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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      Sorry for not replying sooner.

      Special features can be anything that makes this dream different from any other one. Like maybe special colors, or special power you had, or anything unusual. And then you can think about your day and see, if you did anything that day, or before, that may heve triggered that special feature. Or first time you threw a fireball, flew, ate something...
      Also, to help me with ranking the recall evaluation, I made a scale. Tell me if it's good, and if it's not, what I should change about it:
      None – No memory of a dream
      Very Low - Feeling that I remember
      Low - I remember an element of a dream
      Medium - I slightly remember a dream (slightly as in some detail is amiss - speech, color, intentions, anything)
      High - I remember more than one dream (or segments of a dream)
      Very High - I remember at least one dream in high detail.
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      Looks good. Good luck

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      Could you make a scale for the level of control, vividness and stabilization? I'm not very experienced on that, so I don't really know what to expect/how to evaluate that.

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      You know, I don't really have a scale. I don't think many people do. Just because it can be every time so much different.

      I just like to describe what I experienced in detail. Like once I was looking out the window and everything was so clear and vivid and detailed. So I said "wow, look at everything being so detailed", And to my surprise, it got even more detailed and vivid. Even more than in waking life.

      I basically use words like foggy, clear, vivid, detailed, binocular vision, and so on. But you should use your own words to best describe what you saw and felt.

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      I'm gonna do that too, then. I don't think there's a way to scale such things as vividness because there's thousands of ways you can see details in a dream. Only once have I been so focused at details in a dream that the image was almost real-life like. I say almost because the colors looked dull, almost grayish. Other than that, the dream was crystal clear. After wandering around it became blurry as I got more and more unfocused.

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      Yes, that's exactly my reason why I personally don't categorize my dream by vividness, focus, details, colors and such. There is just way too many combinations. But someone may feel like he wants to do it, and that's fine too. Happy dreams
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      Nice thread, but I really been having trouble with recall. It isn't just dreams my normal memory is horrible and since I've started doing LD my recall was good, I had back to back nights were I remember a dream but the last three days have been nada and I even woke myself up at 3am last night and I forgot it all. It's all just so frustrating and I'm really wondering if I'm cut out for this lucid dreaming business.
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      Hi MrBlonde! For recall, I have found that this really helps: If you can't remember your dreams, TRY THIS!

      It will help with your day time memory and most importantly it should help with your dream recall. If you get good at it and find that you are recalling too much during the day you can just pick a segment of the day to exercise your mind with.
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      Dream recall fluctuates, that's normal.

      You don't have to wake yourself up forcefully at night in attempt to recall a dream. We wake up between sleep cycles, each time after the REM is over. If you tell yourself that you want to start noticing these awakenings, then there is a good chance, that you will. That's the best time to write down your dream, or at least a few sentences or phrases or keywords, that will help you remember the whole dream in the morning.

      A mantra, such as "I remember my dreams", or "I wake up after ever dream and I remember it" can also do wonders. Good luck and happy dreams

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      Fantastic guide. I actually tried out a WBTB just last night, and managed to have 2 vivid dreams in a row. Not lucid, but I'll get there soon.

      I do have a question, though: Is it necessary to picture a certain scenario before going to sleep, much like WILD? If it isn't necessary, is it possible to DILD with a scenario in mind?

      Also, need to try out RC #5, it sounds like a load of fun to use
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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat View Post
      Fantastic guide. I actually tried out a WBTB just last night, and managed to have 2 vivid dreams in a row. Not lucid, but I'll get there soon.

      I do have a question, though: Is it necessary to picture a certain scenario before going to sleep, much like WILD? If it isn't necessary, is it possible to DILD with a scenario in mind?

      Also, need to try out RC #5, it sounds like a load of fun to use
      WBTB works, because when we get up, we wake up our minds, so the mind is more aware during sleep than normally. That's why it's easier to get lucid when waking up too. Good job on those vivid dreams. They can be tons of fun.

      It is ok to visualize when WILDing, of as falling asleep for a DILD. But it's not critical to do so. Especially, if visualizing keeps you awake.

