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      I owe income taxes?

      How could I possibly owe taxes when I only make $10 an hr and my mom pays for my car and student loans are kicking my butt? I'm not even making 15k a year - but I OWE taxes? I dont understand how that is even possible.

      I'm on turbo tax and one second its telling me I qualify for a refund the next its telling me I owe money? WHAT?

      I really needed that refund too

      Whats going on?

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      I would double check things, since if you had money automatically taken out to pay taxes each month, you should still get a refund. That said, the cut off line is like 8,000 or something a year. If you make more than that, you have to pay taxes. It is a myth that poor people don't have to pay income tax, they do. You have to be almost living on the street to get a break.

      Which of course is why I am supporting Ron Paul, who wants to get rid of all income tax.
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      Maybe you screwed up your W-4 when you started your current job and they haven't been taking the right amount from your checks.

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      Ah, I love the sound of liberal college kids getting crushed with the realization that THEY TOO have to pay taxes.
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      Cmind don't be retarded, taxes get taken out automatically from your paycheck. It would shock anyone who isn't receiving dividends on capital gains that they owe taxes and don't get a refund.
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      Did you only do a 1040? Because you should be able to file your return from your school and that should bring in 1k.

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      That works on so many levels, UM.
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      cmind liking UM is probably the least surprising event to have occurred so far this century.
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      Vote for Ron Paul & you shouldn't have to pay in the future

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      cmind liking UM is probably the least surprising event to have occurred so far this century.
      I think there may be some things we disagree on, but I can't be sure without knowing more about his views.

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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      Ah, I love the sound of liberal college kids getting crushed with the realization that THEY TOO have to pay taxes.
      Maybe next time you should read the post before responding to it. It'll make it much easier to not sound like an ass.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cmind View Post
      I think there may be some things we disagree on, but I can't be sure without knowing more about his views.
      I'm guessing you two will be exchanging vows by the end of the week

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      Quote Originally Posted by DuB View Post
      Maybe you screwed up your W-4 when you started your current job and they haven't been taking the right amount from your checks.
      Quote Originally Posted by Auron View Post
      Did you only do a 1040? Because you should be able to file your return from your school and that should bring in 1k.
      W-2 and 1098-Es?

      I dunno how I can screw up a W-4, I mean all I do is put my address, put a 1 here and there, sign it

      Its not a lot more the government is asking for. I'm just confused! This is my first time having this income level so I wasn't sure if this is normal, but it can't be. My sis was making $15 hr last year and she didn't owe a penny, she got a return. Did tax laws change that quickly? For now I'm gonna look for a different free tax-preparer.

      Feel free to use this thread to angst and whine about income tax

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      W-2 and 1098-Es?

      I dunno how I can screw up a W-4, I mean all I do is put my address, put a 1 here and there, sign it

      Its not a lot more the government is asking for. I'm just confused! This is my first time having this income level so I wasn't sure if this is normal, but it can't be. My sis was making $15 hr last year and she didn't owe a penny, she got a return. Did tax laws change that quickly? For now I'm gonna look for a different free tax-preparer.

      Feel free to use this thread to angst and whine about income tax
      No, by the way you're describing it there's obviously a mistake. I made 10/hr (plus overtime) and I'm getting something like 2400 back

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      Tax is fucking ridiculous here. I didn't really think about it too much until I started working. But it ends up being that if you earn over $100, yes, $100 per week, you have to pay taxes.

      It's absolutely insane. They are changing that now, from $5200 a year to $18,000 or something, but our taxes are going up too. Not sure how it's gonna pan out yet.

      Juroara - If you can't fix this I would look in to getting as many things deducted as possible. Not sure what you can claim as tax-deductible there, but you should be able to get things like petrol used driving to and from work,
      or any uniforms you needed for work etc.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      ...put a 1 here and there...
      Okay, well, there's obviously a lot more to this part than you've let on. The number and combination of 1s that you fill in on your W-4 are mostly what determine the proportion of tax that gets taken from your paychecks. Those 1s go a long way toward determining whether you are going to get a big refund, or owe a lot of taxes, or come close to breaking even. And typically nobody is going to double-check these for you, so it's pretty easy to make a mistake that you later regret come tax time. I've done it and ended up in the same situation that you're describing. You should talk to your employer about reviewing and possibly revising your W-4.

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      God, tax forms make me so fucking depressed. I mean, I wouldn't mind just paying whatever lump sum it is that I need to pay. It's just the sight of the exposed surface of the massive bureaucracy and the complex web of meaningless numbered and lettered forms which make me feel like throwing in the towel and leaving the planet.

      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Tax is fucking ridiculous here. I didn't really think about it too much until I started working. But it ends up being that if you earn over $100, yes, $100 per week, you have to pay taxes.
      That's right tommo, nationalised services require money.
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      It is pretty amusing when people who take full advantage of public roads, public schools, etc. complain about paying taxes.

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      Keep in mind that this isn't an issue of how much you make but how much you paid already. If you owe 10,000 in taxes and had 12,000 taken out of your paycheck then you would get a refund. If you owe 50 dollars and you had nothing taken out of your paycheck, then you would owe 50 dollars.

      The area I would check is how many dependents you have. If that doesn't match up, then it one of the things that cause a major problem.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      God, tax forms make me so fucking depressed. I mean, I wouldn't mind just paying whatever lump sum it is that I need to pay. It's just the sight of the exposed surface of the massive bureaucracy and the complex web of meaningless numbered and lettered forms which make me feel like throwing in the towel and leaving the planet.
      Tell me about it. Everything is so complicated. It's really unnecessary.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      That's right tommo, nationalised services require money.
      I agree. They shouldn't be paid by people earning 100 fucking dollars a week!

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      Why not? That's far more than is earned by the millions of people in your country who no longer work due to old age.

      Obviously there is a thing called 'gradation', it's just taxes or no taxes. What do you think would be fairer?

      Are you going to say how much of that $100 is lost in tax?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Why not? That's far more than is earned by the millions of people in your country who no longer work due to old age.
      So?

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Obviously there is a thing called 'gradation', it's just taxes or no taxes. What do you think would be fairer?
      I know that, I think it would be fairer if you have to earn a liveable income before you start paying taxes. Probably $30,000 a year.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Are you going to say how much of that $100 is lost in tax?
      15% + 1.5% for medicare (but that differs due to new laws brought it regarding private/public health insurance etc. bla bla bla)

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      Hmm...looking at my thread title I realize its wrong. It should say "I owe MORE income taxes?". Would that clear up some of the discussions going on here?

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