While I don't like and don't use aspartame because we don't really have long-term data on its effects, many of these points have been debunked - at least according to Snopes. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 02-14-2008 at 04:47 PM.
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While I don't like and don't use aspartame because we don't really have long-term data on its effects, many of these points have been debunked - at least according to Snopes. |
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I learned a lot of funny stuff about aspartame. |
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I can't understand why people are always going for the "light" products, it's not like consuming them will make them sexy. Want to get thin? Do exercise! |
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I'm interested to know which points were debunked, and were they done through official sources or through those with vested interest in aspartame, or from fear of harming their career by looking too fringe by questioning the establishment? |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 02-15-2008 at 07:58 AM.
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It would not surprise me if there is something to all of that. I made the discovery a few years ago that monosodium glutamate (MSG), a flavor additive, makes me really sick when I eat too much of it. In fact, sucrose/"sugar" itself makes me sicker than anything you can legally put in food. Bleached wheat flour is right up there with it. |
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Last edited by Universal Mind; 02-15-2008 at 08:35 AM.
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I heard from one of my grad school professors that aspartame was found in many studies to promote cancer in mice, and that this information was hidden from the public. Case closed for me. But MSG, as well as artificial colors and flavors, and scents, I am still researching. None of them look good however. |
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I think you've been reading stuff from me in only the 9/11 threads. I have a really bad opinion of politicians and corporate executives. I think corporate executives are very good for the economy and the luxuries you and I both love, but the best at it are sociopaths. I think politicians are power seeking drones, but I think the fact that there are intelligent people sprinkled around in every town keeps them in good check for the most part. Read what I wrote in the thread about arms industry profit. I just don't think the 9/11 conspiracy hypothesis makes sense any way you tell the story. That does not mean I think politicians and corporate executives have anything warmer than ice water running through their veins. |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
I doubt aspartame is any more dangerous than the other ingredients commonly in food. If I recall correctly, one study found that it caused cancer in mice when it was injected directly into the blood at a concentration corresponding to a human drinking a few hundred cans of soda every day for a few months. Under unrealistic conditions, almost anything can cause cancer. |
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Do you mean the ingredients label? Or am i missing something here? Because every food supplier is legally required to have an ingredients list. |
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Last edited by adam has a dream; 02-23-2008 at 09:07 PM. Reason: clarity!
If you want something to worry about, worry about how benzene (which is a know carcinogen) has been found in soda due to the reaction between sodium benzoate and various acids in the soda instead of worrying about claims that artificial sweeteners can cause cancer. |
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Artificial sweeteners defeat their own purpose anyway: |
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Again, you're looking to argue something essentially inarguable. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 02-24-2008 at 04:28 AM.
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Solskye, if you refuse to even explore the opposing view, why post a thread? |
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The thing is, I've thoroughly explored a topic before I decide to post it. Nothing short of a published and peer reviewed paper could prove what I found wrong, because I'm absolutely sure that they are in no better a boat than I at finding out information on the internet. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 02-24-2008 at 12:53 PM.
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1) Read what i wrote. I apologise if you have, however it appears you didn't comprehend what i wrote.. because... |
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Yeah, no worries. I apologize, as well. I wasn't sent over the top from your post here, and admit I didn't initially give it due process. It was more from gnome's prick comment, in conjunction with the previous wind of initial condescension dealt with in the fluoridation thread which caused me to just throw my hands up and say, fuck it. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 02-25-2008 at 02:49 PM.
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"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Hah, right. But so far aspartame has also been found to causally contribute to cancerous cell formation and cell death in the brains of mice (which if they have higher immunity than humans would mean that humans are even more susceptible)... |
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Thx for posting that. Memeticverb. I've read those articles but was too lazy to find them again. |
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The Art of War <---> Videos
Remember: be open to anything, but question everything
"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Aside: I believe Rumsfeld is clinically insane. That man has pushed for so much military action against the advice of military strategists; the UN; and, most importantly, the various US special forces (ie. Marines and others operating in the regions to be attacked). Unless it's all unsubstantiated bull, the wikipedia article on The Battle Of Fallujah (in Iraq) is a good starter, and the articles it was sourced from are great. |
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