Autosuggestion help?

[Bucketheadjamz]

Recently, I've been trying to use autosuggestion to help get me some LDs.

I read that you have to convince yourself of it's truthfulness.

"I will realize I'm dreaming." But while I'm doing this I realize that this isn't what I truly believe.

Can anyone give me some tips on how to do this?

I mean... how do convince myself that it's true when I know it's not.

Maybe I'm not right for this technique but I would like to try it.

Thanks :)

[Higurashi]

I use autosuggestion every night and I've never relied on "believing" in the mantra. I just...say it (and I have had constant success) :). Not all of them will work: unfortunately it seems like your current choice isn't fitting well - you've just got to find the one that works for you, and you'll be set.

Experiment with the ones presented by the MILD tutorial (http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=65458). If those don't work, it would be fine for you to alter them or come up with something you are comfortable with on your own.

I think it's important to note that you don't have to necessarily believe it will work, only realize that if you do everything right, it could.

[Bucketheadjamz]

I see. I'll definitely check out that tutorial and see what whats for me :)

Thank you very much for clearing this up for me. Appreciate it a lot!!

[Mercen_505]

Phrasing seems very important in my case. The shorter and more direct the statement, the better. Also, when I use autosuggestion to influence my coming dreams, being intentionally vague works out better. For example:

"I know I'm dreaming" - Works fairly well. Short, sweet.
"I'll wake up inside my dreams" - Doesn't work at all. Too long. Too specific.

"I'm dreaming of galaxies" - Works fairly well. Gives me a space related dream ~50% of the time.
"I'm dreaming I'm in a space ship sailing through an asteroid field." - Doesn't work at all.

Using vague expressions works well for me, but once in a great while it backfires... and I have a crappy dream. That's the risk you take when making a wish in four words or less :)

[BigFan]

Phrasing seems very important in my case. The shorter and more direct the statement, the better. Also, when I use autosuggestion to influence my coming dreams, being intentionally vague works out better. For example:

"I know I'm dreaming" - Works fairly well. Short, sweet.
"I'll wake up inside my dreams" - Doesn't work at all. Too long. Too specific.

"I'm dreaming of galaxies" - Works fairly well. Gives me a space related dream ~50% of the time.
"I'm dreaming I'm in a space ship sailing through an asteroid field." - Doesn't work at all.

Using vague expressions works well for me, but once in a great while it backfires... and I have a crappy dream. That's the risk you take when making a wish in four words or less :)
Very interesting :)

[Bucketheadjamz]

thannks a lot Mercen 505!!

[hisnameistyler]

I've heard of a phrase like "the next thing I see will be a dream"

That could work.

[blakkin]

Yeah, I've never felt that I had to truly believe any mantras. I always used them just to keep the ideas in my mind.

For example... if you have a mantra about being lucid, and it's on your mind as you're sleeping, it will have an effect whether you believe it or not.