.

Hey Shift,
So how are you using apple juice?
Before bed? WBTB? or just throughout the day too?

Sorry if you've already posted this by the way.
The only success I've had with apple juice (but also the only attempt) so far was in a WBTB, so im guessing you do the same?

Also, love the fact that placebo or not, this is a really nice healthy, natural lucid dream practice.

[Shift]

Hey Shift,
So how are you using apple juice?
Before bed? WBTB? or just throughout the day too?

Sorry if you've already posted this by the way.
The only success I've had with apple juice (but also the only attempt) so far was in a WBTB, so im guessing you do the same?

Also, love the fact that placebo or not, this is a really nice healthy, natural lucid dream practice.

I don't do it throughout the day, although I'd love to (AJ rules...). I drink about one half to one container of applejuice (about 1-2 cups) http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415ZiyZD1tL._SS500_.jpg during brief awakenings after about 5+ hours of sleep.

I think the OP linked some article about how the effects run through you pretty quickly, so during a wbtb is the only time you'd actually get results. I dunno may want to go back to the first couple of pages and check it out.
Yea, delicious, and reasonably healthy. I don't drink enough fluids anyway and I hate drinking, so this sort of kills two birds with one stone :D

[Chrysalid]

I had about 12 oz. of apple juice and I'll be going to sleep soon. I'll do a WBTB after 4 hours and have another 8 oz. of apple juice then sleep after 30 minutes, I'll report back the results. If it works I'll do it in the 2 days I take off of Galantamine/Choline/B5. Presently I do 2 days on GalantaMind 4g and 2 days off.

[Secret Neo]

holy crap, i gave up apple juice when i was like 5, but i gotta go get some, the results seem amazing.

[roland3tr]

As I couldn't find apple juice in the middle of the night, I ate one apple before going to bed :D. The result is, I've had my longest and vivid dream in years maybe the longest of all time (At least 15 people I know past+present). It felt like a day considering my normal dreams. I don't know if it is because of the apple or not but I'll definitely try it again. By the way it was not LD. If it had been, I am sure it would have been shorter.

[Knight]

I hear orange juice induces lucidity also.:banana::)

[Roryflyguy]

So you rekon orange squash would work? :)
Or maybe I should eat some apple instead?

[roland3tr]

So you rekon orange squash would work? :)
Or maybe I should eat some apple instead?

Eating apple helped me last night.

[Shift]

I think this was buried since this thread is so long. Everyone should read this response, kudos to Dodo :)

:boogie::boogie::boogie::boogie:According to the article abstract Acetylcholine levels were improved because of antioxidants. It suggests that antioxidants found in fruit and vegetables get digested better than antioxidant supplements. The study was funded by the U.S. Apple Association and the Apple Products Research and Education Council, so no wonder they tested apples, even though they are fruits and vegetables with more antioxidants than apples.

A quick google search for antioxidant rich fruits revealed these lists:
http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/top-10-antioxidant-rich-fruits-and-veggies/article16245.html
Fruits
1. Prunes
2. Raisins
3. Blueberries
4. Blackberries
5. Strawberries
6. Raspberries
7. Plums
8. Oranges
9. Red grapes
10. Cherries


Vegetables
1. Kale
2. Spinach
3. Brussels sprouts
4. Alfalfa sprouts
5. Broccoli flowers
6. Beets
7. Red bell peppers
8. Onions
9. Corn
10. Eggplant

http://drbenkim.com/articles-antioxidants.html
Rank Food Serving Size Antioxidant Capacity per Serving
1 Small red beans, dried 1/2 cup 13727
2 Wild blueberries 1 cup 13427
3 Red kidney beans, dried 1/2 cup 13259
4 Pinto beans 1/2 cup 11864
5 Blueberries, cultivated 1 cup 9019
6 Cranberries 1 cup 8983
7 Artichoke hearts, cooked 1 cup 7904
8 Blackberries 1 cup 7701
9 Dried prunes 1/2 cup 7291
10 Raspberries 1 cup 6058
11 Strawberries 1 cup 5938
12 Red delicious apple One 5900
13 Granny Smith apple One 5381
14 Pecans 1 ounce 5095
15 Sweet cherries 1 cup 4873
16 Black plum One 4844
17 Russet potato, cooked One 4649
18 Black beans 1/2 cup 4181
19 Plum One 4118
20 Gala apple One 3903

It seems that among fruit, berries are especially rich in antioxidants. I suggest that in addition to apples we try them and see if they affect dream vividness and lucidity.:boogie::boogie::boogie::boogie:

[Roryflyguy]

Eating apple helped me last night.

