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      Marijuana and Lucid Dreaming

      To start off i'm not asking if smoking pot does or does not affect your dream recall because i know for a fact that it does...in a bad way..

      I'm posting this thread wondering if there any other regular marijunana smokers who have trouble recalling their dreams that are active on this website. Recently i've decided to induldge in the LD community again and hopefully experience some more lucids. Now i can't really do that if i'm not getting any dream recall. Most of the time i like to (almost need to) go to sleep high. it pretty much crashes me out but always blacks all my dreams out too.

      So if you're having this problem too..explain
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      Yeah i use go to sleep stoned all the time, just because it gets the job done and well your high. I always woke up just feeling great, probably from all the good sleep but as for dreaming im not sure, Its probably because ur not focusing on dreams or dreaming for that matter. So yeah just try to focus more on dreaming...even tho ur high.

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      i'll try that but i read somewhere ( i think on this site a long time ago) that when you go to sleep high that it actually supresses your REM cycle which is the period where you have dreams basically..or atleast your most vivid dreams. But i also discovered that if you go to sleep stoned for a while that if you don't for a couple days, you will have a REM rebound and your dreams will be even more vivid than normal. I've experienced this once when i didn't have any pot for like a week and it was pretty great.
      the only problem was that it was hard to get to sleep without getting high =[
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      Yeah thats most likely true, the only thing you could really do is experiment with it and see what happens.

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      Yeah I smoked weed every day for about a year and I had maybe 2 dreams in that whole period of time.
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      Taking naps high is the best way to dream. I almost had a WILD after ripping some bong. I was visualizing / drawing the alphabet in my head (imagining myself moving my arm and trying my damndest to see each letter in my head), from a to z, and once I got to z, I entered sleep paralysis, but then my gf moved around and I got distracted. So I gave up on trying to WILD that night, but ended up having a lucid dream anyways. I probably slept for an hour and a half.

      My dream started with me in her bed, trying to sleep, then she came back from the bathroom, and then she came back from the bathroom again, so there were two of her. I was like "holy shit, wtf!" then I realized I was dreaming.
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      so it sounds like some of you can relate to me i guess. i think i'm going to stop smoking for maybe 1 week again and see how much it affects my dream recall / rate of lucid dreams.
      LD Count: 8
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      Current Goals: Try dream drugs. Perform a FILD at this hotel i'm staying at..

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      I used to be an avid pot smoker and rarely ever remembered my dreams. Recently I've quit smoking and in only a week I've already had 2 lucid dreams and remembered just about each dream every night.
      The only thing I know for sure... is that I know nothing at all.

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      Im glad you posted this. I recently cut back on smoking for lding and its been the best thing ever. It was soooo hard for me to cut back since I smoked alot everyday for the last 13 years. My biggest problem was the insomnia, weed is an amazing sleep aid and without it I get terrible insomnia. Fourtenately I realized that as long as I do a certain amount of exercise everyday I can sleep without it. With the extra energy I got from cutting back smoking, it became easy to exercise. I still smoke, but I only do it once or twice a week, which is what I remember telling myself I was going to do when I started 13 years ago in the first place =). Since I cut back my lds have gotten insanely more frequent, vivid, longer, etc. Weed is still my favorite drug of all time for lots of reasons, but now I understand that everything comes at cost, even the miraculous marijuana. No drug can give you something for nothing, there is always a catch, with weed the catches are relatively benign, but still definitely substantial.
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      As a frequent pot smoker, I have mixed feelings about how my dreams are affected. I've stopped smoking pot for months at a time to see how it would affect my dream recall. I remember more dreams [I]per night[I] when I don't smoke, but that's not to say it's impossible to have dream recall when you smoke pot. I think it all depends on your mind frame. Smoking or not, I find that I remember the most dreams when I'm focused on it and think about it a lot daily as well as before I go to sleep.

      I know smoking can reduce your REM, but it's also entirely possible to have lucid dreams and dreams in general during non-REM sleep so don't let non-REM sleep discourage your herb lovers. I often have dreams immediately after falling asleep - even if I've smoked pot.
      "You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later."
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      Ya I agree kaeraz, I've been a frequent smoker for a few years.. and I dont really remember any dreams in the last few years, except for the ones after I took an interest in LDing. Once I started working on my recall and stuff, it really has gotten progressively better.

      I dont believe my recall is anywhere near good/perfect, but I think if you pay enough attention to it you will be able to get more then enough recall to at least have a dream or two every night.

      I will say that even the times I stop smoking for a few days, my recall spikes up.. and is much better, but its defiantly not impossible to LD if you smoke a little bud. I find its a great assistant during WILDs. Makes me just very relaxed, clear state of mind.. but its very possible to fall asleep early

      I mean its a great motivator for some people to quit, but I found it just wasnt necessary for me. Smoking right before bed has just become to normal for me, love it.

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      Keep a dreamjournal! This is the key to gain awareness of dreams. When you do keep a dreamjournal, it doesn't matter that much if you smoked or not, it does effect dreamrecall, but when keeping a dreamjournal you will remember most anyway. I smoke often, and I can usually remember up to 3 dreams, unless I was really high. Smoking makes wilding really easy imo, you should try WILDing when high.. it's fast and easy, and your only enemy is concentration!
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      I was gonna post about weed the other day. But thought best not.

      Last week I had 3 LDs!!! and I was stoned when I went sleep. I find it helps me.

      Also attempting WILD when stoned is amazing. My muscles relax within minutes. I normally always have a joint before I go to sleep. My dream recall is fine.

      I also had an LD the other week when drunk!! it only lasted a few minutes like but I was lucid! :]
      In very many cases, the visionary quality, the quality of the vision so to say, spills over, into the external world, so that the experiencer, when he opens his eyes, sees the outer world transfigured...

