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      Good luck with them goals.

      I am pretty bust preparing for my child to be born, so I haven't had time to write anything. :/ it will become higher priority when one of you finishes the tasks.

      Well... There are a couple other ways to stabilize than what dutch said. If you would like I could type them out for you tomorrow or Monday. They are ways I have found work for me when I don't remember to stabilize in a dream. I found one out in dream and to be honest it changed my LDing experience and if used in the right way could be the same for you. It doesn't lead to higher cognisance, but it won't prevent you from getting there either.
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      I had a WILD last night. I was in my house, I took a wand out of my pocket and tried making stuff disappear. Nothing. I stayed focused through the whole dream but it still lasted 1 to 2 minutes. I actually noted the time IRL before and after the dream though. I was asleep for an hour. The WILD started just a couple minutes after I went back to bed.

      I also had a DILD but I couldn't do anything because a dog's nose was up my butt and I had to try to figure out what it wanted. It wouldn't talk to me though, it just looked at me.

      I'll try again tonight. I'll try to convince myself that the dream is just a visualization that I have complete control over and use my imagination to try to vaporize the entire world.

      If you have any ideas BrandonBoss, feel free to type them out if you like. I need all the help I could get.

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      What makes lucid dreams different than normal dreams? Some people will tell you that if you are too excited you will wake up, or in your case you have a dream character that makes you wake up. These are just things that go with expectation, so you have to change expectations. I have found 3 ways to do this.

      1) change expectation iwl
      using meditation, will power, or any visualization. It is probably the hardest way , but it simple. Either change your expectation by meditating on the thoughts themselves. Change it by will power, which you probably do a lot without trying, but don't even think about it, and the higher the mental block the harder. or visualize succeeding.

      2) Create something in dream to change it.
      Hukif gave me the idea when he told me that he has an ability to change his thoughts, and thus change things, like making all his dreams consistent (at certain times) or making his dreams always FAs. This made me think that there is way more with dreams that you can change with expectation, and that the reason that LDs are unstable is because we unconsciously think it will be unstable, even before you hear that it is. If touching things, bleh, bleh, bleh make you stable, than why not something easier to do? So I created a watch that has a button on it that when I click the button it stabilizes the dream. It works unless it is the time to wake up (supposedly) if I remember it .

      3) My third thought was that dreams are really stable when we think that they are not dreams right? I realized that when I thought that DCs were real dreamers, or treated the place like it was real, it would last long and sometimes I would even lose track of time. I put it to the test in a dream once and thought that everything in the entire dream world and everyone was just part of my subconscious, but one of them I decided was different. He was a "real" part of my sub. Didn't know what it meant, but my dream quickly went from unstable to stable and lasted for about 30 minutes.

      These are really just ways I do if I remember them. I have a terrible time of remembering dream goals, but if I have a lot of ways to stabilize I will remember one from the list. haha. Hope this helps. Tell me if you have any questions.
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      I picked up 2 more DILDs. I tried flying to space in the first one but couldn't get high enough. I ended up just trying to vaporize some mountains in the distance. I did the same in the second one, only I didn't try flying to space. I tried telling myself that the dream was all a visualization that I had full control over. Still nothing.

      I'll keep trying. Maybe I could get a DC to do it for me.

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      I had a DILD last night. It was nice and long! I couldn't even remember the whole dream but I think it was 4-5 minutes. Towards the end of the dream I remembered the task. I tried summoning a "master of dream control" which I think I did. He was a short, old guy and looked legitimate enough. I asked him to vaporize one of the skyscapers for me. He took out his laser pointer but he looked really skeptical and basically told me he wouldn't do it because it wouldn't benefit the environment . Soon after that the dream ended.

      Hopefully that's a clue from my subconscience that a laser pointer will vaporize stuff. I think I could easily do a pocket summon of a laser pointer and try again. If that doesn't work then I could summon another master of dream control and try again. Hopefully I'm getting close to completing the last task.

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      I had a short WILD this morning. I couldn't do much though because the dream never really stabilized. Usually I'll wait for the vibrations and such to end before getting up and walking around but this time I involuntarily floated from bed and saw a hottie from work which threw me off a bit.

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      Keep in practice! you can do it. If you are sick of the current task, feel free to ask Dutch for a different one. Making things leave that you don't want there is a big part of dream control, active or passive though, so it is something you will want to learn.
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      I want to continue with the task as I feel I'm getting close. How big does the object have to be to complete the task? Could it be as big as a house or does it have to be as big as a mountain?

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      One of the reasons that a mountain is a task is because of the fact that size matters not. I would recommend something big like a mountain to prove to yourself that there is nothing different between a mountain car or cat in the dream world.
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      I had 2 DILDs last night.

      The first one I was distracted by a monkey ghost at my bed. I spend the lucid messing around with it. The dream lasted about a minute.