Awesome. I'll try this! :D

Edit: Woah Shift; I've never seen higher amounts of win in a single post!

[Knight]

I had an apple the other night and I had an epic dream.:bowdown:

Not lucid though:roll:

I am trying oj soon, every night I have zinc, cheese, apple, and mustard.

I wonder if these will ever work...............:D

[Shift]

Awesome. I'll try this! :D

Edit: Woah Shift; I've never seen higher amounts of win in a single post!

Yea, I'm pretty awesome... lmao! :boogie:

Nah. Just goes to show how important it is to read not just the end of a thread, but every post within a thread. Some real gems buried on this site, it's a shame more people don't go scouring like I have :tongue:

btw I just chugged 36 oz of apple juice. I'm off to take an epic nap full of kickass lucids. Updates to follow!

[roland3tr]

You are right Shift :) I've just read 15 pages of FILD. My eyes are in trouble but I'm more satisfied :lol:

[Roryflyguy]

"36 oz of apple juice"
Jesus christ!
That's a lot of apple juice.

If i'm remembering what oz are correctly; that is.

[Chrysalid]

It didn't work for me, but the conditions were all wrong. I'll try again in a few days with the apple juice, a call before bed kept me up for a couple of hours. It's back to the GalantaMind for 2 days.

[Caradon]

Today I bought a gallon of Indian Summer apple cider on my way home from work, and drank a bunch of it before my nap. I did have some very vivid clear recall, and almost got Lucid.

But I can't say for sure if it had anything to do with the apple cider, because I've been pretty focused on inducing a lucid the last couple of days. My recall always gets vivid and clear when I'm well focused on dreaming, regardless of what I eat or drink. So who knows, but I'll keep trying it. Can't go wrong, because it tastes soooo good! :D

[Shift]

Another 12 oz and I had one of my longest, coolest lucid dreams! Unfortunately towards the end I lost lucidity so it's gotten hazy :(

Anyway... this apple juice... it seems to be pretty consistent... I would love to do a real 2xblind study!

[Caradon]

Sounds awesome Shift, Congratulations!

I'm going to get some more tomorrow. Sunday nights are my Fridays. Hopefully it will help intensify the REM rebound I normal get from little sleep during my work week. :D

[moonshine]

Well I read orange juice helped, so I drank a glass before bed last night.
I went to bed at 11pm. Woke at 12.40am after a vivid dream.
This was highly unusual, as I normally don't remember 1st dream of the night until 2.30 at the earliest, but mostly 4.30am.

I'm going to have a glass over the next few nights and see what happens.

[KrazyYerttle]

what about apple cider?

[Lionsroar]

I tried an apple juice before going to bed.. only one glass though.. no notable difference..


@Shift: do you keep a dream jorunal for all your Dilds?

[Shift]

I had some blueberries and apple juice last night, and another batch of crazy vivid dreams, one of which I became lucid from.

@Shift: do you keep a dream jorunal for all your Dilds?

Sure do. Not online, though. I only post ones I feel are relevant to share online.

[moonshine]

I asked the wife to pick me up two cartons on apple juice at the shops today.
I'm planning to try a wild Saturday Morning.
Lets see what happens.

[Caradon]

The juice does not seem to make any difference on my dreams. I actually have had better recall on the nights I didn't drink any.

I'll tell you what did have an effect though, watching the movie "The Strangers" just before going to sleep. I had one of the most intense nights of dreaming I've had in a long time that night. And that was one of the nights with no juice.

[pheenix345]

What about apple cider?
I seem to have LDs with it too

[ZmillA]

hmm there seems to be something to this apple thing...

[Ryuinfinity]

I hear orange juice induces lucidity also.:banana::)
Tried it and it worked!

[luke]

Won't apples help you LD in the same way as sugar, or coffee will help you?

I mean, apples are more effective at keeping people awake in the morning than caffeine, and sugar is obviously helpful in keeping you awake, so why not just take a tonne of sugar during WBTB then go to sleep before the sugar kicks in...

Will this work?

[westonci]

Won't apples help you LD in the same way as sugar, or coffee will help you?

I mean, apples are more effective at keeping people awake in the morning than caffeine, and sugar is obviously helpful in keeping you awake, so why not just take a tonne of sugar during WBTB then go to sleep before the sugar kicks in...

