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      Exclamation History of the Aryan bloodline...what you were never meant to know.

      Alright guys, I know I've been away for 4 or more months but that's neither here nor there when it comes to this thread. If you want to know what a journey I've had though (and journey indeed) feel free to PM me anytime. I guess I'll begin...grab a seat, grab something to drink and keep an open mind. Because what I'm about to tell you I have continually dug into through strenuous research and late night studying...what I'm about to tell you now is something you and I were never told in history class...

      The best place to start is from the beginning. But in this case...I'll start somewhere towards the end and backtrack. Before I begin though...I must ask...don't you love it when stories and legends do that? I always thought it was annoying, but found comfort in the self-reassurance that "it's just a story." Unfortunately...for this story, there is no self-reassurance to be had...for you and I both. By the end of this post, you will fall into one of the below categories, either one is fine and believe it or not...necessary for your current stage in life.

      1. You will think this is "cool", "interesting", "shocking" or all of the above.
      2. You will reject it outwardly (probably not finishing the rest of the post) because it conflicts with your previously held belief system (upon which you have charted your path in life)
      3. You will want to know more (if this is the case...pickup where I and others alike have left off)
      4. You will become saddened by this (this happened to one person I disclosed the below information to. My advice to you is...do not fret or worry. You are truly great and no one has the power to divert your thoughts/belief from that truth)

      Mark my words, you will fall into one of the above categories or sub-categories which are merely extensions of the ones above...at any rate. Let's get on with this.

      Hitler

      This is the "official" story on Hitler

      Adolf Hitler (20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician who led the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei NSDAP), more commonly known as the Nazi Party. He was Chancellor of Germany (1933–1945) and Führer of Germany (1934–1945).

      Hitler was a decorated veteran of World War I who achieved leadership of the Nazi Party in Weimar Germany. Following his imprisonment after a failed coup, he gained support by promoting nationalism, antisemitism and anti-communism with charismatic oratory and propaganda. The Nazis executed or assassinated many of their opponents, restructured the state economy, rearmed the armed forces (Wehrmacht) and established a totalitarian and fascist dictatorship. Hitler pursued a foreign policy with the declared goal of seizing Lebensraum ("living space"). The German invasion of Poland in 1939 caused the British and French Empires to declare war on Germany, leading to the outbreak of World War II in Europe.

      The Axis Powers occupied most of continental Europe and parts of Asia and Africa. Eventually the Allies defeated the Wehrmacht and Schutzstaffel (SS). By 1945, Germany was in ruins. Hitler's bid for territorial conquest and racial subjugation caused the deaths of tens of millions of people, including the systematic genocide of an estimated six million Jews, not including various additional "undesirable" populations, in what is known as the Holocaust.

      During the final days of the war in 1945, as Berlin was being invaded by the Red Army, Hitler married Eva Braun. Less than 24 hours later, the two committed suicide in the Führerbunker.
      The above was taken from Wikipedia, and that's what we "know" about Hitler. Hitler also led many expeditions to seek out ancient knowledge that had been lost/buried. He was fascinated with ancient cultures and their beliefs.



      The swastika pictured above is on a statue of Buddha. Before Hitler fancied the swastika and corrupted it's image...it was heralded as a symbol for "peace", "solar system clock work" etc.

      What isn't widely publicized and known (except those who've written about him) are the circles he ran in. Or to put in another sense. The people he consulted with. Hitler was deeply involved in the occults. Many times he would consult and occasionally be called upon by Aleister Crowley (picture below)



      He was an influential member in several occult organizations, including the Golden Dawn, the A∴A∴, and Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.), and is best known today for his occult writings, especially The Book of the Law, the central sacred text of Thelema. He gained much notoriety during his lifetime, and was dubbed by local British tabloids as "The Wickedest Man In the World."

      Hitler and Crowley were both hardcore racists. But...why? Why did these guys value one race "Blond hair blue eyes" over the others? I wondered this for quite some time. Not only did I ponder this question but many alike such as "Why do we look so different? The blacks, whites, indians, latino's, etc." I then began to start research into the earliest dated civilization that was highly advanced...before the Mayans, Inca's, Hopi...even before the Egyptians. The Sumerians.



