Thread: Dream Control Kata

This is a good idea. I rehearse becoming lucid in order to get stabilization in and to review goals. It was interesting that in my first LD I reacted instantly to a slow fade-to-grey with spinning, which saved the dream for another 10-15 seconds or so. I knew about spinning, but had not practiced it, but still my reaction was instant....interesting...

I never had had any "void" dreams, so I had nothing ready when it happened, twice. Well I did try one thing but it didn't work. So preparing this also ahead of time could perhaps save a LD!

Interesting idea. Well I do something similar. I always try to remember some dreams and I imagine the situations and possible chances to enter lucid dreaming state.

Oh, perhaps i should visualize myself ignoring attractive DCs

Haha but that also a good way. Get used to think about lucid dreaming every time when you see an attractive DC.

Perform the dream control kata thusly:

1. Begin by taking a knee (kneel on one knee).
2. Close your eyes and become aware of all sounds.
3. Open your eyes and become aware of all sights.
4. Bring your hands together at eye level as if in prayer, but instead of folding them try to push the right index through the left palm.
5. Take a deep breath, open both hands and count your fingers, looking in awe at the resolution of the minutiae.
6. Imagine controlling the light source and making it darker and brighter.
7. Jump up as you try to exhale through a closed mouth, fully expecting to lift off and take flight.

If you are dreaming, commence human flight towards the source. Otherwise regain your balance and become aware of gravity and any other sensations. Remember what you did an hour ago, when and where you last performed DCK.

Originally Posted by Hitokage

Interesting idea. Well I do something similar. I always try to remember some dreams and I imagine the situations and possible chances to enter lucid dreaming state.

Yes that's MILD. Also, besides getting lucid, you can do this with dream control problems. I noticed that when in a LD, it's hard to have the right mindset to succesfuly do the dream control, so rehearsing it is a good idea, like when someone rehearses a presentation

Originally Posted by VagalTone

Oh, perhaps i should visualize myself ignoring attractive DCs

Well that depends on your dream goals .

Or just tell them "hold on a sec", stabilize, and get down to business

That's not a bad idea. A Kata to prepare for a lucid dream could come in handy, especially for beginners.

For someone who's never had a lucid dream before, practicing a Stabilization Kata in anticipation of your first lucid would go a long way to preparing the dreamer for a common pitfall. You'd just need a series of moves specifically chosen to define a 3D environment, that will distribute your attention to create a stable framework to hold the dream.

Wow - great thread!

Having had a lot of ongoings with visiting family and friends - driving around - I did try out your LD-incubation meditation only twice and for some minutes - but I really like it Luoai! Something attractive to sit down with.
I guess this thread will be working like a feeder for this exercise!
Like the recommendations in here already - I was concerned with "stabilizing" first of all - imagining myself RCing and activating all senses - deepening the scenery.
After that - one time I conjured up as good as I could a scenery like I had in a semi-lucid - that was almost heart-breakingly beautiful, amazing vivid colours and detail and a certain feeling with it.
Second time I imagined myself playing with Sivasons tips. I will do that again and report after having tried it out "for real" in a dream!

Just as an aside - I did a slow "spinning" - rather a turning around - in one LD lately. Not as fast as to blur out - that seems to destabilize in my feeling - at least the dream at hand - didn´t try switching scenery with it yet.
Like I did it - the optics of the current dream did improve quite a bit. Like - I saw something - and sort of forced my brain to quickly come up with fitting vistas connecting to the initial one - seems this turning while still seeing stuff got some automatic scheme production going.
Unfortunately I don´t find a better way to express, what I mean at the moment..
Whatever - it made the sight clearer and the scenery "deeper".

That's awesom Steph!
About that LD-meditation-incubation technique, I used it when I was very emotional to get a LD about a certain topic, and that is when it worked. I literally fell in tears wanting that LD! I guess this technique is great when you really want a LD you would kill. Other than that, it turns out that I suck in incubating a dream:p. I would recommend this technique for enhancing visualization skills, but for inducing a LD, better if your despirate:p. It's not that it has any special thing, I just thought it would be smart to meditate and incubate a desired dream rather than just wanting it. It's like incubating a desired dream and getting the closest taste possible to it by visualizing it in meditation to increase your motivation. But now I have chosen to build my fundemantals(self-awareness, memory) and do some RC, R-I, WBTB, MILD to really practice efficiently, so I droped all extra technique, and it's paying off!! I had my 5th LD last night! I tryed the spinning to create a new dream scene, but with no prevail, but opening a door almost worked to get me to the dream I always craved for(between you and me, it isn't flying as mentioned in my DJ, but rather some mysrical adventure I want to experience).
And the dream control kata is better replaced with tholey's combined technique if you have a good prospective memory^^!

I've successfully performed done dream body awareness stabilization, which I practiced ahead of time in waking life, in two LDs. In one, it led to my longest most vivid LD yet, in another, it helped with stabilization but the dream still ended quickly, as soon as my attention left my body and I started to perform a behind-the-back summon. I've been trying to figure out why this dream ended so suddenly. It could have been that I was already waking up (it was a late morning LD), and my dream body stabilisation extended the LD only as long as my dream-body awareness remained high I did not do a sense-survey of the surroundings following the body pat-down , which may have been the key thing I missed, and may have been why I lost the dream -- My self-awareness and memory were good, and I had my dream body, but I wasn't established in the environment perhaps...?

Maybe you should try Sivason's stabelization technique, although I think it's hard. Try to focus on an object very deeply , like you never saw that object before in your life. You want to make the dream only contain you and the object. You can say you want the object you wanted to summon be there when you return focus to the whole dream scene. I hope I'm not mistaken in any aspect of this technique.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

It could have been that I was already waking up (it was a late morning LD), and my dream body stabilisation extended the LD only as long as my dream-body awareness remained high I did not do a sense-survey of the surroundings following the body pat-down , which may have been the key thing I missed

I think you're right.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

That's not a bad idea. A Kata to prepare for a lucid dream could come in handy, especially for beginners.

For someone who's never had a lucid dream before, practicing a Stabilization Kata in anticipation of your first lucid would go a long way to preparing the dreamer for a common pitfall. You'd just need a series of moves specifically chosen to define a 3D environment, that will distribute your attention to create a stable framework to hold the dream.

Could you expand on this a bit please?
How would you go about systematically defining a full sensory 3D environment?