Will this work?

apples juice increases the production in the brain of the essential neurotransmitter acetylcholine, and acetylcholine is very important in REM Sleep

[John11]

I tried this. I had a large glass of apple juice before going to be and then another when I woke up in the middle of the night, but it didn't help me at all. I actually feel like I had less vivid dreams that night. Maybe I just got unlucky.

[The_Patient]

Im going to try WBTB tonight and eat a buttload of apples now and when I wake up at night. I hope it works!

[Zak]

Peanuts contain a lot of Acetylcholine, so will peanut butter work as well? I just had about 3 spoonfuls of peanut butter. I will report back tomorrow. I hope it does work, cause I hate apple juice and I don't want to have to buy a whole carton of it if peanut butter works too. :?

[Brainchild]

One thing's for sure:

APPLE JUICE = DIARRHEA

[Zak]

It worked! I had one of the best LDs of my life last night! :D It ended my dry spell too. If you don't like apple juice, try peanut butter or orange juice. It really works.

[The_Patient]

Wow.....

I ate two apples a couple of minutes before I went to sleep. I woke upin themiddle of the night and remembered one VERY vivid dream. I woke up later and remembered another vivid dream and a fragment of another. After my alarm clock sounded I didnt immediately remember any dreams, but I remembered three more for a total of seven dreams recalled in one night! Apples work!

[Caradon]

I honestly don't think apples have anything to do with it. I had a ten dream night last night, with No juice or fruit of any kind. Far better than any of the nights I drank the juice.

When I was on vacation at the cabin, I had nights like that every night except for two. And I ate very little, and drank only water.

[KingOfTwilight]

Tried WBTB last night with Applejuice( pure, no sugar)

No recall >.<

[ladoys]

Indeed I tried a big glass full before bed and on other nights in the middle of the night. I too believe that after awhile it hurt vividness and recall, but I found that a week later I've been getting nonstop lucids. My dream sign= http://nhkt1a.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pw8D-z0vNk_Rr1HLapQxkHAP_J0WA9mJHKWB-QqfGxduSxZ0q7qtBNZ88iAclgYSSgZtQXuMJ1q0/DSCN1500.JPG

[marcc]

it helps you guys. another one to confirm it!

i have really weird dreams, but i get low-level lucids everytime and i get insane recall.
noticed that with apples your dreams can get 'guided' by emotions, e.g. i kept on thinking about having an sd with my crush, and although i didnt achieve an sd, i had at least two dreams involving her that night.

[slash112]

wow, apple juice, really?
thats so cool i have apple juice quite a lot, but ive only just started lucid dreaming to ill do the WBTB and drink some apple juice ASAP

[slash112]

would just eating apples work, because i have them all the time

[I H8 Reality]

would just eating apples work, because i have them all the time

I think apple juice is more pure and concentrated than apples them selves

[theholotrope]

Sounds like I'm going to buy me some apple juice!!!

Do you guys think it's better to drink apple nectar? Is it more concentrated or less?

[Lionsroar]

okay guys.. I'm saying it worked for me.
Woek up at 6, went jogging for half an hour, came home drank a glass of apple juice, tried wild, dint work, tried wbtb couldnt concentrate. so ended up just sleeping, but had some pretty darn vivid dreams, and i think I kinda got to lucidty in the last few seconds.
:D

i'll try again tommorw and write what happens..

[theholotrope]

Okay, I'd say it was a complete success.

It was only a half-lucid, but I say success because it was completely distinctive from any other night. My first night with AJ was a failure but the second night was definitely different. Here's how it went:

1 - Slept at 11:00PM
2 - Woke up at 5:00AM naturally. Went to the bathroom, wrote down some dreams for about 20 Min. and drank about 250ml of AJ.
3 - Tough times trying to sleep for about 40 min. and at about 6:00am I started drifting off.
4 - Woke up at 6:50AM after my lucid and wrote it down.

I consider it a half-lucid because I remember having control of myself but the dream took hold of me. It wasn't a good lucid at all, I had to fight off a couple of dream characters, not a good feeling. But it was a lucid because I remember having to stabilize successfully about 2-3 times. Then, had a false awakening and started writing down my lucid in my new dream. THEN I woke up and remembered everything like a regular dream but somehow figured out that I did actually stabilize.

So, not a fun lucid or a very vivid one, but I usually don't have LD's since I just picked it up again and this is my second night trying AJ. The first one, I couldn't sleep. And it was definitely the longest lucid I've ever had since I was calm enough to not wake up when I noticed it was an LD.