      These were a very advanced people who had very detailed knowledge regarding our planets elliptical patterns, their shapes, their individual colors (No...I'm not kidding you.), they wrote about Pluto being an ice planet...and about how Neptune was greenish blue. But how? How did they know all of these things? Not only did they write about it, but they depicted our solar system's planets in their exact coordinates that they in fact ARE to this very day...all without a telescope.



      The two figures you see towards the left are in fact men. The giant towards the right is Enlil (son of Anu) bestowing the plow to mankind commanding him to till the Earth. (Yes, like God did when he kicked Adam and Eve out of Eden in Genesis and told Adam he had to "till" the Earth)

      I'm getting ahead of myself so let me bring you up to speed on things (trust me...this will all connect and your "Aha" moment is just on the horizon...stay with me.)

      The Sumerians credited all of their highly advanced knowledge and wisdom to the Annunaki. Translation: "Those who from heaven to earth came." They depicted the Annunaki as looking quite similar to us...except they glowed. Hence why they were also nicknamed "The Shining One's". They depicted what these "Annunaki" liked to cruise around in below.



      I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to what the above "crafts" resemble.

      The Sumerians accredited their Gods to having a pantheon. Meaning there was a hierarchy amongst the Gods. The "lower gods" were called "The watchers". And they portrayed them as having "large round heads, black eyes and typically short." Sounds like Grey aliens I know. Marvel portrayed "The Watchers" as looking like this...



      The ancients portrayed "The Watchers" as looking like this...



      And depending upon who you ask, others believe "The Watchers" bear a strong resemblance to this...



      According to the ancient Sumerian tablets...mankind's creation story is as follows. You tell me if it sounds coincidentally similar to something else you may have heard of...(paraphrased version)

      Anu (Sky Father) and his many sons and daughters came to Earth to mine it for precious metals to take back to their home planet. Anu put Enlil in charge of the work force. The higher pantheon were at first given the labor of mining earth. They toiled earth for many centuries...hundreds of centuries in fact until they became tired. They decided to leave all the work to the lower pantheon aka "the lesser gods". These lesser gods were incredibly brilliant, but unlike the "higher gods"...they could die. They lived extraordinarily long lives but were not immune from death itself. So with the agreement of the "higher gods"...Enlil ordered the "lesser gods" to mine the earth for it's metals. After many many centuries...the "lesser gods" decided it was too much and feared they would die if they continued...so they stormed Enlil's house and readied themselves for war if Enlil did not relieve them of their duties. Enlil's father Anu heard the mighty motion and appeared in Enlil's house. Enlil readied himself to slay the whole lot but Anu decided it best if Enlil sent one of his servants out to hear the "lesser gods" pleas/demands. An agreement had been met and the "lesser gods" would no longer have to mine the earth. They would create a slave race to do that work for them. The gods went to their sister and asked her as to how they might go about creating this slave race. She answered unto them..."A god must be slain, his flesh and blood must be mixed with clay, then we will all gather around the pot and toss our spittle in it (meaning we will spit in the pot together...sound oddly familiar?), then we will insert the mix into our sisters womb's for the gestation period". They decided to use one of the evolving life forms already evolving on this planet. Enki (Anu's son and Enlil's brother) called for some of the "blackheads" to be brought to him so that they may extract its/his DNA to mix it with their own. The process was carried out and the gestation period began. These "upgraded monkey's" were now upon the earth. They were self-aware, could go into altered states of consciousness, and were...pretty much not treated like children, but servants to their creators/parents.


      Here's where the story gets interesting. The bible records that in the garden of eden, god literally "walked amongst man" in those days. According to Sumerian writings the "sons of the gods" walked amongst man in those days in a place they chose to reside in which they called "The Edin". To top it off...they called the human species "Adamu" or "Adamites". (Adam ring a bell?) they called what the bible calls "Adam"...Adapa who bore children Ka-in and Abael. The biblical "Kain and Abel". No, I'm not kidding.

