How Does Music Effect LD

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Today is my first day on this site and like my 3rd or 4th post. My question is: I really love music and it plays a big part of my life. I often make my own videos to songs I like to entertain myself. If you enter REM sleep with, let's say Outkast playing. How does that affect your LDing. Does it help or hurt. I've never purposely had an LD but I have experienced some of the things I've read so far. Tonight I'll make a conscious effort to do it. Should I leave the music out of it or does it help?

[Lowercase Society]

this is a HUGE question, that has no huge impacting answer, and i have asked it too, myself

i think that if you are listining to music during REM sleep, and you have a dream, and if you are lucid, and hear the music, it might help you ATTAIN that lucidity, or cause you to realize you are dreaming, or just a simple RT.

i personally recomend incubus. :mrgreen:

__________________________
I'm floating down a river, ours freed from their holes long ago.
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel, i marvel at the stars, and feel my heart overflow.[/b]

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

I'll try tonight to record my dreams without music. If there is any degree of success, I guess I'll ease music into the equation and see what happens. Maybe I'll even get a Incubus CD and see what happens.

[Lowercase Society]

ususally, well this is what "THEY" believe, that most dreams dont happen until after 5-6 hours of sleep...
so wake up then and put on some music and see what happens...in fact i will try that tonight, if i can be bothered! :tunes:

__________________________
I'm floating down a river, ours freed from their holes long ago.
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel, i marvel at the stars, and feel my heart overflow.[/b]

[hysteria]

Originally posted by Mr Sonny Dickens
Outkast

WAS? ACH, WAS SOLL'S!? IST IHR ERNST!?


I know you not... :-P

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Paperdoll EP)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Mr Sonny Dickens
Outkast

WAS? ACH, WAS SOLL'S!? IST IHR ERNST!?


I know you not...[/b]
What? You don't like Outkast (The Love Below) or is introducing music into this bad, with me being a novice and all?

[Lowercase Society]

ouch, man...you just got on her bad side, and those goth chicks have bad sides....(to make it better, say Emperor)

and paperdoll, all this german...eh. you want me to start using greek phrases? cause then we could have an international board.

__________________________
I'm floating down a river, ours freed from their holes long ago.
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel, i marvel at the stars, and feel my heart overflow.[/b]

[hysteria]

*mumbles incoherently*

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Lowercase Society
ouch, man...you just got on her bad side, and those goth chicks have bad sides....(to make it better, say Emperor)

and paperdoll, all this german...eh. *you want me to start using greek phrases? cause then we could have an international board.
Didn't mean to do that. *Goth chicks don't like Outkast? *LOL, I like Paperdoll already. *She's kinda...snapish. *I've only been in here a couple hours and seen her jump down some throats. *My Emperess, plz forgive my misguided attempt at enhancing an already(potentially) beautiful expereince.

__________________________
I'm floating down a river, ours freed from their holes long ago.
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel, i marvel at the stars, and feel my heart overflow.[/b]

[hysteria]

I dunno about posers...but this goth chick tries to avoid anything that has to do with rap or hip hop. ::shudders:: of course, this is all personal.

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
I dunno about posers...but this goth chick tries to avoid anything that has to do with rap or hip hop. ::shudders:: of course, this is all personal.
You're cool.
*seriously*

[Ginko]

It's kool man, OutKast is kool. What other artist you like...

[evangel]

Originally posted by Mr Sonny Dickens
My question is: *I really love music and it plays a big part of my life. *I often make my own videos to songs I like to entertain myself. *If you enter REM sleep with, let's say Outkast playing. *How does that affect your LDing. *Does it help or hurt. *?

Music is very powerful -especially when it comes to the power of suggestion and subconscious "reception." It depends on how lucid you are while hearing the music and how your brain interprets the moods/emotions being conveyed by it. All music has some sort of "emotional sound" or mood within/connected it. I'm not familiar with Outkast, but if their music tends to be angry or sad, your dreams may inevitably have such elements -then there's the lyrics as well (I think the "sound" has more impact than the lyrics, but it really depends on the emphasis among other things... some rap has a more lyrical emphasis and some has a more musical/instrumental emphasis. If there are single words or phrases that are emphasized, your brain is probably more likely to pick up on these while your sleeping, rather than a drawn out story line. I've noticed that when entering lucidity directly while falling asleep, my auditory senses tend to shut down -I can hear the music fade and sometimes completely stop -to some degree, you may not hear the music at all unless you're in a particular stage of sleep where your hearing "opens up" again or if you can sleep with loud music playing...

[42]

Have to agree with Lowercase Society, Paperdoll. Lotta German. We want to know what you're saying. Y'know? :) So don't make me bust out the Aramaic. Wuhaha. :angel: :alien:

[42]

For me personally, I can't sleep with music on. Or rarely, I should say. I'm a musician and my ears soak up music like a sponge. Can't really have it in the background. If it's on, I'm focusing on it. But you should definately play around with it - see what happens and let us know.

[Silver Sphere]

Anything ambient I find potentially good for sleep. Low volume and droning. Surely not Incubus or Emperor! :wink:

[Lowercase Society]

TI MALAKAS MENO! greek for you, but translated to english characters...look it up man, incubus kicks ass.