***

Will report back if I have more results. I definitely recommend Apple Juice but I would suggest not staying awake too much in your WBTB if you are going to try it because I "think" AJ wakes your mind up some. So, just wake up, go to the bathroom if you need to, drink some AJ and possibly do a MILD or even nothing at all. Just a suggestion for beginners. :)

[Shift]

So, not a fun lucid or a very vivid one

I'm confused, you said it was a success, but that your dream wasn't very vivid?
Yay for being lucid though!! :boogie:

[theholotrope]

Yeah, like I said, I had to stabilize three times. I'd have to say it was more like a half-lucid but it was still lucid.

So, as far as reality checking and being in a dream, it was a success. I see potential in apples!

[Shift]

Yeah, like I said, I had to stabilize three times. I'd have to say it was more like a half-lucid but it was still lucid.

So, as far as reality checking and being in a dream, it was a success. I see potential in apples!

Well the apple juice isn't supposed to make you lucid. It's just supposed to make your dream more vivid. A bonus to being in a nice vivid dream is, hopefully, lots of clear details that can cue you in to RC or flat out lucidity.

[Kai14]

Does eating apples count? I love apples! But I'm diabetic, so drinking apple juice contains carbs and lots of sugar (in some) and can really raise blood sugar. Hmmm, I will try to eat apples tonight. But I usually eat apples a lot before bed, and yet no vivid dreams. Why is that?

[Parakonstantius]

About a week ago, I woke up at approx. 3am, and ate a granola bar with dried fruit. It worked great, and I recalled 3 dreams.

[TheRealOrangeJuice]

I'll try eating apples, I'm eating one right now. I'm going to bed in about 30 minutes. I'll edit my results in tomorrow. :banana:

[Lionsroar]

It dint work for me.. just wanted to say that :)
worked once.. failed all the other times.. maybe my sleeping schedule is screwed

[Lionsroar]

Okay.. I did it again today.. but I did have a dream that I 'attempted' to do a RC. I did the nose thing.. but my nose was for some reason.. slippery? and the check didnt work.. but still.. never done it before in a dream. I

[Misbijoux]

Does eating apples count? I love apples! But I'm diabetic, so drinking apple juice contains carbs and lots of sugar (in some) and can really raise blood sugar. Hmmm, I will try to eat apples tonight. But I usually eat apples a lot before bed, and yet no vivid dreams. Why is that?

Regular apples contain just as much carbs and sugar (natural) as apple juice (at least the 100% apple juice with no added anything) not the concentrated stuff. From what I've heard (and correct me if I'm wrong), apples are one of the many foods that can lower blood sugar. I'm just confused as to why apple juice (the ones with no added anything) would be any different.

[Psionics]

would apples work? i want to know cause i don't have apple juice right now but have eaten a couple apples.

[The Cusp]

I've heard it said that apple juice is more effective at keeping you awake than coffee. I can see how it might keep you awake, but being more "alert" might make for a more vivid dream.

[オースチン]

This thread really captured my interest. I tried it last night. I'll be doing several different trials

Trials one: Sleep from 12:30-6:30. I took a Surbex-T B Complex Pill before sleep and upon waking at 6:30 drank half a glass of apple juice. I then typed out my dream, which I was on the brink of becoming lucid before waking to my alarm, and then turned on the lucid dreaming subliminal message song while reading some of the DV threads. Drank the rest of the AJ and then I went back to sleep at 6:50 using WBTB. It wasn't quite successful. I don't fully recall my dreams. But I can remember they were relatively vivid and involved at least my sense of touch in addition to sight and sound.

Tonight: Sleep from 12:45/1:00-6:00. B Complex before sleep, plus half a glass of AJ. Wake up, Half the remaining AJ, Song, Write Dreams, Check DV, Finish AJ, Sleep.

I'll report my results tomorrow

Edit: I have a feeling AJ+WBTB is a going to give me good results generally. I won't lose hope easily.

[Shift]

This thread really captured my interest. I tried it last night. I'll be doing several different trials

Trials one: Sleep from 12:30-6:30. I took a Surbex-T B Complex Pill before sleep and upon waking at 6:30 drank half a glass of apple juice. I then typed out my dream, which I was on the brink of becoming lucid before waking to my alarm, and then turned on the lucid dreaming subliminal message song while reading some of the DV threads. Drank the rest of the AJ and then I went back to sleep at 6:50 using WBTB. It wasn't quite successful. I don't fully recall my dreams. But I can remember they were relatively vivid and involved at least my sense of touch in addition to sight and sound.