      I last read that the King James Bible has a little over 5,000 mistranslations. With all due respect to christians...that's a lot of fucking mistakes for one to stake one's way of life on living in ignorance about. The king james bible back in his time was called "The authorized version". Because any other versions and any other texts were NOT authorized to be read. Go figure. Anyway let's look at this word "Elohim" that pops up in the bible...

      In Hebrew grammar (see next section), and is then generally understood to denote the single God of Israel. In other cases, Elohim acts as an ordinary plural of the word Eloah (אלוה), and refers to the polytheistic notion of multiple gods.
      Taken from wikipedia, not exactly a credible website, but that bit is flawless.

      You have to admit...hearing God tell Abraham to kill his son Issac to test his loyalty for him...then having the SAME God create a set of commandments stating "Thou shalt not kill" (taken from the book of the dead btw.) is a complete and total mind fuck. Though Abraham didn't go through with it...why would an all knowing, and all powerful God...whose wisdom transcends time...need for a human to prove his love by killing his son? Furthermore why is "God" jealous? In the bible it says "God is a jealous God". Is God not sure of himself? Why need he be jealous? Many scholars and theologians have pondered this exact same thing. In the 15th century...one man whose name slips my mind at this time was considered heretic for giving his opinion that perhaps the Old testament God and the New testament God were two separate beings. In fact the LDS church believes Yaweh and Elohim to be completely different entities...to...this...day.

      The above bit is critical to understand...but for now we will go back to the Sumerian text and tie it all in towards the end. I promise. According to the Sumerian text...humans now walked the earth...a LOT of humans did. The Gods walked in the earth in those days so it was not uncommon for them to "hangout" with their human sons and daughters. Some...no...most of these Gods found their creations very "fair". Meaning they thought these women were very hot. So they...started having sex with them and the human women popped out "bastard super babies". Does the bible (which came thousands and thousands of years after the Sumerian text) have anything to say about this? Yes, in fact it does. And I quote...

      Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
      I ask you, readers, what the hell are "angels" who we were told supposed to be spiritual beings...doing with genitalia? And what the hell are they doing with sperm? It's impossible for me to have sex with a tiger and produce a baby...our DNA is very different. But it is PLAUSIBLE that I could produce with an ape. Apparently these "Angel's" DNA was quite similar to ours...the Sumerian text would definitely agree with the above theory.

      So now we have "Nephilim" walking around the earth. The gods continued to reproduce with man and Enlil grew very sick of it. He detested it and thought it was immoral, down right degrading, and just flat out sick. He often grew angry when hearing man's bickering and toiling upon the earth and said he was sorry he had made man.

      The Bible's interpretation of the above

      "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He created man on the earth and He was grieved in His heart."(Gen. 6:5&6 NKJV)
      Are you starting to see the tie-in? If your top lip has separated from your bottom lip...don't let them stray too far apart just yet...for I guarantee you..."you ain't seen nothin' yet". You really...really haven't. Keep reading.

      Enlil wanted to destroy this bastardized creation (not mankind itself, but the bastard offspring of the gods). See on the earth you have two sets of children by these Gods at this time.

      1. The first creation...the "Adamu" had their DNA but was also a mixture of the black heads dna.
      2. The second creation was the nephilim, these beings were a mixture of the human dna and the God's dna. These were bad mother shut your mouth's.

      Enlil grew weary of both kinds...he didn't like the first kind anymore but absolutely detested and loathed the second kind. So Enlil plotted to kill the creations. He consulted with his father Anu and told him of their wicked ways and that they must be destroyed. Anu called for one of the creations to be brought to him. Anu called for a human to be brought to him. The Gods feared this and believed that Anu would send the order for all of their precious humans to be killed. One of the humans was sent up to the sky father and the sky father Anu studied this "man" that his children had created. He was very pleased at how he looked very similar to themselves (Bible states God created man in his own image). Anu loved this creature and ordered his sons and daughters to teach man civilization, teach them the ways of old such as magick, spirituality, etc. In addition to that, they were also to be taught welding, jewelry making etc. And they were. They were taught a great deal.

