I don't see why. |
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This has been discussed earlier, but I want to place emphasis on my point in this argument - any sort of God cannot have a consciousness. |
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I don't see why. |
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On what basis do you form these "God" premises? I mean... you define "God" (on what basis, for what purpose?) and then make statements about that defined entity, yet there is no connection to anything real. Basically you just made up an entity, claimed properties and reasoned from there. |
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Last edited by Serkat; 01-18-2009 at 12:56 AM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
Ich brauche keine Waffe.
Ich ermittle ausschließlich mit dem Gehirn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
This is circular logic though. It is presuming that the God has consciousness in it to make the statement. |
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I think you are confusing consciousness and awareness. Awareness is dependent on change, but consciousness is not. |
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Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
Yes. But why would you reason from that basis? What's the point? If some mental patient came up to you and started talking about random concepts he made up that make no sense whatsoever, would you go ahead and write a long-winded essay about why they are logically flawed? I think not. |
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Last edited by Serkat; 01-18-2009 at 01:20 AM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
Ich brauche keine Waffe.
Ich ermittle ausschließlich mit dem Gehirn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
It is because this is insightful to the thesis I am working on for my degree. |
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It's not hard. |
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Last edited by Xei; 01-18-2009 at 05:32 AM.
Your example does not succeed. |
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Perhaps if you had properly defined God as the creator of reality rather than the universe. |
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What? I don't understand the question. |
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Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
Ich brauche keine Waffe.
Ich ermittle ausschließlich mit dem Gehirn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw
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There is no evidence of what? That awareness is a function of the brain? All of neuroscience shows this. Just google it. I think you are trying to distinguish something "special" of awareness compared to consciousness. If you can distinguish the two, please do. |
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You have my position reversed. |
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Last edited by Xaqaria; 01-19-2009 at 12:15 PM.
Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
my definition of God IS CONSCIOUSNESS |
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It isn't the definition of God at all. |
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One question...If he is really Omni-potent...couldnt he just bypass your logic with a paradox and say, "hey, I can do whatever because Im omnipotent" |
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A warrior does not give up what he loves, he finds the love in what he does
Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.
Same applies to omnipotent cheesecakes. |
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I agree everything (ie all matter) is made of energy. This at least is supported by Quantum physics. |
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