      The second one I'm pretty sure was a DILD. I was walking back to my bed when I felt my body vibrate as if I was entering a WILD. I waited for a moment to see if they would subside but they didn't so I went back to bed. After they went away I went outside to fly to get a view of the mountains. I saw some mountains so I tried getting rid of them by imagining real hard them not being there. Still nothing. Then I remembered that a bit of anger and aggressiveness helped me complete the passing through the wall task, another one that I struggle with. So I gave it all I got, shouting at the dream. "I WANT TO GET RID OF THE MOUNTAINS!" then a voice said "You can't get rid of the mountains" I said "YES I CAN! I'M DREAMING!" Then somebody gave me a stick of dynamite to place by the mountain to get rid of it. We put the dynamite towards the mountain. Once it detonated though, the scene changed to an empty movie set with just a wood frame. I think this was the dream's way of telling I destroyed not just the mountain but the entire dreamscape! Then I woke up. I'm not sure I completed the task because I never saw the mountain vaporize. I'm pretty sure I got rid of it though, along with everything else! The dream lasted 3-4 minutes.

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      Sounds pretty good to me! Dutch will have the final ruling. We shall be working on the next part of dream control soon (hopefully). Dutch is back I am pretty sure, so when we get some free time we shall get it going. have some fun LDs in the meanwhile. Post any questions about dream control in here.
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      I had a DIELD this morning. I tried summoning hottie from work but got my sister instead . I've should have tried multiple times like I have in the past. My summoning skills have gotten a lot better so I should be able to do this. Maybe tomorrow.
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      I had 3 DILDs this morning, all of which were false awakenings I caught. All of the lucids were about a minute each.

      The first one I tried summoning hottie. At first glance I thought I was successful when I took a closer look I found I wasn't close.

      The second one I tried again. I finally successfully summoned her but she said she had to go to the bathroom. She did give me a little kiss and let me in the restroom with her though so it looks like she's warming up to me.

      The third one I again summoned her successfully. But, this time she was far way in another room enjoying a cocktail. She invited me to join her. So, basically I spent the entire lucid summoning and walking to her.

      I'm getting closer. Hopefully I'll complete my task tonight.
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      I picked up a DILD and a DIELD. Both dreams were a bit darker and nightmarish than usual, probably because of a bit of depression IRL. I didn't have much control. I couldn't summon hottie and anytime I touched another girl it would piss somebody else off. Maybe if I ignored them they would go away?

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      Last night in my lucid I finally remembered to attempt to use a stabilizing technique. I tried rubbing and hands and shouting "Stability now!". I got the same old one minute lucid. I think there's a thread somewhere here on DV with a bunch of stability techniques. I'll try to find it and start to try out a bunch of stuff to see what works.

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      I couldn't find the thread where everybody shares their stabilization techniques.

      I had a WILD, DILD, and DEILD last night. All were about 1 minute. In the DEILD I remembered to try a stabilizing technique. I tried the hand examination one. Only about a quarter to a half of my hand was visible so I tried shouting "Clarity now" but couldn't get anywhere.

      From what I've read around the internet, basically the best way to stabilize a dream is to ground or anchor yourself in the dream. I'm not sure how to do that though without being able to clarify/stablilize the dream in the first place. That must be my problem.

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      A technique which works for me is trying to suck the energy out of the dream around me. I usually widen my stance and then act as if I taking in all the dream energy around me. I can usually see the seen world around me desaturate as purple streams of energy pour into me.
      I tell myself that the energy is what I need to become stabilized in the dream. It boosts my confidence a lot. I'm usually not fond of passive dream control like this and usually revert to a more active or direct method but in this case I really do think it works wonders. If you try to believe in the streams of energy it should both anchor you in the dream and stimulate your senses to help keep you aware.
      The best part is it feels awesome doing it.
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      That sounds interesting dutchraptor! I'll be sure to give it a try once I remember.

      I had a DILD last night, it was a bit longer at about 2 minutes which was nice. The dream ended shortly after I achieved my lucid goal of receiving a back massage by a DC. That got me thinking again that my lucids tend to end once the story of the dream is over, like once I achieve a lucid goal or after I give up on one. I'm thinking for me one of the keys to prolonging the dream is to keep the story of the dream going.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TwilightShawn View Post
      That sounds interesting dutchraptor! I'll be sure to give it a try once I remember.

      I had a DILD last night, it was a bit longer at about 2 minutes which was nice. The dream ended shortly after I achieved my lucid goal of receiving a back massage by a DC. That got me thinking again that my lucids tend to end once the story of the dream is over, like once I achieve a lucid goal or after I give up on one. I'm thinking for me one of the keys to prolonging the dream is to keep the story of the dream going.
      Laberge talked about that a lot in ETWOLD. He said that most of the time people just lose lucidity after achieving goals. Losing the dream is a bigger loss. make some longer goals maybe! Have a philosophical discussion with a DC. Fight DCs until you level up. Haha. Something that might take some time.
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      I had a DILD where finally remembered to try dutchraptors technique of trying to absorb energy from the dream. It didn't work for me. I woke up after about 10-20 seconds. Luckily the next dream I had was another DILD. I was able to chain a couple of activities together (practicing my golf swing and letting a polar bear chase me around my grandma's backyard). I was lucid for about 2-3 minutes which was nice. That's about double the length what my average lucid is. I'll keep trying to improve my skill at creating longer goals chaining them together. It seems to be working.

