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      How to control fully?

      Past few days have been very successful for me - every morning I wake up around 10:10, fall asleep again after 10min, experience lucid dream almost immediately and it ends at 10:50. It is very surprising because previously I've never experienced lucid dreams so frequently and fully.

      But there is some problem. For example, my last lucid dream this morning - when the dream started, everything was very bright and vivid, I saw every detail, but in that beginning, dream was non-lucid. When I became lucid, the dream instantly turned blurry, vividness was gone. I whispered ''Clarity, please'', nothing happened. Then I said it loudly, nothing happened either. I tried to stabilize(spinning, rubbing hands), but it didn't help. I felt really confused and slightly disappointed, so I stopped trying to stabilize the dream and went elsewhere to do random things. At the end, I wanted to meet my best friend, but the dream gave me some ugly guy, who wasn't similar to friend at all. I kept asking for my friend and the dream kept showing me many people, some of them were slightly similar to my friend but still I didn't see a perfect copy of him...

      How to stabilize the dream so the controlling isn't lagging like that? Or what did I do wrong?
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      Hi,

      Has this happend more than once?
      Sometimes dreams tend to have low quality and sometimes they are just real-life alike or might be in the middle .
      Maybe this attempt was just unlucky and your next lucid dream will have better quality.

      I'm no expert on Dream Control but maybe changing the way you try to induce clarity or spawn dc should do the job
      Once ago FryingMan helped me with problem that i had when i tried to spawn DC.

      Here's his awesome post:
      Quote Originally Posted by FryingMan View Post
      It's important to cultivate the strong belief that the person is really there behind you, behind a door, etc., it is more than just a "wish". The right mindset is that of creating a "fake memory" in your mind: behave like you just remembered that they're there, then turn to see them.

      My first few "around the corner / behind the door" summons also failed, I think because it was more a wish than a solid belief. The thing that worked for me was (Dolphin's I think, where I first read it) technique: reach a hand behind your back, call to your desired DC to take your hand, then slowly bring your hand around to in front of you in the solid belief that they are there, holding your hand.
      So instead of asking, wishing or beliving that somthing might happen.
      Have full confidence and be sure that it will happen

      And for spawning near-perfect or perfect copy of specific person in dream you can try to imagine him before attempting to summon.
      That's what i myself do if i remember correctly

      If still after the spawning, DC would look inperfect you can try to turn back, imagine or visualize how he should look like and after doing so tell yourself that DC behind you will perfectly look like this visualization of yours. And then turn back to him.

      Sorry if my words were a little unclear, i guess i'm just a bit tired,
      Hopefully i was able to help
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      Thanks for answer, MisakaMikoto!

      Yes, that frustrating inability to control and experience the dream fully happens from time to time. And sometimes, when I become lucid, I forget how to stabilize and successfully stay lucid.

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      If you want some extra safety incase of forgetting to stabilize you can use a DEILD Method or so called Dream Chaining,
      Just learning to wake up without moving and while keeping eyes closed should do the job.

      If your lucid dream ends prematurely due to destabilizing.
      DEILD should safe the day
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      If you try to hard to maintain control you will wake up but if you don't try hard enough you can't dream control. What you are trying is what I call direct dream control. You consciously change something in your dream but run the risk of overdoing it and waking up. One I have been using the past few years is what I call complete dream control. It is the use of tulpas to subconsciously feel out the threads you are subconsciously emitting to produce your dream and being able to manipulate those threads to make my dreams do whatever I want while mainly thinking about it subconsciously therefor less likely to wake yourself up. You can also use the tulpa to help make you lucid by having it remind you that it is a dream.
      The main part of controlling nightmares it to kick logic out and make the impossible possible.

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