There are many ways to go about this and I encourage you to come up with a few that suite you through experimentation. I will share my two favorites with you so you can get started. |
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Hi everyone, Many of you have read this material before. If so, then you have a head start. Some of you are probably suprised I called the basic skills basic! I know this stuff can take months or more to get good at. Here is your first mega-challenge! Visualization training. Do not become frustrated if you seem to stall at even the very first steps involved. The intermediate skills take months of work. I hope everyone, whether posting in work books or just studying on the side, will be able to accept that this is an art and will take a long time to develop. It is an amazing skill, that really makes you start to question. |
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There are many ways to go about this and I encourage you to come up with a few that suite you through experimentation. I will share my two favorites with you so you can get started. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 06-24-2012 at 10:28 PM.
1) Visual. Lay in bed in the dark while fully awake and aware. Close your eyes. It is not really black is it? If you only see black, be patient, most people will start to see tiny specks of color or even blurs and dots of color. Perfectly normal at this point. I have only met one person who could not see some tiny flecks moving around. Step one: Just watch them for a couple nights. Become more aware that the colors are there. Step two: Try to cause one color to be more prevelant. Some colors will be more natural for you. If the most common random color is blue, start with blue, and so on. While watching the normal flecks, start thinking about things of that color. For blue maybe day dream about looking into the ocean. For red maybe day dream about looking into a glass of red wine. Watch the visual field as you do this. You should notice that the amount of that color will increase, maybe even appearing as whole sections of the visual field having that color of light shone on them. This may take awhile, or be very easy. Step three: Get to where you can increase the amount of two more colors, and try switching back and forth between them. Now more red, switch to visualizing blue and so on. Step four: Try to cover the entire visual field with mostly one color. Step five: Now picture common geometric shapes. For instance, two crossing lines, or a circle. At first any color randomly, then when you get that, the color you choose. Step six: Get to where you can create a shape of a chosen color on a back ground of a chosen color. After that make up more steps on your own. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 06-24-2012 at 10:30 PM.
2) Tactile (touch) Lay in bed fully awake. Step one: Try to feel your fingers without touching them. You are recieving impulses from every part of your body, but filter out most of it. Get to where you can preceive each of the fingers of you right hand with out moving them. Step two: Slowly open and close your right hand. Really pay attention to how it feels. Try to experience it in fine detail. Now stop actually doing the movement. Try to remember how it felt. Go back and forth between doing the movement and trying to recreate the feeling of doing it. Step three: after you can actually clearly picture how the motion should feel, try visualizing each finger moving one at a time. Go back and forth between really moving it and trying to recreate the feeling of moving it. Step four: Now do the same thing, but move your whole arm and hand. A simple waving motion or something like that. Go back and forth between actually making the motion, and trying to recreate the feeling. After you get that far, make up other similar moves on your own. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 06-24-2012 at 10:30 PM.
Be patient, some people will be able to do these things in as little as a week, while others may struggle with it for much longer. You are trying to exercise the portion of your brain that creates dreams. No matter how long it takes to get through the two exercises I just listed the whole process is actively developing the needed portion |
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How to use Visualization to Help You WILD: |
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Last edited by Sivason; 06-24-2012 at 10:36 PM.
I will be awarding Hall Points for good or insightful posts in student's work books. Each 'Gold Star' is now worth 50 Hall Points! |
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Last edited by Sivason; 06-24-2012 at 11:01 PM.