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      I forgot to mention that a huge factor in why marijuana suppresses lds for me is that I eat way more food, and that in its self really hinders my lds. Even when I haven't smoked, but happen to over eat, I notice a huge difference. But when I smoke I can't resist over eating. I eat 3 to 4 lbs of food a day on weed, without it I typically eat 1 to 1 1/2 lbs. So if marijuana doesn't greatly enhance your appetite like it does for me, then it might not be as big of a deal for you to cut back. But the difference for me has been amazing, since I cut back smoking theres no longer a question of will I have lds each night, its just how many and for how long.
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      that makes sense because i find that when i eat less i think clearer. when one's body isnt working to digest food, it greatly improves one's awareness and ability to understand, perfect for lucid dreaming. thats why i always go by the old saying to "eat breakfast for yourself, share lunch with a friend, and give your dinner to your enemy"
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      Quote Originally Posted by on a lonely screen View Post
      that makes sense because i find that when i eat less i think clearer. when one\'s body isnt working to digest food, it greatly improves one\'s awareness and ability to understand, perfect for lucid dreaming. thats why i always go by the old saying to \"eat breakfast for yourself, share lunch with a friend, and give your dinner to your enemy\"
      It\'s funny, I\'ve found that same thing to be true with myself. If I\'ve got an exam or a test or whatever, I actually don\'t eat a big breakfast ( the opposite of what is recommended ) and as a result I tend to be more focused.
      Chillax, broski.

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      bein a tru OG from new jersey, i prolly smoke more weed in a day than a cigarette smoker does tobacco. being such a habitual smoker, it doesnt affect me in many ways. i eat just as much usually, but i drink much more. i usually drink some chocolate milk after my bedtime blunt. i go to sleep blazed as F*** and i still remember about 3-7 dreams a night, and sometimes more. it also helps me get to sleep, as it does most people. im an insomniac and maryjane has been helping me to sleep ever since i knew what it was. the only thing in my mind that it hinders is my concentration in my dreams. i have a great sense for telling dreams from reality, and end up DILD almost everynight. the thing is, i basically have MAJOR A.D.D. in my dreams. i think its the pot. haha. sometimes i end up gaining lucidity, forgetting about it, and re-gaining it later in the dream, but only to forget again that im dreaming... hahaha. so yea. thats my input on weed and dreams.

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      I am a frequint smoker. In order to remember my dreams but have marijuana effect me in a possitive way while I am in dream state I will smoke at the least an hour and a half before I'm going to sleep. I find your over the high and coming down, in which case your heavy and fall into sleep quickly.

      Helping your body feel heavy to induce a dream state is easier when your mildly high or burnt out. Although a few times I have slipped into a SP and found it hard to get out and shake the feeling.

      Sleeping immediatly after a session can mess with your dreams a little. Less makes sense in your actions. It's harder to see faces and remember conversations as well. Perhaps it's the finer details of your dreams thats missing.

      If you do smoke right before bed then I'd have something with vitamin C in it, this will perk your mind and sugar. Water always helps as well.

      P.S. This is only my opinion.. everyone gets to their state differently.
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      Has anybody tripped and fallen asleep and had LDs. I'm reading carlos castaneda and apparently he used mushrooms on some of his students and focused them to lucid dream and it apparently tenfold then heightened state of awareness awareness. I would love to read someones experience if they have done it.
      Before you drift off, don't forget. Which is to say, remember. Because remembering is so much more a psychotic activity than forgetting. Federico Garcia Lorca in a poem said that the iguana will bite those who do not dream. And as one realizes that one is a dream figure in another person's dream, now THAT is SELF AWARENESS.

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      Quote Originally Posted by NaturalLight322 View Post
      Has anybody tripped and fallen asleep and had LDs. I'm reading carlos castaneda and apparently he used mushrooms on some of his students and focused them to lucid dream and it apparently tenfold then heightened state of awareness awareness. I would love to read someones experience if they have done it.
      I had a load of acid.. which didn't go too well.. but fell asleep and had the most intense realistic dream ever... which followed on with the story from my trip when I was awake. I kept waking up.. (I was in a hospital.. lol it went that bad) and when I fell asleep the dream would follow on from real life. Which was crazy.

      I think I'm gonna attempt a WILD next time I have some shrooms. I can imagine it would go well.
      In very many cases, the visionary quality, the quality of the vision so to say, spills over, into the external world, so that the experiencer, when he opens his eyes, sees the outer world transfigured...

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      Cool, I've done shrooms a few times, and Im also reading Carlos Castaneda atm, i'm at the second book. I didn't know you could use shrooms to induce lucid dreams tho ^^ too bad you have to wait a whole month before the shrooms have some effect again
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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      too bad you have to wait a whole month before the shrooms have some effect again

      ??

      wha?
      In very many cases, the visionary quality, the quality of the vision so to say, spills over, into the external world, so that the experiencer, when he opens his eyes, sees the outer world transfigured...

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      god i hate these topics. there are so many of you pot smokers making these topics that all you have to do is go to the second page and bump one.
      "everything in life must come to an end, preferably in a humongous explosion"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jdog View Post
      god i hate these topics. there are so many of you pot smokers making these topics that all you have to do is go to the second page and bump one.
      no. u still trip out from taking shrooms within the month. its just the damage done to your brain if u take shrooms more than once a month is possible to be irreversible... so just dont be trippin on shrooms daily.. or weekly really. haha

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      I smoke almost every day of the week and I find that I'll have the same dream recall ratio as if I haven't for a week or more. But what I do find is that it makes it so much harder to LD because I can't keep any form of concentration, let alone make the decision that I am dreaming.

      Theres no dream like the dream of reality.

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