Thread: CAT - Cycle Adjustment Technique

If you do try it let me know, the dream guides just finished a tutorial on the subject, but none of us have ever actually done it

Originally Posted by ninja9578

If you do try it let me know, the dream guides just finished a tutorial on the subject, but none of us have ever actually done it

OK, it'll take 1 week to adjust to my new sleep pattern, and then another week before I can get any results. I'll report to you when I get some results ^^

Yay! Let me know if you'd like to see the tutorial in advance, I'll PM a rough copy to you.

This is also relevant to my interests. I was tossing the idea back and forth so will be watching this thread to see your results Timothy. Best of luck!

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Yay! Let me know if you'd like to see the tutorial in advance, I'll PM a rough copy to you.

Yea, sure I'd love to see it!

1 question though: when do you guys usually go to sleep?

How can you write a tutorial without having done it/know if it works?

Oh so thats how you do it... Ah well, 1 week I will try it <.<

Originally Posted by qwerty

How can you write a tutorial without having done it/know if it works?

We know it works, it was written based on the original creator's scientific papers.

I went to bed at 00.30 PM yesterday (today technically) and woke up early for the first time at about 7AM.
After I've done this 7 times in a row, I will get up at 8.30AM.
I have encountered some problems though.

1) It took me over one hour to fall asleep! So I had only 5,5 hours of sleep. Looks like I will have to rethink my schedule?

2) My alarm clock is loud. REALLY loud. And you can't turn it off without moving around. It has mind-erasing properties apparently, because I can't remember anything of my dreams after I turn if off. I'm on a tight schedule, so autosuggestion is not good enough. I guess I'll have to come up with something new. Maybe my watch? It beeps for 5 seconds at regular intervals. Maybe that will wake me up.

3) On those days when I can sleep longer - can't I just wake up naturally? Or does it have to be exactly 1.5 hours later?

How's CAT? Seems like you recently had a lucid dream

Originally Posted by ninja9578

How's CAT? Seems like you recently had a lucid dream

I finished adjusting my sleeping cycle yesterday. Even though I'm not supposed to able to LD during the first week, I've had 3.

Day 1 of the real experiment has just been completed; but no LD's so far.

Hi everyone, new here but may be able to help on this topic (it's how i found the forum actually!)

I was lucky enough to be part of one of Daniel Loves lucidity workshops several years ago (he's the guy who came up with the CAT technique) and it was one of the techniques he shared to help induce lucid dreaming. Was actually really good to be part of the workshop and have the chance to ask questions and share experiences. So i feel like i know more than most on this particular method. Plus it's worked well for me.

I've used it myself on and off when i've had a regular sleep pattern (I work in a cafe and my shift starts reasonably late so it's ideal for me.)

I'll share with you what i can remember from the workshop as from what i've seen online the CAT method is sometimes taught a little strictly and that can put some people off, this isn't the impression I got of the techique from Daniel himself.

First thing i remember which relates to what people have already been saying, is that Daniel mentioned that whilst the technique itself is geared up for inducing lucid dreams in the "sleep in days", that more often than not the preperation week and non "sleep in days" also seem to have an increased likelyhood of Lucidity. His theory was that this is due to the process of lucid dream activation being related to the mindset of "setting an internal alarm clock" (you know when you think to yourself "i want to get up at so and so a time" and you do) that the focus on a new sleep timetable hightens the activity of awareness in the mind and that in itself improves chances.
I've found this, whenever i use the CAT method that I generally start having lucid dreams in the first preperation week (maybe one or two) and then veyr often in the actual main stage of the method.

Also he was very clear that the CAT method wasn't set in stone, that the basic principles should be experimented with to try and find the best fit for each individual. So getting up whenever you like on the "sleep in days" is completely up to you. I know i do and it works best for me that way.

The basic idea of the whole thing is that the earlier wake up times make your mind and body start becoming more active at that earlier time regardless of if you sleep in or not.

One thing i've not seen mentioned anywhere online is Daniels other variation on the CAT method called WILD-CAT. WILD-CAT is basically exactly the same as the CAT method, only rather than staying asleep straight through on the "sleep in days" you set the alarm for the earlier time and then once you've woken up you let yourself go back to sleep.
So you still sleep in to the later time, you just let yourself wake up and return to sleep. It's kind of like the WBTB method on steroids (and much more effective in my experience).
The beauty of WILD-CAT is that it definitely increases your chances of WILDs and that also you can use it alongside other methods like the counting yourself to sleep method, or MILD.