      This did not sit with Enlil well at all. He was furious so he told all of his brothers and sisters that Anu had commanded for a great flood to cover the earth and that they were to save themselves. They were told that they could NOT bring their precious mankind with them though. The gods were displeased by this but left earth in their crafts. See picture below.



      The beings left earth in their craft. Lord Enki (Enlil's brother) went to his descendant Ziusudra and told him to build a large boat because Enlil had ordered for a large deluge to come forth upon the earth and wipe out mankind entirely. But what did Ziusudra look like? Certainly a description as to this mighty being with holy blood was given...right?

      In "The Lost Book of Enki" about Ziusudra, son of an Anunnaki, Enki and a beautiful human female. When Ziusudra was born his description was-
      ("White as the snow his skin was, the color of wool was his hair, Like the skies were his eyes, in a brilliance were his eyes shining.") ( blue eyes or albino ).
      Interestingly enough...the bible also records God in revelation as having "hair like wool". Anyway, this story is recorded in the Epic of Gilgamesh about how a giant deluge covered the earth and Ziusudra and his family were saved in the giant boat (ironically enough...the Sumerians beat the Jews and Christians to writing this story. The Sumerian tablets are almost 8,000 years old) Read on...

      So what we know about Ziusudra is that he had white skin (not like Caucasian skin...but white skin...)and that his eyes were blue...

      Watch the short video below...



      The only thing I disagree with in the above video is the part regarding the great flood. Science has NOT confirmed that a great flood covered the earth...we would still see remnants of such a thing today...and that isn't the case. However in these texts and the bible's defense...perception was different back then. Perhaps the flood that covered say Louisiana would have been perceived as the entire earth back then as well.

      According the Sumerian text...after the great flood, the Gods came back down to earth and all had a change of heart, Enlil included. They vowed never to do such a thing again. Sound oddly familiar?

      The Bible's interpretation of the above

      "I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. The rainbow shall be in the cloud, and I will look on it to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.” And God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth." Genesis 9:9-13
      After this..."man" (and I use that term loosely) began re-populating the earth again.

      Ziusudra...was the last remaining holy blood that was SAVED in the great flood. At least...that we know of anyway.

      Ziusudra went on to re-populate and so did his kids (who I guess could call Lord Enki grampy?)

      Remember how I said earlier that many authors have spent their lives researching Hitler and detailing his life in ways that we weren't taught about? Most of them have detailed in their books that he went on many expeditions to "Find out human origins". That's not really a secret for those in the know or those who have sought to know.





      Annunaki? or Annunazi?

      Now here's where the plot thickens. Haven't you ever wondered why Hitler thought so highly of the blonde hair blue eyed race? The "pure-blooded" Aryan race? Haven't you wondered why kings and queens in "ye olde" times always inter-married? Haven't you wondered why past kings and queens believed in the "divine right to rule"? Haven't you wondered why at least 25 American Presidents are related to each other?


      (further reading http://www.asis.com/users/stag/uspres.html)

      To sum all this up...and bringing the crêchendo'ing climax to an end...pay attention to this if you haven't gotten it by now. Hitler along with many others were firm believers in the idea that "Pure-blooded racially untainted Aryan's" are the direct descendants from Lord Enki himself, and therefore believed Aryan's HAVE a direct RIGHT to rule the earth.

      Now which one are you?

      By the end of this post, you will fall into one of the below categories, either one is fine and believe it or not...necessary for your current stage in life.

      1. You will think this is "cool", "interesting", "shocking" or all of the above.
      2. You will reject it outwardly (probably not finishing the rest of the post) because it conflicts with your previously held belief system (upon which you have charted your path in life)
      3. You will want to know more (if this is the case...pickup where I and others alike have left off)
      4. You will become saddened by this (this happened to one person I disclosed the below information to. My advice to you is...do not fret or worry. You are truly great and no one has the power to divert your thoughts/belief from that truth)
      Now here are my thoughts on the matter, I hold no strong beliefs, merely thoughts/ideas on the matter.