Tonight: Sleep from 12:45/1:00-6:00. B Complex before sleep, plus half a glass of AJ. Wake up, Half the remaining AJ, Song, Write Dreams, Check DV, Finish AJ, Sleep.

I'll report my results tomorrow

Edit: I have a feeling AJ+WBTB is a going to give me good results generally. I won't lose hope easily.

If you're seriously going to be doing trials you'd better make sure that they're all blind, otherwise it's pretty much a waste of time to take detailed notes about it :(

[Psionics]

This really works. last night I had about one cup before bed and had two fully vivid dreams, as apposed to my usual remember-only-the-last-two-seconds dreams I've been getting recently. unfortunately it made me have a deeper sleep, so I didn't respond to my alarm clock.

[オースチン]

If you're seriously going to be doing trials you'd better make sure that they're all blind, otherwise it's pretty much a waste of time to take detailed notes about it :(

Why does it need to be a blind experiment? I can't necessarily mix placebos in with my Surbex T's, or make a fake apple juice and drink that. This is simply trial and error to see what works best for me. Perhaps the results will inspire other people who are interested to try one of the methods I used as well.

I'm not doing the trails for notes, or research, I'm simply a Lucid Dreamer who needs to hone his skills before he's able to call himself a regular.

Wish me luck,

O-Suchin




(Results from last night)
As for Last Night:
Vivid dreams but low recall. I missed a few blatant Dream Signs. Nothing special to report. I didn't have a lucid. Tonight I'm drinking the Apple Juice before bed and taking the Surbex T pill at the same time. I'm sleeping from 1-6:30, waking up, reading about lucid dreaming for 10 minutes, taking a warm shower, then going back to sleep. The Warm Shower-Sleep transition is how i had most of my lucid dreams in high school, Before I realized what they were.

O-Suchin

[Shift]

Why does it need to be a blind experiment? I can't necessarily mix placebos in with my Surbex T's, or make a fake apple juice and drink that. This is simply trial and error to see what works best for me. Perhaps the results will inspire other people who are interested to try one of the methods I used as well.

I'm not doing the trails for notes, or research, I'm simply a Lucid Dreamer who needs to hone his skills before he's able to call himself a regular.

Well you said trials, so I meant that you if you want to do a serious, scientific study you should. It's awesome that you are documenting them, but yes unless that is done you have to consider the factor that you are aware that you are ingesting these things. Still, best of luck :D I for one believe that the juice can have an effect, so I'm looking forward to hearing of your successes :D

[オースチン]

To anyone who was interested in my experimenting with different methods,
I'm sorry I forgot to update. I've been busy with christmas preparations and friends. I didn't do all the trials I wanted to but, I at least in my case I found apple sauce to be a better Lucid Aid than Apple Juice. Has anyone experienced a similar situation?

O-Suchin

[ThreeLetterSyndrom]

Well you said trials, so I meant that you if you want to do a serious, scientific study you should. It's awesome that you are documenting them, but yes unless that is done you have to consider the factor that you are aware that you are ingesting these things. Still, best of luck :D I for one believe that the juice can have an effect, so I'm looking forward to hearing of your successes :D

We should research this all together scientifically :P

Uhhh, apple sauce? So you eat some apple sauce before bed. How much, what kind, etc.

[オースチン]

We should research this all together scientifically :P

Uhhh, apple sauce? So you eat some apple sauce before bed. How much, what kind, etc.


Yes, Apple Sauce my friend. Mott's Apple Sauce, I don't believe there was any cinnamon in it. I finished half of a standard jar. I'd tell you the exact Oz. and everything but it's downstairs, and I am unfortunately upstairs. I'm not sure how much credit I'm prepared to give it though. I had my Lucid Dream last night by WILDing, and I ate the apple sauce 6 hours prior to that.

Good Luck with either product and I'd love to make this into an experiment we can conduct with multiple members on DV, feel free to lead the way.

O-Suchin

[Shift]

Yes, Apple Sauce my friend. Mott's Apple Sauce, I don't believe there was any cinnamon in it. I finished half of a standard jar. I'd tell you the exact Oz. and everything but it's downstairs, and I am unfortunately upstairs. I'm not sure how much credit I'm prepared to give it though. I had my Lucid Dream last night by WILDing, and I ate the apple sauce 6 hours prior to that.

