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- 07-20-2008 03:44 PM #1River inbetween worlds
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Breaking illusions: Focus on something you cannot change...
Most of the time, when you fail wild, it is becouse one of these two reasons:
1. You are too bored, or distracted by bodily sensations, you give up
2. You fall asleep within an attempt lost in your hypnagogic imagery
Most of the successfull WILDers have methods which they use to cross transitional stage of WILD as described in seekers five stages of wild:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=9806
Some people use counting, some people construct their dream scene and some people just passively observe coming imagery. Today I readed an interesting topic written by Billybob, where he mentions using an anchor, which holds the consciousness stable, when transition stage occurs. He recommends using pain.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=62282
After reading this article and thinking about it a little, one big illusion was broken:
Why to focus on something volatile, if there are more stable places to focus on
I usually focused on counting, but well. As counting is created by consciousness, everytime consciousness wanders, counting wanders too. Everytime i focused on imagery, it made me loose consciousness.
Every guide writes the same thing: be Passive observer. But you cannot be passive observer, when you cannot hold yourself on something more stable, and even better: External..
I can clearly recall one of my unintentional WILDs, when i was really tired,and was travelling by train. The only think which held my consciousness aware was that tiny little back ache, caused by sitting in uncomfortable chair.
Next time, when you will be doing WILD, please think carefully what you will use as your anchor in wild transition stage, where everything internal collapses.
After reading Billys guide, I would recommend something what does not fall asleep with you.Opened DV topics Dream Saturated Mind,WILD happens when we fall asleep,Breaking illusions: Sleep paralysis (WILD help (method)),
Breaking illusions: Dream journal,Generic WILD guide,LD Dictionary {safe, confusing and misused words organized},Breaking illusions: Learning WILD (Amateur vs. Professional)
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- 07-21-2008 07:49 PM #2Always Lucid Achievements:
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- 07-22-2008 04:39 AM #3Member
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Yes I have a thread where i use an MP3 with 4 hours silence and then beeps every 15 mins, not to wake you but to anchor and trigger a link to the real world from the dream world to alert you to RC and go Lucid.
This is in synch with Adraw and BillyBob's anchor techniques.
Here is the link:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=61604
Have a look.Last edited by DreamChaser; 07-22-2008 at 04:45 AM.
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- 07-22-2008 07:05 AM #4Member
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I'm trying to use Binaurals as my anchor, it works well for me. The beats are soothing enough to sleep too, but prominent enough to hold my focus.
Just don't use those useless/rip-off Idozer mp3s!
P.S Dreamchaser I've been useing your mp3 for about a week now. I haven't had much success yet but I have faith that the idea is sound.
- 07-22-2008 08:15 AM #5Member
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No problem 10K.
Originally Posted by 10,000days 
Thanks for giving it a go so far.
It takes getting used to whatever stimuli you use, on a regular basis.
And if one method worked for everyone, we wouldn't need this forum.
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- 07-22-2008 10:44 AM #6River inbetween worlds
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You should use something you are most receptible towards. If you are more of Image type person or more of tactile type person, it wont have as much power. But who knows exactly. Originally Posted by DreamChaser No problem 10K.
Thanks for giving it a go so far.
It takes getting used to whatever stimuli you use, on a regular basis.
And if one method worked for everyone, we wouldn't need this forum.
Seems finding out is Hit and Miss. Opened DV topics Dream Saturated Mind,WILD happens when we fall asleep,Breaking illusions: Sleep paralysis (WILD help (method)),
Breaking illusions: Dream journal,Generic WILD guide,LD Dictionary {safe, confusing and misused words organized},Breaking illusions: Learning WILD (Amateur vs. Professional)
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