I'm floating down a river, ours freed from their holes long ago. *
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel, i marvel at the stars, and feel my heart overflow.[/b]

[Lowercase Society]

Originally posted by Paperdoll
I dunno about posers...but this goth chick tries to avoid anything that has to do with rap or hip hop. ::shudders:: of course, this is all personal.

you gotta hand it to her! shes truely spices up this forum life!:cheers:



Blessed is she who clearly sees the wood for the trees
To obtain a birds eye is to turn a blizzard to a breeze
[/b]

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Shawndow
It's kool man, OutKast is kool. What other artist you like...
Really depends on the mood I'm in. I mentioned Outkast, because one of the discs on Speaker Boxxx/The Love Below has a really mellow mood to it and that's what I'm on right now. But for whatever reason, I'm REALLY feeling Linkin Park. I love their sound especially on songs like The End, Crawling In My Skin and Numb.
I tried for the first time to recall my dreams last night, to no avail. I'm not discouraged at all, it being my first time trying and all. I woke up once in the night and actually remembered to say to myself "I'm dreaming, this is a dream" over and over. Thing is I don't remember falling asleep again or if I was actually up to begin with. I see this is going to take some practice and that's cool. Somone posted a link with a book I should get to read more in depth with this. Can't recall the name. I think it's Laberge? At any rate, I'll go back to that thread and get the correct title.
Paper Doll, as open minded as you have to be to get into LD, I'm surprised you put limitations on music. I still luv though.
*blows Paper Doll a kiss*
*is slapped by Paper Doll*

[Lucius]

The best music before LDing is opera, or celtic music which calms you.
Rock or metal absolutely stinks before you go to bed i think, its to loud and agressive if you ask me. R&B is possible.

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Lucius
The best music before LDing is opera, or celtic music which calms you. *
Rock or metal absolutely stinks before you go to bed i think, its to loud and agressive if you ask me. R&B is possible.
Very mellow R&B. I've never bought an opera cd and I'm not sure what Celtic would be. Is that similar to Enigma? I have my days when all I want to hear is alternative or classical. Then I have my Pink Floyd and hard Hip Hop days. Today I'm in a mellow mood. Gotta do The Love Below cd.

[hysteria]

Paper Doll, as open minded as you have to be to get into LD, I'm surprised you put limitations on music. I still luv though. *
*blows Paper Doll a kiss* *
*is slapped by Paper Doll*
[/b]

actually, I'm a little more open than you may think...I just have a lot more exploring to do..when I had kazaa I had downloaded some gregorian chants and some celtic music, along with some trance and techno. so don't think I ONLY listen to metal. also, alot of the metal I like (mostly black) it's not just blaring quitars and screaming / growling vocals, it also has alot of symphony orcestra...and Ihsahn from Emperor has some beautiful vocals.




http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/s/slap.gif

j/k I wouldn't do that http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/g/giggle.gif

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
Paper Doll, as open minded as you have to be to get into LD, I'm surprised you put limitations on music. I still luv though. *
*blows Paper Doll a kiss* *
*is slapped by Paper Doll*


actually, I'm a little more open than you may think...I just have a lot more exploring to do..when I had kazaa I had downloaded some gregorian chants and some celtic music, along with some trance and techno. so don't think I ONLY listen to metal. also, alot of the metal I like (mostly black) it's not just blaring quitars and screaming / growling vocals, it also has alot of symphony orcestra...and Ihsahn from Emperor has some beautiful vocals.
I've never heard of Emperor, but I'll check for it since it's been mentioned a few times in this thread.
Don't get me wrong, Doll. I wasn't typecasting you, just recommending some hip hop that's not all about b*tches Ho*s and busting caps at n*ggaz, LOL. Hip hop is bigger than the stuff we're forced to listen to on the radio.




http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/s/slap.gif

j/k I wouldn't do that http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/g/giggle.gif[/b]

[hysteria]

need help on quoting?

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
need help on quoting?
LOL, is it that obvious? I'll get it together.

[evangel]

Originally posted by 42
For me personally, I can't sleep with music on. *Or rarely, I should say. *I'm a musician and my ears soak up music like a sponge. *Can't really have it in the background. *If it's on, I'm focusing on it. *But you should definately play around with it - see what happens and let us know.


I'm also a musician. There are ways to train your mind not to actively listen as you fall asleep. When I fall asleep with music on, it needs to be faint (background). I usually don't fall asleep to music, but when I do, I use classical or ambient. I would just suggest not listening to any music that has overtly negative content (sound or lyrics) but do whatcha like. I'm sure music does affect our consciousness though. I've heard of studies done that prove this -especially if you listen to a lot of the same stuff a lot of the time.

[will.i.am]

Last night I put on a classical radio station and let it play all night. I found myself waking up every hour and with a new dream every time. Although, I can only remember bits of my dreams, (there were so many) they were all really clear. Not once did I become lucid, I'll try it again tonight though.

[Silver Sphere]

Originally posted by Lucius
Rock or metal absolutely stinks before you go to bed i think, its to loud and agressive if you ask me

I agree with this. Maybe I'm just too easily distracted by noise.

[Lowercase Society]

i guess its just "whatever floats yer boat" in the case of everyone, whatever makes your brain "work" better.

Energetic resonations, flowing from your open circuits…
Can I plug myself in? and read all your fears that you keep locked away.
Just as the world is tugging at the safe that locks them tightly away,
Gravity is pulling your finger closer to the gun pointed at your head.
[/b]

[hysteria]

Whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote...

[Lowercase Society]

hah. :withstupid:


Call it 'womens intuition', but I think I'm on to something here.
Temporaryism has been the 'Black Plague' and the 'Jesus' of our age.[/b]

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
Whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote...
Ah, I like, I like. :>)

[hysteria]

hey, I used to love that song!

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
hey, I used to love that song!
Recommend something for me. Quid pro quo.

[hysteria]

:shock: recommend you something? eh...you wouldn't like the music I like.

[Mr Sonny Dickens]

Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
:shock: recommend you something? eh...you wouldn't like the music I like.
Don't be so sure. I like to expiriment with all kinds of music. However, if I don't like it when I hear it I won't hesitate to say so. I like to let it sink in though.