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      Shame it didn't work! I'm sure you can find a different technique.
      Good to hear that your dreams are lengthening, it's nice when your dreams finally get out of the 1-2 minute stage.
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      Just an update, I've been having lots of lucids, but the last 10 or so have been back from the 2-3 minute range to the 1 minute range. That gets me thinking about stabilization again.

      Today, I developed a new stabilization technique for myself, based on what I've heard about how well focusing on the dream senses works to stabilize the dream. The technique is one where I simultaneously focus on my view, rub my hands, and take a deep breath through my nose and out through my mouth. I might repeat this before pocket summoning a candy and eating it. I take another deep breathe and am good to go. This would allow me to focus on all my dream senses to stabilize the dream. I'm confident it'll work but I still have to test it.
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      I've had 5 lucids since my last post, 4 of them I remembered to try the technique. It doesn't seem to be working too well. The breathing technique didn't work for me. Tonight, during my DEILD I was rubbing my hands, shouting for clarity, saying I was going to a long, awesome, lucid but still woke up after 45-60 seconds. During my nightmare induced DILD the dream ended the moment I stopped to try the technique after flying away from the house.

      So, rubbing or examining my hands doesn't work to stabilize. I guess I'll try chaining lucid tasks again as I've had some success with that.

      I want to transform into a dolphin too, I've made hardly any progress there. Any tips would be great!

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      I had 2 more LDs this morning. The first one I made good progress transforming. I swam right alongside a dolphin and phased into it. I don't know how much I transformed, I still felt my arms and legs, but I swam real fast! My second LD I didn't have any success transforming but I prolonged the dream a bit. At one point I was literally half dreaming, half awake and through will power I got all the way back into the dream. Maybe simply will power is what I need to achieve my goals.
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      In my DEILD this morning, once I got up, I looked around and took note of how everything was blurry and unstable. But, I don't know how to make the dream vivid and stable so I decided to proceed as if nothing was amiss. I phased through the mirror to teleport and woke up. I've had enough of this, lol

      I think I should start to post LDs here so everybody could have the opportunity to help out until I get good at stabilization and control.

      My first goal is to find a reliable routine for me to stabilize dreams. It's conveniently laid out for me right here in this tutorial that BrandonBoss recommends that I'm going to use. It even says how to make the dream vivid!
      My Tutorial for extending Lucid Dream Time. Hours of LD. - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      Upon entering the LD:
      * Immediately take note of all the senses as mentioned earlier.
      1. Take a good look around you, all the bright vivid detail, take in the full sight of everything around you. The more you look at the detail, the brighter and more vivid it will become.
      2. Listen to the sounds around you... really take in and appreciate all the different sounds you hear. If you heard none at first, you were listening with the wrong ears... (the ones in bed)... the more you listen to the sounds and look around you the more the sounds will correspond with the things you see..
      3. Take a nice slow whiff of everything around you... Smell that? Smell the things you are seeing around you.. take a slow whiff though.. you do not want to interrupt your sleep breathing... but smell all the different things around you and really take note of all the variety of smells..
      4. Now, as you walk, feel how amazingly real it feels to move your legs as you walk. Lift your arms up and down a few times, feel the weight of them? Its amazing how that feels..
      5. Rub your hands together, feel the sensation of what that feels like.. feel the walls around you or pick up a rock and feel the sensation and weight of holding it....

      Now, combine all these sense. Intentionally, pick something up, feel the weight of it in your hand, the sensation of holding it and touching it, the vivid detail of it, smell it.. drop it, listen to it thud, or shatter on the floor..
      Now, re-affirm to yourself that you are going to have a nice long awesome lucid experience. Just say this to yourself.. Re-enforce the idea to yourself that you will have a really long Lucid Experience
      For whatever reason, candy comes to find as an object for me to look at, feel, hear, smell and taste. I'm pretty decent at pocket summoning small items.

      This sounds like a nice plan for next time I get lucid. First thing I want to try is to look at everything around me in good detail, seeing if doing that makes everything vivid. Then, I'll pocket summon a candy and look at it, feel it, hear it, smell it, and taste it. Then, if I succeed in stabilizing the dream, I get to summon and flirt with a girl as a reward

      Once I master stabilization, then I will move on to control. My big lucid goal right now which I've been struggling with for months is to fully transform into a dolphin. I want to also improve in other areas as well though, such as telekenisis.

      Time to improve!

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