      But, if I tell you, that visualizing is actually not as hard, you may give it a try yourself. True, that you can try and visualize for an advanced technique. But the most simple visualization, that actually works really well, is just simply thinking about your past day, or your fantasy, or some cool older dream. Once you start thinking about it (no need to see what you thinking about), as you get closer to falling asleep, this thinking will kick-start the dreaming process when you WILDing, and it may help you incubate a dream when you DILDing.

      And yeah, # 5. "Try to change something" is my latest RC.

      It got me lucid on few occasions. Simply, because I was so excited when i was practicing it in WL. The possibilities are endless. You can customize it to your liking. My favorite is "if this was a dream, I have a 6-pack in a fridge", or "my tv is 70 inch flat screen", or "me favorite actor is about to walk through my door"...

      Good luck and let us know if you need help. Happy dreams

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      Haha thanks lot fogelbise I'm gonna try that tonight. I did remember a entire dream, actually three different ones since they took place in 3 different places. I just tried asking my unconscious to let me remember my dreams and when I woke up, I felt a little foggy at first and then I remember it and as I kept writing in dj it all came back to me.
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      And I see a new workbook MrBlonde, I will check in with you over there
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      I'd rather do this for great DILDs in the long run than the one I was doing. It just wasn't working out for me. Gotta change my workbook soon... Thanks for the awesome guide, gab!
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      Quote Originally Posted by AstralMango View Post
      I'd rather do this for great DILDs in the long run than the one I was doing. It just wasn't working out for me. Gotta change my workbook soon... Thanks for the awesome guide, gab!
      You can try both and see which one works for you the best. After you try the basic guide, you will most likely find out, what works for you and what doesn't. Then you can adjust or modify it so it works the best for you personally. Good luck and happy dreams

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      You can try both and see which one works for you the best. After you try the basic guide, you will most likely find out, what works for you and what doesn't. Then you can adjust or modify it so it works the best for you personally. Good luck and happy dreams
      I might just use SSILD for getting to sleep, since that actually helps a lot with my insomnia. The rest will be DILD things. Thanks again!
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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      ...

      AWARENESS +RC TECHNIQUE:

      During day, pause what you doing and ask yourself a question "Wow, am I dreaming?" that jolts your attention and makes you stop doing whatever you doing. For a moment, entertain the idea, that you are sure this is a dream or false awakening and feel the excitement in the pit of your stomach. Just pretend, that you have had a lucid dream before that was indistinguishable from waking reality, so this moment could also be a dream and you don't know for sure until you RC. Really consider the answer. Don't just automatically answer "Of course I'm not".

      ..? If not, tell yourself "Next time I'm dreaming, I look at my hands and realize I'm dreaming". Repeat this mantra a few times while looking at your hands.

      ..
      Happy dreams
      Thank you for this fantastic guide - looking at my hand while this mantra in the day seems very good to me - and I didn´t come up with it myself lately - even if I remember having read - and a long time back even used this.
      What is also something important I got from this thread, is not to have too many mantras - I made a mistake there.
      And thank you once more for expressing the RC-feeling so wonderfully once more - and from a different aspect again - this stopping in one´s tracks - I think, I know exactly what you mean!
      Hm - too much excitement irl RC - not bloody likely - or what do you think?


      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      ...

      Special features can be anything that makes this dream different from any other one. Like maybe special colors, or special power you had, or anything unusual. And then you can think about your day and see, if you did anything that day, or before, that may heve triggered that special feature. Or first time you threw a fireball, flew, ate something...
      This I find fun any way - finding the weird way, little daytime residues come floating over from real life!


      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      You know, I don't really have a scale. I don't think many people do. Just because it can be every time so much different.

      I just like to describe what I experienced in detail. Like once I was looking out the window and everything was so clear and vivid and detailed. So I said "wow, look at everything being so detailed", And to my surprise, it got even more detailed and vivid. Even more than in waking life.

      I basically use words like foggy, clear, vivid, detailed, binocular vision, and so on. But you should use your own words to best describe what you saw and felt.
      When you use words in your dreams - aloud? - do you address yourself - or the surroundings - or intone something sometimes?
      I have read different and interesting approaches there.

      Since I had a LD lately, where I shouted "I want it to snow!" and "It snows!" - and it did - I am especially curious as to the actual way, language is used by different people.
      Have you maybe got any tips or experiences to share?