This lesson is very difficult and may take months to develop. As a result, the students have not had too much to say so far. I will leave the thread closed for now and give an extra month for you all to develop it a little more. |
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OK! Time to open the thread to non-students questions and comments. I know everyone will still need many months of practice at this one, but get ready for a new skill to be added. Remember I can teach skills much faster than they can be learned. This is hard stuff, so go ahead and work on them over many months. The class may take over a year for most students. No one is progressing extra slowly! Keep a good mind set, you do not live in a monistary and you have the distractions of daily life, so cut your selves some slack and enjoy the training, even if it takes you many many months. |
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It was interesting for me when I learned that the neuronal distribution along the brain for both sensory and motion neurons, shared the same areas. It explained a lot to me about how we can recreate the motion with our dreaming mind. I didn't know that I was training my dreaming brain when I played to feel my arm or legs moving when they actually were motionless. Now I can do that with not much effort, and after reading this thread, I know that it wasn't useless at all. About visualization, definitively I will go on with this 'boring stuff' I used to do from time to time, although now, I will be more consequent due to I know it is a very useful exercise. |
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Last edited by Box77; 08-07-2012 at 06:44 PM.
No problem, I like to spread knowledge where ever I can. The sense of smell is a real challenge for me. I do better while awake than in dreams. Sageous offers this conclusion, the sense of smell from waking life does not get shut off in sleep, because of a primal defensive mechanism. So, he congectures, that while I am attempting to simulate a smell in an LD, it is mixing with the normal smells present where I am sleeping. Hearing is a fun one to play with, you can get to a point in deep meditation, where you can almost perfectly recreate favorite music. |
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Usually I'm kind of playing back in my head some segments of my favorite music along the day. I think this play back could be useful as an exercise too. |
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Last edited by Box77; 08-09-2012 at 03:30 PM.
This is amazing and valuable stuff. Thanks for sharing! |
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This material has opened many doors for my meditation practice. I didn't have many places to look for guidance on lucid dreams and meditation, and I'm thankful that you have helped to set me on a path, Sivason. I may begin a workbook in the future, but for now I'm just studying and developing a root for practice. |
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Hey Sivason! A great way to practice visualization is to stare at a gif of noise [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp...7ovlo1_500.gif] while meditating. You can work on making shapes/colors/scenes in the noise and even work on moving/rotating chunks of the noise. Try it out, it actually works really well! |
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Hey Sivason, Thank you for this visualization tutorial, I am actually going to take advantage of the fact that I don't go to sleep as soon as I go to bed to actually try this out every night in that time. I will possibly post results of it later. |
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Last edited by imJB; 11-26-2013 at 07:43 AM.
That is wonderful! Give it time, as in months. You can develop that region of the brain this way, and IMHO that is one of the secrets to very high end dream skills. Have fun! |
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I actually read this thread many months ago but dismissed the exercises within as I had always considered myself to be a great visualizer. Recently, however, I decided to read through it carefully again and I stopped to think about the section where you describe different modalities of visualization. It made me realize that I am only good at a few modalities (touch, taste, proprioperception, aural) but actually quite terrible at visual visualization. I will describe how and why I think I had this deluded impression of my own skills so that other people might evaluate themselves similarly... |
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Last edited by bluremi; 12-04-2013 at 07:00 PM.
Hey guys this happened before I read this post i only just discovered this great forum. Before I describe what I saw I wanted to say I wasn't ever aware of these colours and i did not see them or notice them at all before I read about them. I was trying to force myself to see them for a few nights in bed but the best i could see was a faint light, kind of like a dull torch on a black wall, and then I was there focusing and trying to imagine when all of a sudden a Fluor green orb appeared in my mind rotating around around and my heart started to beat really fast and I could feel I was getting excited but before I got too excited this amazing read circle appeared under it. This spun around for a while and i just got way too excited and then they dissapeared and I snapped out of my trance. Just wanted to post for the the people who have doubts that they can't see the colours because I had never seen them at all. I'll be following everyone's posts here from now on.. Thanks a lot |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
I took notes & will start working this into my individual study program I've made for myself. I do wish you still had the classes available though, darn. |
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“The dream is the small hidden door in the deepest and most intimate sanctum of the soul, which opens to that primeval cosmic night that was soul long before there was conscious ego and will be soul far beyond what a conscious ego could ever reach.”― C.G. Jung
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