Good Luck with either product and I'd love to make this into an experiment we can conduct with multiple members on DV, feel free to lead the way.

O-Suchin

I'd enjoy such an experiment, too, though it would be hard to come up with placebos I think. research forums (http://www.dreamviews.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=32)

[オースチン]

ahh, thank you for the link Shift. I had no idea such a section existed within DV.
Happy Holidays all around

O-Suchin

[Waldo the 5th]

Shift, may I suggest in these test trials that you have experienced people and inexperienced. For the vet dreamer, it may be difficult to see if there was any great improvement as they are already up to scratch. With the newbies, I think it would be easier to spot a greater contrast. Throwing it out there. Best of luck, happy dreaming to all!

[Clamosus]

Sounds good! I'll try it next night.

E: Didn't have apple juice, :P so I drank orange-grape-peach-mango-passion fruit juice :D after 6½ hours of sleep. Didn't have lucid, but exceptional long dream. :O

I'll try this again when I have apple juice. :P

[ReaLiTy_DReaM]

Apple juice seems to work for me as well. I've had one glass before bed for the past week and had at least one vivid dream each night, plus one lucid dream (only lasted about ten seconds because I think it was at the end of my REM cycle). For the past two days, though, I didn't drink any and my recall decreased tremendously.

[Souperman22]

I don't usually have apple juice at my house. Do apples alone work?

[Hidden]

The article mentions both apples and apple juice; I don't think it makes much of a difference. I don't have apple juice either, but I'll try it once I get some.

[Shift]

Yes, just read the thread. All the information is available in it for you to read.

[ca1um132]

I drinked a glass of Apple Juice last night and I had a very long vivid dream.

Probably just a concidence or a placebo effect but I'll try again tonight.

[mrdeano]

Well, it looks like I am off to buy some Apple Juice.
Now I need a way to keep it away from my family, they will drink it all! And I can't exactly tell them why I am drinking Apple Juice aha!

[Hidden]

Lol mrdeano, my family will drink all of my apple juice too. And they did. >.<

I didn't notice much of a difference after drinking apple juice. I didn't do it with a WBTB, I just drank it before going to bed. Ironically, I think I had less dreams on the nights that I drank apple juice.

[topten35]

I had vivid dreams every time i drunk juice, but it wasn't apple.

[mrdeano]

I drank apple juice last night while doing the WILD method.
And it worked!

It was the best LD I have had up to yet.

[Idolfan]

I like apple juice...

[Mkmaster2400]

I was thinking about trying a wbtb for the first time tonight. I'll drink apple juice before I go back to bed, and see if it works.

[acillis]

i wish to thank everyone who gave this a go, it really does sound promising
i noticed there are alot more hits then misses that alone says it might work for me also, i cant afford to get any apples or juice till next week, will make a report sometime when i got them, wish me the best:bowdown:

[Clairity]

wish me the best:bowdown:

Good luck! :)

.

[Mogzy92]

Well, this thread is very interesting. Tonight im gonna try my own little 'experiment'. Im munching an apple and orange and drinking a glass of orange juice (as i have no AJ :( ) before bed, gonna WBTB after 4-5 hours sleep, and once i wake up ill eat 2 apples and post my results in the morning :D. It was mentioned that newbies should try to test the effects. So here goes nothing!

[acillis]

since i can not get apples or juice till next week, all i had in the house was a big bag of cheese..... so i eat half a bowl full before bed last night:shock:
maybe that was a bit much.... throughout the day i took one st johns wort tab... i don't know if that added to it.
but also with the half bowl of cheese i also took a Valerian pill.

i have not had a dream like i had last night in... i don't know how long its been... it was fun but very disturbing, it was if i went into some alternate universe or something.... very strange..... I'm trying the cheese again to night!:D
and my cheese is the shredded type, give me a sec ill go read the exact label
Cole's smart buy: shredded tasty cheddar cheese, this is meant to work also?
oh i nearly forgot, i also been eating a raw onion on and off all day also.

even if i wanted to share this dream with you guys, i couldn't and wouldn't know where to start... it was awesome and funny but at the same time it was evil at the same time, very very vivid but nowhere near lucidity, god I'm just imagining what the apples and juice are gonna do! holy fuck!!!!!!
here is for the power of the apple and the cheese:bowdown:

[Mogzy92]

We need a dancing apple smiley now!

i cannot begin to emphasize how much i agree with this.