      - I think it's quite possible that the Sumerian "Watchers" aka "lesser gods" are the Grey aliens people report seeing all the time. Their job is to do exactly that...watch. Different generations have called them different things over the course of time...Gods -> Angels -> Grey Aliens.

      - Do I honestly believe all this stuff? It's quite possible our species has been genetically altered. Science has told us that Homo Erectus existed, and that Homo Sapiens, on a chronological scale, literally came out of nowhere with a blink of an eye...odd, don't you think? For further reading...click here

      - It certainly answers a lot of questions that the bible and many other religious books have left us wondering.

      - No wonder Hitler often called the Aryans...the "chosen race".



      I'd like to make one thing clear before I end this. I do NOT believe any one race is more intelligent or (for all intensive purposes)...more "special" than any others. Furthermore...the people who ARE pure-blooded [insert race here] are very low in number. I hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I enjoyed typing it out. I implore you to do further research, if you have something to dispute, feel free to dispute it with sources, if you have something to ask, feel free to ask, if you have something to comment, feel free to comment. For further reading into the tablets/stories written by the Sumerians pertaining to their Gods/Goddesses and origins...consult http://www.Enkispeaks.com The aforementioned website was created by Sasha Lessin, Ph. D. She has put up a plethora of Dr. Zacharias Sitchin's translated Sumerian text on her website for anyone to read.

      ~ Fin
      Last edited by Jeff777; 08-18-2008 at 10:41 AM.

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      Hahah, not that this has any useful connection but I couldn't stop thinking how the story (aside from the final parts) somehow reminded me of the Silmarillion.

      Tolkien's pantheon of Valar and all, heh. Just curiously incidental.

      Tolkien says in his foreword (to LotR I think) that he didn't base the story of the war with Sauron on World War II since then Sauron would've emerged victorious to a greater degree or some such (just paraphrasing, don't recall exactly what was said and can't bother to find it in the book), but somehow the whole origin of Middle-earth as depicted in the Silmarillion seems to resemble the story from this thread.

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      Wow a very interesting read Jeff. It's great you put all this together, thanks.

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      You're welcome Rabia, thank you for taking the time to read it. And Merlock, yes...I've actually heard that before as well in my studies.

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      Quite a remarkable read.. I have heard of these Annunaki, and about the whole interbreeding deal with early humans, but never guessed it tied into what Hitler was all about. Even about designing humans as a race to mine metals, I have heard of. It is truly interesting how all of that ties together, and is definitely worth mulling over a bit. What the bible says though, I do find shocking. I have read through plenty of contradictions myself, so what you posted only adds to the list.

      Thanks a dozen times over for putting forth the effort to post this for us all. Looks like I have a bit of research ahead of me.

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      Actually, this is a very fascinating article and I'd like to read more about this. And I find it quite mind-boggling and saddening at the same time.
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      [citation needed]
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw

      Ich brauche keine Waffe.

      Ich ermittle ausschließlich mit dem Gehirn!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw

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      This is quite close to what I have gathered. Minor details aside. What I pieced together is basically there is bad ETs originally took over the territory of the earth which is in a 'free will zone'. Which originally contained native humans that had 'built a latter to the skies'. That made these ETs fear nothing would be impossible for them. So when they won the war and took over they confused the languages and spread a massive wave of amnesia that took over the species and their home. And took the reigns of control. The mythology for this historical event is the garden of eden and the fall of man.

      Others out there which want to help us are just waiting for us to get out of our apathy and become more aware of the siutation.

      The thing is if we do awake enough people, the more other good species will manifest to help us from the higher multi-dimensional levels which is very much effected by what is going on here and especially when nuclear bombs go off. But they are already monitoring earth heavily.

      The conscious media network is connected and influenced by Good ETs. Things like Fox news is ultimately connected to the ETs that are negatively regressive in nature.