      Quote Originally Posted by fogelbise View Post
      Hi MrBlonde! For recall, I have found that this really helps: If you can't remember your dreams, TRY THIS!

      It will help with your day time memory and most importantly it should help with your dream recall. If you get good at it and find that you are recalling too much during the day you can just pick a segment of the day to exercise your mind with.
      Ah - cool - thanks for that link - fits my poll on daytime journalling.. hehe:
      Who Writes A Diary? Do You Thing Waking Live Journalling Is Good for LD?


      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      ...
      And yeah, # 5. "Try to change something" is my latest RC.

      It got me lucid on few occasions. Simply, because I was so excited when i was practicing it in WL. The possibilities are endless. You can customize it to your liking. My favorite is "if this was a dream, I have a 6-pack in a fridge", or "my tv is 70 inch flat screen", or "me favorite actor is about to walk through my door"...

      Good luck and let us know if you need help. Happy dreams
      Ah - again you are telling yourself something in a way, am I right?

      Super ideas all - I really, really like RC #5 - change something!

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      Thanks for the quick guide that covers most everything that is needed to be known!

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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      WBTB is when you wake up after at least 4.5 hours of sleep, stay up for anywhere from 5-60 min. and then go back to sleep. During this time you need to get out of bed, put on the lights and do something lucid dreaming related (read, go on DV). Stay up only until you can think clearly, but you are still sleepy enough to fall asleep without any problems.
      if I wake up at all I can't fall back asleep.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ryytytut View Post
      if I wake up at all I can't fall back asleep.
      For a DILD, you do NOT need a WBTB. You can do all your practice during day and then reinforce it as you are falling asleep when you go to bed at the beginning of your sleep.

      It does help to wake up though, as it may give you a better chance for a DILD. Even such a short time as going to the restroom. This way, you can say your mantra and set your intent even closer to your REM. (After some hours of sleep, REM will be closer to when you fall asleep. In other words, you do not go through a long MREM period before you get to REM)

      Good luck

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      Quote Originally Posted by ryytytut View Post
      if I wake up at all I can't fall back asleep.
      It is worth noting that studying and practicing relaxation (so that you can fall back asleep in a short amount of time after waking up in the night, either on purpose for a WBTB or accidentally) is extremely valuable for lucid dreaming.
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      Quote Originally Posted by gab View Post
      For a DILD, you do NOT need a WBTB. You can do all your practice during day and then reinforce it as you are falling asleep when you go to bed at the beginning of your sleep.

      It does help to wake up though, as it may give you a better chance for a DILD. Even such a short time as going to the restroom. This way, you can say your mantra and set your intent even closer to your REM. (After some hours of sleep, REM will be closer to when you fall asleep. In other words, you do not go through a long MREM period before you get to REM)

      Good luck
      I can never remember to do RC's
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      Quote Originally Posted by ryytytut View Post
      I can never remember to do RC's
      If you can remember to do RC's whenever you go through a doorway or anytime you feel strong emotions that is a good way to go. You can even do different prospective memory targets each day. Another one I read recently another one is to do an RC anytime you catch yourself daydreaming/lost in thought/having negative thoughts. If the above ideas are difficult for you to get going, then you can use a truly random alarm like that on the Awoken app (Android) that goes off approximately every hour (it's truly random, so you set it off to go off say 14 times during a 14 hour period of the day - sometimes they will be 20 minutes apart and other times they may be 118 minutes apart for example). Although it is a bit of a crutch, it worked for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ryytytut View Post
      I can never remember to do RC's
      You could also get yourself a ring or a bracelet and dedicate it to lucid dreaming. It could be something zen, buddhist, or pretty much anything that would be special to you. Then RC every time you look at it.

      "Everytime I look at my ring, I realize I'm dreaming". Then do your favorite RC, do NOT acknowledge that you are awake, but accept the possibility, that you could be dreaming. Better yet, BELIEVE, that you are.

      The RC could be something related to the ring. Try to "will" it to change it's color, shape, size... Anything that's fun to you.

      RCs are so much fun, because pretty much anything can be an RC. They are personalize them to be something unique, something that has a special meaning to you.

      Good luck!

      Oh, and get ready for a surprise when it (ring...) starts showing up in your dreams : )

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