Hehe, had to reread through this. I was drunk when I posted it. Probably should move this to senseless banter. |
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I mean have things look as though they are real. Like you can't tell your eyes are closed. Earlier today after I woke up I closed my eyes for a while. I tried seeing things. For short moments I actually saw stuff. It was not just closing my eyes and seeing black or just imagining something. I mean I can still imagine what different food tastes like or what something looks like. But I actually saw something. I guess people who meditate for years are able to do this, but do it as much as they want. They can actually have lucid day dreams so to speak. |
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Hehe, had to reread through this. I was drunk when I posted it. Probably should move this to senseless banter. |
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nah its fine here =) Sometimes I can see things too, it starts out fuzzy and in black and white, usualy high contrast, and then it starts to resolve into a color more detailed image. If I realx but keep my wits and watch I can usualy WILD. |
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Thst is the inward eye, I do that aswell. |
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Sometime as I'm lying in bed, trying to go to sleep, I realize I can see through my closed eyelids. It's kind of like seeing with night vision goggles. |
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Plenty of times. It usually happens when I take a nap. It's extremely easy for me to do... all I have to do is think about it while drifting off and soon I'll start seeing where my head is turned. But it's never exact. It's usually blurry, somewhat dark, and somehow offset (either closer, further, or just off angle). |
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When i was like 5 years old or so and i woud close my eyes i woud see alot of colors and things flying around passing my view like tables, chairs, dogs, cars, clothes, people, doors, bad tubs, deers, pictures, bedsheets, weapons, scenes of things that i have done in my live, black holes, planets, stairs, etc etc etc... i woud see everything even horrifying things, somtimes even hear voices faintly saying things |
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Yeah, sometimes the angle is off with me as well. The first few times it happened, I opened my eyes to check what I was seeing against what was really there. Everything in the room was the same, but the blankets on my bed didn't match what I was seeing. |
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the brain circuits used by imagination and sensory data are the same - your brain does not know the difference... |
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"you only lose what you cling to"
I guess something like this happens to me when I am close to WILDing. I will have the sensation of my eyes being closed, but I can see my body, my position and my room. The same is true of paralysis. |
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Yea, its called hypnogogia---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia |
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Last edited by malac; 07-02-2008 at 03:31 AM.
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Ive done this for years, I always see things while I daydream/meditate I think its sorta like wilding. I tried to figure this out here once last year but didn't get very far. it is pretty cool to be able to do though. |
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yeah its fun to freak people out by doing things with your eyes closed. i do it in school sometimes i'm just like, what? i can see perfectly it helps alot in the dark too.i always win at hide and seek lol.technically its not cheating with a flashlight.... |
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Cusp. No. I'm actually correct and you're talking about something else. Seeing through your eyelids? Are you and like one other person the only ones describing such a phenomenon, whilst everyone else is perfectly relating to hypnogogia. Remember, REM is still active for long periods of time, thus its only natural to have vivid like imagery. Everyone experiences it. If you truly are talking about something else, my apologies, as I probably should've remembered that this IS the "Beyond dreaming" section...... |
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Last edited by malac; 07-03-2008 at 05:20 AM.
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Somebody's sure of themselves. I have 17 years of dreaming experience, and believe me, I know the difference between hypnogogic/hypnopompic states and reality. Unlike most people on this site, I don't consider lucidity to be the "be all, end all" of dreaming, and I've spend a ridiculous amount of time researching these matters. |
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sometimes, when i close my eyes, i see weird shapes, almost as a foreign alphabet. |
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Its called hypnagogic imagery. It happens kinda on the border of awake/asleep. It happens to me all the time. I think it usually happens to people that mess with different states of conciousness, like us LDers. I also meditate and other stuff, so even more for me. I'll be laying there and whatever I think I'm looking at, I'll start to see it. I'll be seeing my floor, and I'll be like "Wait. But my eyes are closed" |
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Now why would Hypnagogic imagery be an accurate representation of your surroundings? HI consists of random stuff like evil clowns or hearing voices, pretty much the same symptoms as schizophrenia. Have you ever had any other HI that were identical, where you saw the same thing? I've certainly never heard of such a thing happening. |
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Last night I tried to sleep for 6 hours, and 4 hours into this failed attempt, while trying really hard to fall asleep, I saw a brief flash of a man with a mustache and glasses staring into my eyes from inches away from my face. It was so unexpected, it scared me. That was the first thing I've ever seen that looked real with my eyes closed but still awake. In case you were wondering, he had an evil mustache. |
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Yes, I do see lots of random stuff too. Like crumpling pieces of paper, random old ladies laughing, etc. But a lot of the time I see where I think I am, just because thats what I'm focused on seeing, even that my eyes are closed. What I get here is HI. You just interpreted it wrong. I dont get the same thing every time. I can even get into this state on command. It just takes me a few minutes. |
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Last edited by Tricky; 07-12-2008 at 01:07 AM.
In my experience I can't maintain HI if I start moving around. When I see with my eyes closed, I can get up and break dance if I want to, yet still be able to see that like I have night vision goggles. I see it the exact same way every time. |
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