      Thanks for the info Jeff.

      All this about Angels and Gods and all that is basically some fallen human perception trying to label ETs intelligence. If some negative ETs came and revealed themself which they no doubt are planning at a particular point. You would be shocked how easily people would bow down to them as if they were gods, and how easy it becomes for them to manipulate them.

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      You fail for trying to connect Hitler with Crowley. Crowley was kicked out of fascist Italy. As I understand it there were Nazi esotericists. But even if Hitler was one he was never very advanced and they drew more on German thinkers than Crowley.

      You lack any citations and the facts I do know anything about you get wrong. So I will remain unimpressed until you back any of this up.
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      Did it not occur to you that the reason the Bible contains mentions of these stories is not because they are separate accounts of the same event, but that the Bible is a blatant plaguerism of the previous 3000 years of mythology that came before it? All of your notations of "does this sound oddly familiar" should have hit you right between the eyes that yes, it does sound familiar. But not because it's two separate accounts. Its the same fairytale, plaguerised. Even the story of Jesus' birth isn't original, it's a rip-off of Egyptian mythology.

      but they depicted our solar system's planets in their exact coordinates that they in fact ARE to this very day
      Hog-wash. How do you get spacial co-ordinates from a rough etching on a clay tablet from 4,500 BC Sumeria? And how are they specific to their relative position 'to this very day'? You've taken an etching of a star with 11 'dots' around it and seen when you wanted to see.

      Lastly, the ability to interbreed between species is only possible between species that have a recent common ancestor. I don't see how extra-terrestrials from a completely different planet would have even remotely similar DNA structures to ours (if their genomes are made of DNA at all) to allow for sexual combination that leads to offspring that aren't infertile, as hyrbidisations do. Now you might be able to argue that advancements in genetics can create a work-around to this, but since there is no evidence of any of this at all you may as well say that the Flying Spaghetti Monster waved his noodley appendage and made it happen.

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      Where in Egyptian mythology is the story of Jesus?

      You won't look at any of this seriously because you have lack of evidence syndrome. Someone who thinks only in terms of Flying Spaghetti Monsters.
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      The only thing I disagree with in the above video is the part regarding the great flood. Science has NOT confirmed that a great flood covered the earth...we would still see remnants of such a thing today...and that isn't the case.
      The flood is described in almost every culture and religion and it it is said to have happened 10000-12000 years ago. The last ice-age ended about 12000 years ago. Imagine all the ice melting in a matter of centuries. This could have led to the "flood" myth.

      Anyways.... Interesting read.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      Where in Egyptian mythology is the story of Jesus?
      Osiris-Dionysus of 5th century BC. The Church's explanation for the similarity is that Satan saw Jesus' life in full before it occurred, so he counterfeited the myths of Osiris and Dionysus in advance... riiiiight.

      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      You won't look at any of this seriously because you have lack of evidence syndrome. Someone who thinks only in terms of Flying Spaghetti Monsters.
      And you'll believe anything that sounds remotely fantastic without a shred of proof. How can you have an intelligent discussion and debate about a subject without proof or evidence for the claims you're being presented with? What possible reason do I have to take anything in the OP seriously when it's all conjecture and extrapolation without substance?

      That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. 'Gut feelings' don't cut it in the real world.

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      Osiris-Dionysus of 5th century BC.
      That isn't the story of Jesus.

      you'll believe anything that sounds remotely fantastic
      If that was true I would believe that Osiris-Dionsus is the story of Jesus. With your lack of evidence syndrome you make up things even more absurd than that which you try and disprove. Like the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Trying to create something absurd to justify yourself.

