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whoeverwearevox
10-16-2004, 11:51 AM
Hey, Vox here, i was wondering how many people here meditate. And what your technique(s) is(are).

does anyone meditate before inducing an LD? does it help? (may be one for the lab)

LucidApple
10-16-2004, 12:36 PM
My experience is that esspecially za zen meditation helps in becoming more often lucid.
but iam not alone at this, more ppl that practise zazen have this experience.

Lucius
10-16-2004, 01:14 PM
Zazen is most definately a great med technique(I tried it myself aswell)

However, I recommend that every person would find out his personal style. Note that you can med in all sorts of positions. You dont have to sit in (half)lotus position(I do sometimes but certainly not always). But you can also sit in whatever other way you want or lie down on your bed(you might fall asleep then though if you go too deep)

You can try softly playing some music in the bg to support you(bird sounds, waterfalls etc. I do it from time to time, mostly when I just want to relax) it works

For me its mostly a way to relax and clear my mind, not to induce LDs, but it may help you doing so

Taosaur
10-16-2004, 10:56 PM
My first LDs were a side effect of meditation. I was practicing basic breathing meditation, and sometimes a mantra, Tonglen, or Guru yoga (these last being improvisations based on what I'd read, and not formal transmissions from a qualified person). If you carry the lessons of meditation into daily life, you're basically doing a constant, on-going RC (can't say I'm that immersed in it right now). As with the RCs mentioned on DV, if you're doing it all the time when you're awake, sooner or later you'll do it in a dream.

EDIT: if anyone wants to do a meditation/LD experiment, I'm down. I'll post something in the Lab and see if anyone bites.

finalhope
10-17-2004, 12:10 AM
I meditate, not often as I should, but I do. Usually, I turn all the lights out, save for maybe a candle, light some incense and let myself drift. Other times there will be a specific topic I wish to meditate on. Sometimes, I work martial arts into my meditation...

lurker
10-24-2004, 09:22 AM
i haven't been meditating that much. i've been going in another direction. i've been trying to chime in conciously on the state of mind i'm in when i'm zoned out, or daydreaming. i've been trying to do this on and off for years... kinda like becoming lucid in a dream.

but it has never really happened when i really have time on my hands. like this one time, i was on lunch at work. so i went to my car and did the relaxation response thing read about it here (http://www.mbmi.org)

i ended up zoning out, or going to sleep... i don't know. but all of sudden i woke up, and everything was dark. then i realized my eyes were still closed. initially i had no concept of the fact i was lying down, or anything like that. after i calmed down a little i could actually feel my body, and how it relaxed it felt. then i realized where i did... i was concious while being unconcious or something to that effect. i was estatic. i was totally surprised that i didn't know what to do... meditate on something, do some autosuggestion... after a while i hear a whirring kinda sound, then feel a vibration coming from below me. i feel the vibration more and more, then i notice it's coming from where my throat is physically but it feels like it's coming from under me. then i remember that i'm on lunch, and i have to go to go back to work... then i wonder how long have i been 'out' before becoming concious again. so i will my self to wake up, so i can go back to work... then all of sudden i wake up for real, sit up, and realize i was snoring. i checked my clock, and my lunch period was almost up. so i calculate it was about 20-25min from the time i sat down in the car, and the time i stepped out of the car.