Thread: Should Lucid dreams be subject to morals

It is your personal choice. Nobody can tell you how you should or should not act in your dreams. Ony you can decide.

Although all of you know my personal feelings on this, I will tell you, do not let ANYONE tell you or make you feel guilty about your decisions.

Afterall, it is freewill. Examine your heart and see what IT tells you.

Could always try to communicate with your dream/spirit guide. That is if you believe in such a thing. Mine, from what I can tell, has only given me advice on certain things in dreams I was trying to do. He stops me from doing a no-no.

Hola! Welcome to th3 forum Death, hows business? Its been a while since I've talked to you!

But back to the topic. I think this is a touchy subject. I like to live by dreams as if I would live my real life and I think some poeple do the same. True that you can do what you want and I like that part, but I personally feel that some morals are needed. But thats just me.

Actually, my dream guide just told me the other day that I should treat people in dreams as I would in real life after I asked him.

Welcome back Will! Where you been these last two weeks?

"In your lifetime, you would've spent about 6 years of it dreaming. That is more than 2,100 days spent in a different world."

I must be on the upper end of the scale. I will sleep about 40% of my life. Everyone now and then I even sleep for 15 hours or so. Usually it is because I am testing a new drug.

I believe that the fact that you have power doesn't give you the right to use it in ways that are harmful(even to dream people) because that is simply what Saddam Hussein did during his reign. He expressed and showed power in a way that hurt people, but I overall think that seeker is right in saying that it is your personal choice and to not let anyone convince you that what you did in a dream was wrong.

W0ot I sound like a shrink

I say do whatever you feel like, no one will ever know. And if you consider a dream person as real as a chunk of rock, theres no reason to be extra nice to it.

Well, consider this... If you go around killing people in real life it is going to have a negative psychological effect on yourself. I would imagine doing it in dreams, or having day dreams about slaughtering hundreds of people is not very healthy. Just keep that in mind if you plan to go on a rampage in a dream.

Edit: I actually have a good tip! You can do what I do. I just summon zombies to attack me. They are not people technically so no harm blowing them up.

Personlly I think dreams should be fun anyway. And running around slaughtering tons of people isn't what I would consider fun. I think thats a little extreme though. When he said morals, killing people didn't come to mind, but more of the smaller stuff.

Not that it would be bad, people play computer games where you kill people all the time. As long as you know its not real, I don't see a problem.

Fascinating question.

How can we compare the physical world with the dream world when they are so very different? I am very ethical and moral in my waking life. I also don't believe in casual sex but in my dream world I am free to give in to my desires (doesn't happen very often but when I do it's without guilt).

I haven't met my dream/spirit guide yet. Maybe I need one to help mentor me through this world of dreams.

The only thing I would say to anyone is that dreams are better when they are positive. What's with the killings? Why would you want to be lucid and then waste that energy by using your power on killing and other negative things... sheeeshh.. for those who wish control dreams like this, I wonder how you feel when you wake up.

I think if you have "negative" thoughts, killing and such... and you have a chance to let them go in your dreams do it. Could be bad, but it could also play tricks on you, feel guilty and never even think about such things again. If you like it and look forward to doing it in real life, get professional help. My 2 cents...

Lucid dreams and morality seem like video games and morality... serious.

I would gladly partake in a grandtheft auto dream... driving fast, killing cops, boning hookers, blowing up buses, throwing grenades in populated areas, firing round after round into the side panneling of swat vehicles...shooting the pizza guy.

... after that i'd ask my subconcious cool questions.

Everyone should set up their own loose morals in the dream world, its YOUR world, and you can do with it as you like. Unless LS interferes, or icedawg kicks your ass.
Also, the morals you live by in the waking world, should generally influence the ones in the dreaming world in a way. Dream and live by what you think is morally correct or not. Its your choice, and nobody can define your code of morallity.

I had a dream a few nights ago where I thought I was in a video game. When I woke up I was like "Hmm in that game I should of... wait that wasn't a game it was a dream!" Which is why I thought of it.

I did kill one person in that dream but they didn't have a face, I wasn't lucid and I really thought of it as a game. Which I guess is kind of what Crucible said, if you don't put a face to the person its just like killing zombies. And if killing something goes with the plot(dreams have a plot?) I don't see anything wrong with it. And if you do it in a normal dream whats wrong with doing it while lucid?

It might be good kick someones ass once in a while to vent some frustration, but I wouldnt go on a psycho killing rampage. I've got GTA3/GTAVC for that... ^^.

We need a game like the sims 2 meets GTA:VC. The AI in GTA:VC is very bad.

two words: personal opinion.

Two more words: Personal honor

Do what your heart tells you is right. Freewill is not a license to do whatever you desire. It is a license to do what you know is right.

i cant let myself believe that when i dream im in another world...if that is true im a very very very bad man ...so what do you think of your actions before lucidity? cause ive said this before, but im always killing people etc. ...that and in lucidity, dont you think if you have full control over a person, that they must be a dream construct? ...theres of course always the arguement that if you do alot of bad things over there it could cross over, but that same arguement is used for violent video games, and i love to kill on those, yet do not kill people in my waking life...my conclusion is, since it isnt real (for me at least), and i know how to discern waking life from sleeping life ill continue to do as i please...lucky for my dream constructs i dont really want to kill people or rape them of steal stuff etc but, in my dreams i do not bind myself to any laws...

Two words: I'm confused.

People who reply to this topic should also check out the dream control topic in dream control, I wanna know the opinion of people, it all just falls under "Astral Ethics" I gues, hehe

I have to say I agree with paperdoll on this one, and given all of the feedback to this topic would like to share why I posted this in the first place. My dreams are always, in some sense of the term, lucid so I always can make choices for my actions. My choices acording to "normal" people are quite wierd, mainly because I never expirience remorse, guilt maybe but never remorse, for my actions in the dream and real world. I have allot of VERY violent dreams, I'm plopped into a situation, have the ability to get out of it, but instead have fun running with whatever my dream is. Now I guess another question could be more of a personal one. Is deciding not to control a dream and killing the same as killing in a lucid dream?

More shades of grey!

If you let go of your lucidity, that is, you lapse back into a 'normal unconcious dream' then in my opinion, you are not violating your morals.

HOWEVER

If you decide to release your lucidity only to create a loophole by which you can destroy and murder.... well, that's kind of like cheating on your taxes