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      so apparently aliens came to earth back around 10,000BC?

      and people know how to "extract DNA" back then to?

      and the aliens couldn't keep the sumerian race from dieing out eventually?

      also, the quote about the aliens eyes looking like the sky and you saying it means they were blue is only an assumption, they could of been black with white stars in them. that is what they said they were in the first, or you did anyways, that they were black eyes.

      they weren't even more technology advanced than we are today?

      how did hitler know that he was a descendant of enki if this happened way before he was ever born?

      from what you said to, it was lord enki or whatever that started breeding again, therefore we're all descendants of him.

      also, monkeys didn't just "pop up" out of no where, they evolved from other organisms.


      i'll agree with hitler being in the occults and taking the swastika from something that it didn't mean in the beginning, i already learned all of that stuff in school

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      Well, Jeff, I must commend you for your imagination, if not your critical thinking skills. I've always found the 2012 vintage eschatology to be particularly fascinating. Unlike earlier versions, this mythology attempts to bring in misinformation from many sources, including religion, history, science, and even astronomy. A giant planet is going to hit the Earth in 4 years. And people actually believe it. Quite impressive. Alas, December 22, 2012 will be a somber day for conspiracy theorists.

      I will leave you with a quote: Have an open mind, but no so open that your brains fall out.

      Your brains have officially fallen out.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I will leave you with a quote: Have an open mind, but no so open that your brains fall out.
      In German we can say "Wer nach allen Seiten offen ist, ist nicht mehr ganz dicht" which means "He who is open to all sides isn't leakproof anymore", a great combination of two idioms, the meaning of which is pretty much identical to what you said.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post
      also, monkeys didn't just "pop up" out of no where, they evolved from other organisms.
      He said homo sapiens "popped up" out of nowhere, not monkeys.

      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      A giant planet is going to hit the Earth in 4 years. And people actually believe it.
      Not once in my years of looking through possible 2012 scenarios have I ever heard that one. Maybe if we're lucky though, that scientific theory backing the pole shift will hold true. Oh wait, science backs a possible doomsday scenario for 2012? I'm certain those scientists only did it for the lulz.

      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I will leave you with a quote: Have an open mind, but no so open that your brains fall out.

      Your brains have officially fallen out.
      Officially? Please provide us with the documentation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Well, Jeff, I must commend you for your imagination, if not your critical thinking skills. I've always found the 2012 vintage eschatology to be particularly fascinating. Unlike earlier versions, this mythology attempts to bring in misinformation from many sources, including religion, history, science, and even astronomy. A giant planet is going to hit the Earth in 4 years. And people actually believe it. Quite impressive. Alas, December 22, 2012 will be a somber day for conspiracy theorists.

      I will leave you with a quote: Have an open mind, but no so open that your brains fall out.

      Your brains have officially fallen out.
      Thank you drewmandan. 2012 is a very interesting subject to me as well but nowhere within my original post did I mention it, nibiru or a planet hitting earth. If you were to ask the egyptologist dr. zacharias sitchin...he would tell you nibiru is set to come back around earth 150 or so years from now. Once again...nowhere did I mention 2012, "planet x" or anything of that nature. Where people get the idea that a giant rock will hit us in 2012 is beyond me.

      Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post
      so apparently aliens came to earth back around 10,000BC?
      Give or take a few thousand years, yes...according to the Sumerian writings.

      and people know how to "extract DNA" back then to?
      I wouldn't call them what we would call "people".

      and the aliens couldn't keep the sumerian race from dieing out eventually?
      Why would they want to? I can't fathom the mindset of an advanced being and trying to futile

      also, the quote about the aliens eyes looking like the sky and you saying it means they were blue is only an assumption, they could of been black with white stars in them. that is what they said they were in the first, or you did anyways, that they were black eyes.
      Lol, that's reaching imo. blue eyed humans is one thing...black eyed humans with stars in their eyes is another. Besides, blue eyes develop because less melanin...brown eyes are the opposite.

      they weren't even more technology advanced than we are today?
      Where did you get this notion?

      how did hitler know that he was a descendant of enki if this happened way before he was ever born?
      Hitler himself probably was not a descendant of Lord Enki. Hitler was not even Aryan. And for the last part of your question...do you remember when I wrote out that Hitler funded many expeditions to seek out ancient knowledge?