In my personal experience, I have the most lucid dreams when i combine WILD-CAT, MILD and the counting myself to sleep methods (1 im dreaming, 2 i'm dreaming etc. etc.)

It seemed to be a similar situation with the other workshop participants too.

I'm a big fan of the CAT method and WILD-CAT for obvious reasons, i think the principles behind them are sound and logical. Plus, having had a chance to meet Daniel personally and get more of a feel for the method, it's not as strict or as hard work as some people seem to think. It's just the basic idea that if you are used to getting up at a certain time, and then dont, your brain is going to be more alert and that's what lucid dreaming is all about.

So don't be afraid to experiment with CAT, i've found it quite flexible and very effective. As long as you understand the principles behind it you can't go wrong.

James

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

Hi everyone, new here but may be able to help on this topic (it's how i found the forum actually!)

I was lucky enough to be part of one of Daniel Loves lucidity workshops several years ago (he's the guy who came up with the CAT technique) and it was one of the techniques he shared to help induce lucid dreaming. Was actually really good to be part of the workshop and have the chance to ask questions and share experiences. So i feel like i know more than most on this particular method. Plus it's worked well for me.

I've used it myself on and off when i've had a regular sleep pattern (I work in a cafe and my shift starts reasonably late so it's ideal for me.)

I'll share with you what i can remember from the workshop as from what i've seen online the CAT method is sometimes taught a little strictly and that can put some people off, this isn't the impression I got of the techique from Daniel himself.

First thing i remember which relates to what people have already been saying, is that Daniel mentioned that whilst the technique itself is geared up for inducing lucid dreams in the "sleep in days", that more often than not the preperation week and non "sleep in days" also seem to have an increased likelyhood of Lucidity. His theory was that this is due to the process of lucid dream activation being related to the mindset of "setting an internal alarm clock" (you know when you think to yourself "i want to get up at so and so a time" and you do) that the focus on a new sleep timetable hightens the activity of awareness in the mind and that in itself improves chances.
I've found this, whenever i use the CAT method that I generally start having lucid dreams in the first preperation week (maybe one or two) and then veyr often in the actual main stage of the method.

Also he was very clear that the CAT method wasn't set in stone, that the basic principles should be experimented with to try and find the best fit for each individual. So getting up whenever you like on the "sleep in days" is completely up to you. I know i do and it works best for me that way.

The basic idea of the whole thing is that the earlier wake up times make your mind and body start becoming more active at that earlier time regardless of if you sleep in or not.

One thing i've not seen mentioned anywhere online is Daniels other variation on the CAT method called WILD-CAT. WILD-CAT is basically exactly the same as the CAT method, only rather than staying asleep straight through on the "sleep in days" you set the alarm for the earlier time and then once you've woken up you let yourself go back to sleep.
So you still sleep in to the later time, you just let yourself wake up and return to sleep. It's kind of like the WBTB method on steroids (and much more effective in my experience).
The beauty of WILD-CAT is that it definitely increases your chances of WILDs and that also you can use it alongside other methods like the counting yourself to sleep method, or MILD.

In my personal experience, I have the most lucid dreams when i combine WILD-CAT, MILD and the counting myself to sleep methods (1 im dreaming, 2 i'm dreaming etc. etc.)

It seemed to be a similar situation with the other workshop participants too.

I'm a big fan of the CAT method and WILD-CAT for obvious reasons, i think the principles behind them are sound and logical. Plus, having had a chance to meet Daniel personally and get more of a feel for the method, it's not as strict or as hard work as some people seem to think. It's just the basic idea that if you are used to getting up at a certain time, and then dont, your brain is going to be more alert and that's what lucid dreaming is all about.

So don't be afraid to experiment with CAT, i've found it quite flexible and very effective. As long as you understand the principles behind it you can't go wrong.

James

Tnx! Very helpful stuff!

Glad to be of help.
Be interesting to see if it works well for you. Always been one of my favourite methods.