WILD exhaustion

**lunagoddess** · 03-12-2015 06:11 PM

This past week I have had several WILDs. Once I feel the vibrations and notice that I have a particularly clear mental picture of something, I somehow immerse or propel myself into it. I don't know how else to describe it, but that's what it feels like. As though my body is a magnet and I have to push myself away from it mentally. That alone exhausts me, although it happens in seconds. My consciousness feels stunted. I am aware, but not like when I'm fully awake or having a DILD. So being conscious within the dream (making choices, thinking about stabilization, remembering what I want to do, etc.) exhausts me even further. All of the exhaustion makes it difficult for me to maintain a lucid for longer than a minute. Has anyone else experienced this? I would appreciate any feedback or tips. Thanks!

**Hitokage** · 03-27-2015 09:45 AM

Exhausted? What do you mean exactly? You feel like tired in the dream?

**ThreeCat** · 03-27-2015 05:41 PM

I don't think you can actually be exhausted in a dream, so it is more of a mental state. You could remind yourself that you're asleep, and that your mind is recharging right now. You could also stop paying attention to the exhaustion. Either of those could make the feeling go away.

**Verre** · 03-28-2015 08:04 AM

Are you using galantamine? Galantamine sleep is hardly sleep at all. If that's not it, then perhaps it's more likely to be a mental than physical condition, as others have suggested... or maybe you're somehow replicating the effects of galantamine through your WILD rituals.

**Sageous** · 03-28-2015 05:22 PM

Perhaps your consciousness is indeed stunted, Lunagoddess.

As 3Cat already said, you probably cannot become physically exhausted during a dream, as it simply does not work that way. But you can feel that way, especially during WILDs or during LD's that occur very close to waking. I often have a sensation of sluggishness, that I can barely stay awake, and every movement or decision takes an extra effort -- sort of like the feeling you might have after watching TV until, say, 4am, and ought to be in bed but now lack the strength to even get up.

My half-assed and probably incorrect theory on why this happens is that you are too connected with your physical body, and are actually experiencing its physical symptoms of sleep. In other words, a big part of your mind now thinks you've just woken up in the middle of the night and is sending the signals of "You're supposed to be asleep," like that 4am feeling I mentioned above. Those symptoms would certainly include what you described in your OP.

How to get past this, I think, basically involves getting on with your dream. As 3Cat already said, the best bet is to not pay attention to the exhaustion, and focus instead on your dream. Try to allow a certain separation between your dreaming self and your sleeping self, and make that exhaustion unimportant. Hopefully this will lead to your senses and abilities perking up a bit, which will then allow that separation to widen, and your LD to be more accessible.

**lunagoddess** · 03-30-2015 12:33 AM

I was referring to mental exhaustion. I hadn't taken anything but Ezov. You guys are probably right, it's probably because I'm not deeply asleep and still have a conscious attachment to my sleeping body, which would be why my physically movements feel so heavy and tiring. I know that grounding myself within the dream would be the ideal thing to do, but I generally just don't have the mental energy to push through. Thanks for the feedback