So i did what i said i would in my last post. And i had THE-MOST-SURREAL-NIGHT-OF-MY-LIFE..

when i munched an apple orange and the orange juice, nothing special happened. But when i did a wbtb after 4-5 hours sleep and ate 2 apples, i tried a WILD. I was doing a mantra as a fallback 'The next time im dreaming, i will realise im dreaming and do a reality check'. I got bored of trying to WILD as it was taking a while, so i rolled over and went to sleep. So the earliest thing i remember is (in my dream) i wake up in a bed in college, and see this weird pandington bear head and shit myself, and imeadiatly close my eyes. As soon as i close my eyes in the dream, i get SP. MANIC SP. Now i dunno if i was really feeling it or if it was the dream, but it sure felt real.

As i was lying there in SP i thought YES! I can use this to LD!(not realising i was dreaming at the time) and i swear, i saw the dream start to form. Then i somehow jumped into this dream :shock: This is my second ever LD, and all i did was try to spin to stabilize it, which was suprisingly hard :lol: I should also note this LD was like, SUPER vivid. My first LD looked sort of dreamlike, but this one was like waking life vivid. I thought what to do, saw a van going down the road and decided to try running super fast. I managed to catch up with it and run quick and light footed enough to walk on a massive puddle of water without sinking ( i was proud) and rubbed my hands as i did this, to make sure i didnt loose lucidity. But then, there was INSTANT blackness. Then i had an FA, but i didnt wake up in my bed, i woke in the college bed again.. i then proceeded to have an immensly vivid and long dream, in which i had ANOTHER FA.

This is where it gets confusing.. I woke up in some weird place, and my mum, this boy i know, and some girl i see about the place was there. They was doing something weird, then i had ANOTHER FA. I got out of bed, and the SAME place and people i saw before the FA where there. I tried telling them all that i have had a dream about this before but they didnt beleive me, told me to shut up and gave me a bag of weed :D This dream proceeded to be long and vivid also

I then had yet ANOTHER FA and woke up in a room where a bunch of people i know where playing like a call of duty game, where the opening of it is a war kicking off, but with sonic music. I saw it and was like 'this is lame, the music kills the epicness' then realised it was sonic sounding music. Then someone tells me, 'Its a COD & Sonic crossover game'. We played it, and i remember the game quick well, as it played just like a real game. You got to choose your character, be it a helicopter, tank, soldier, sonic or tails. Anyways, when i woke up from this i was in my real bed really awake, and you dont realize how puzzled i was by this whole thing. The SP thing, has anyone had that happen before, like dreamed about having SP but you feel your real body paralized or something? It was weird and i probably explained the whole thing in an odd way, but this is how i experienced it :lol:

So, my conclusion thus far...KUDOS to Apples (even if theyre placebo)

Im sooo gonna try again tonight.

[Richnfg]

I drunk a whole carton before bed last night and had three vivid dreams. Not conclusive evidence, but good nonetheless. haha.

[josh2010]

well, i thought i'd add my experience to this. I drank a big glass of apple juice and ate a small box of raisins last night just before bed. I tried a WILD as soon as i got in bed, but couldnt get as far as I have been able to in the past (meaning, sleep paralysis and such). Then, I had at least three very vivid dreams (non-lucid). However, by this morning, I couldn't remember any of them, just the emotions I associated with them.

Anyways, it is definately showing some potential for me and I intend to try it again, especially after sleeping first.

[Mattofla]

All I have is mango juice...

[hisnameistyler]

Damn, I wanna try this! Mogzy92's post is inspirational. That's so cool. Perhaps this depends on the person too? I guess we can see.

[marcc]

I think any juice would work, right?

I want to see what'll happen if you replace every drink with a glass of juice :D

[ItalianoCane]

I did a WBTB last night. I woke up around 6:15 and stayed up an hour. Before I went back to sleep I drank about two glasses of apple juice and went to bed. It took me a little while to go to sleep, but I had a really long dream that was really odd. I ran out of juice, but I'm eager to try again.

[hisnameistyler]

I did a WBTB last night. I woke up around 6:15 and stayed up an hour. Before I went back to sleep I drank about two glasses of apple juice and went to bed. It took me a little while to go to sleep, but I had a really long dream that was really odd. I ran out of juice, but I'm eager to try again.

Welcome to the forum, friend! So would you say that the apple juice had a clear effect on your dream?

[ItalianoCane]

Well, normally I can remember about 1 dream per night, but I would definatly say that I had a longer and more unusual dream than I normally do. Wether or not that was due to apple juice or happenstance, I don't fully know.