      from what you said to, it was lord enki or whatever that started breeding again, therefore we're all descendants of him.
      Enki was not the only one breeding, his brothers, sisters and their offspring as well all threw their "magickal sperm" into the circle of "human" life. The reason men and women lived to ripe old ages in excess of 969 years...was not explained in the bible. It merely said that God one day decided man's years should be cut down to one hundred and twenty...and so it was. However...in the Sumerian writings...the "higher gods" were immortal. And it does state that Adapa (Enki's son, the half-breed) lived for a long long....long time. I would attribute this to immortality being in the "higher gods" DNA. Therefore the half-breeds naturally can't be immortal themselves...but they do get to live a "few millenia". The holy blood became diluted even more and more and more when half-breeds mated with human women, and their offspring mated with humans, and their offspring mated with humans etc. Which would explain why we don't live as long as those long ages reported in Sumerian and Biblio times.

      also, monkeys didn't just "pop up" out of no where, they evolved from other organisms.
      This was addressed by a user above me.

      i'll agree with hitler being in the occults and taking the swastika from something that it didn't mean in the beginning, i already learned all of that stuff in school
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      Very, very interesting, though admitantly not something I have not heard (in part) before.

      My question to you though, is why do you think this a more reliable source then the Bible?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      Thank you drewmandan. 2012 is a very interesting subject to me as well but nowhere within my original post did I mention it, nibiru or a planet hitting earth. If you were to ask the egyptologist dr. zacharias sitchin...he would tell you nibiru is set to come back around earth 150 or so years from now. Once again...nowhere did I mention 2012, "planet x" or anything of that nature. Where people get the idea that a giant rock will hit us in 2012 is beyond me.
      You didn't explicitly mention 2012 but I still consider your conspiracy theory to be a part of the "2012 mythos" because it shares a great deal of memes with 2012 theories, such as Annunaki, ancient astronauts, political leaders being in cahoots with aliens, etc. Same brand of crazy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      You didn't explicitly mention 2012 but I still consider your conspiracy theory to be a part of the "2012 mythos" because it shares a great deal of memes with 2012 theories, such as Annunaki, ancient astronauts, political leaders being in cahoots with aliens, etc. Same brand of crazy.
      I don't think he mentioned them being in league with aliens.
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      I don't think he mentioned them being in league with aliens.
      You're right. I didn't. Dremandan is reaching to group me into a "conspiracy theory" category when I shouldn't be in one. The Sumerian writings are just that...writings. No one has to base an entire belief system on them. I don't.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      Very, very interesting, though admitantly not something I have not heard (in part) before.

      My question to you though, is why do you think this a more reliable source then the Bible?
      I'm glad you asked. For starters...this material precedes biblio-text age-wise. And if you study it in depth the bible seems to be a direct plagiarism from these text. In my studies I've read a good bit about the Council of Nacea. A paraphrased version of the Council of Nacea is as follows:

      Before Constantine took to the throne, the world was largely pagan. When he took the throne he arranged for a council to be put together in which prominent men such as bankers, merchants, tax collectors, philosphers, gov. officials would go over the bible's text and decide which books of the bible should be canonized and which books should be discarded. Many books that should have been in the bible were discarded. These men decided on various subjects ranging from whether or not Jesus should be considered the son of God, what month and day should they celebrate his birth, to detailing works about his life etc. In some of the books that were discarded...passages spoke of reincarnation and how there were "very old souls" on this earth at this time. Of course the Nacean Council weren't going to let that become canonized. Anyway...even with all this "christian changing" they did...most of what I find in the bible to date is largely based on Paganism and earlier Sumerian tablets.
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      Well that might (or might not ) be true, what you quoted came from the OT, which is also in the hands of the Jewish people. Are you saying that the history of the Jews (as, to the best of my knowledge) that is their history, is inaccurate when compaired to potentially older civilizations?

      Also, I don't really think that you can all it 'plagerizing' per se. It is, effectivly, the historical reacount of what happened in ancient times, and so similarities to other historys would more likely be a validating point.
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