What I do know is that apple juice is tasty, and I'm going to get some more and try again to see if it has the same effect. And thanks. :) Glad to finally be getting into the swing of things.

[peacock486]

maybe this will end my dry spell.

am gonna try this as soon as i can.

[acillis]

on Wednesday just gone, i brought 4 liters of apple juice, yes 4 liters! lol
the first night, i drank 4 cups; i didnt dream much that night, but i was also pretty stoned, so...... i cant say

the second night, i had a pretty damn vivid dream <i had nothing else in my system> it was quite a disturbing dream, and i dunno if i should share it... nope i wont! its just to sick......

last night, i was quite drunk, but i drank a glass of apple juice before bed, and during wbtb..... had a very very very sad dream involving a girl, i knew.... but who i don't really know at all...........

one thing i have noticed so far, is the emotional dreams that apple juice seems to induce, i don't know if that's a bad thing or good thing..... i felt so sad when i woke up but i was hungover too...so yeah

thats my report for now...... apple juice makes some emotional dreams:(

[stevetrindall]

Can't wait to give this a try. I have not had a lucid dream since christmas and I'm so hoping this will work for me.

[marcc]

I think it's safe to say fruit juices help in most cases :D

[stevetrindall]

For the past 2 nights I have gone to bed at 11 and set my alarm to wake me up at 5. I drank 2 200ml cartons of apple juice before going back to sleep for 2 hours until I needed to get up for work but Unfortunately I have still been unable to have any LD's. I don't even think my dreams has got any more vivid. Can someone suggest any idea to what I'm doing wrong. Thank

[ElsiaStar]

I didn't have any LDs. But think my dreams were more vivid.. idk i'm going to try it again tonight.

[marcc]

Holy crap!
Yesterday, as I was thinking about lucid dreaming supplements, I noticed we had some Omega-3 fatty acid fish tablets (:roll:), and um, I took 5 times the regular amount (hey, it's impossible to OD on and most American's have a deficiency of DHA anyway (and it helps with brain function so I went "ok!") :P). 5 pills (those nasty ones that look like normal pills put then pop and spew oil all over your tongue and teeth).

DID I HAVE AN LD OR WHAT? :banana:

There we have it, folks. 1000mg of DHA will give you splendid, splendid dreams with a yucky taste in your mouth.

And with 90 pills for $8 + tax, it's a lot of dreams for a good price :)

I'm going to start a research thread soon. Anybody who reads this and has a couple of fish oil pills to spare, please share results :)

[loco575]

Holy crap!
Yesterday, as I was thinking about lucid dreaming supplements, I noticed we had some Omega-3 fatty acid fish tablets (:roll:), and um, I took 5 times the regular amount (hey, it's impossible to OD on and most American's have a deficiency of DHA anyway (and it helps with brain function so I went "ok!") :P). 5 pills (those nasty ones that look like normal pills put then pop and spew oil all over your tongue and teeth).

DID I HAVE AN LD OR WHAT? :banana:

There we have it, folks. 1000mg of DHA will give you splendid, splendid dreams with a yucky taste in your mouth.

And with 90 pills for $8 + tax, it's a lot of dreams for a good price :)

I'm going to start a research thread soon. Anybody who reads this and has a couple of fish oil pills to spare, please share results :)

How is it coming so far, I'd love to get some of the pills if they worked. Take like 3 or 4 and 2 glasses of apple juice!

[hisnameistyler]

Hmmmm. Where can I get these pills? I just picked up Melatonin and some vitamin B6, but didn't have any great results. I've only taken them two days though, so I'm going to give it awhile. I'm willing to experiment with a lot of different supplements, as long as I know where to get them.

[marcc]

Hmmmm. Where can I get these pills? I just picked up Melatonin and some vitamin B6, but didn't have any great results. I've only taken them two days though, so I'm going to give it awhile. I'm willing to experiment with a lot of different supplements, as long as I know where to get them.
I got some at Trader Joe's. There are two types: the $8 'flavored' version, and the $9 tasteless version :D

[Zenman]

Wow, there are a lot of inspirational posts on this thread. One thing nobody mentioned is that if you're going to drink apple juice before bed, or during a WBTB, make sure to either brush your teeth afterwards or rinse your mouth out with water. It can really decay your teeth while you sleep due to the lack of saliva etc.

With that said, I'm going to drink some tonight and some more during a WBTB and hopefully have some good results to post!

ZM

[XeL]

Wow, this sounds interesting. Will try tonight.