Thread: How I induce SP

whoopie. this is exactly what im trying to do.

though very often as i get very near sleep, my ability to concentrate depletes to a point where i forget that my goal is to lucid dream.

how do you 'anchor' the story/daydream so as to stay focused on your goal of LDing?

would you mind giving an example of your induction stories.

thanks

Originally Posted by pond weed

whoopie. this is exactly what im trying to do.

though very often as i get very near sleep, my ability to concentrate depletes to a point where i forget that my goal is to lucid dream.

how do you 'anchor' the story/daydream so as to stay focused on your goal of LDing?

would you mind giving an example of your induction stories.

thanks

I usually don't have any issues with this, because as soon as SP hits the story ends and I get into action.
I guess the SP is reminder of what my goal is.

I usually think about whatever subject I am interested in at the time. Once after watching a episode of 'Doctor Who', I told myself a story about me being the Doctor and being able to travel through time.
Another good example to to think about how you want your future to work out. Once I had a speech in college to do, I was deadly nervous about this so I acted the speech in my mind.

If the SP itself doesn't serve as a reminder, i think the best bet is to think about what you would do while in a LD.

I am glad someone else does this too

ah i see

so am i right in saying that this technique of yours, is a fake/pretend dream, to trick your body into thinking you are already asleep, thus induce SP a lot quicker?

also, how do you use the 5 senses with your 'story', do you just use image and sound. do you use taste, smell, touch at all, if so how?


thank you very much mrdeano, i would like to hear on any more progress you make

Originally Posted by pond weed

ah i see

so am i right in saying that this technique of yours, is a fake/pretend dream, to trick your body into thinking you are already asleep, thus induce SP a lot quicker?

also, how do you use the 5 senses with your 'story', do you just use image and sound. do you use taste, smell, touch at all, if so how?


thank you very much mrdeano, i would like to hear on any more progress you make

Yes, that's a really good way of putting it. It also allows you to forget about your body and its needs.

My story's are as if it was actually happening, so I guess I use all five senses. I have a habit of going back and fourth with my story.
A few times I would add an element into the story which I haven't explained to myself yet, so I would go back and edit some of the story to make the element relevant (if that makes sense).

Oh and by the way, sometimes your mind will wander onto other things completely. You need to keep the story going in your head.

Thanks =] I would love to hear your results.

hiya

iv been having a bit of trouble getting the story/imagination going. it sounds wierd, but when attempting a WILD, i find it very hard to visualise.
its like writters block. but i know that once i get into it, with an exciting story it will be easy to maintain.

i tried this:

go through the alphabet, stop at a random letter, see what word evolves from that letter.
i got 'L' ....................lawn mower, BOOOOORING.

i tried using all my senses, but after touching the grass, i got bored.



how do you come up with exciting/fresh adventures?

thanks for the help mrdeano, you are a star

I do something like this except I imagine myself walking on a beach on a warm day and let my imagination take over and whatever happens, happens. Or an open, grassy field.

I also imagine that time is going slower... About half speed.

Originally Posted by pond weed

hiya

iv been having a bit of trouble getting the story/imagination going. it sounds wierd, but when attempting a WILD, i find it very hard to visualise.
its like writters block. but i know that once i get into it, with an exciting story it will be easy to maintain.

i tried this:

go through the alphabet, stop at a random letter, see what word evolves from that letter.
i got 'L' ....................lawn mower, BOOOOORING.

i tried using all my senses, but after touching the grass, i got bored.



how do you come up with exciting/fresh adventures?

thanks for the help mrdeano, you are a star

To be honest, the good old 'dream girl' story always works for me.
You could think of your favorite movie and put yourself in the shoes of the main character. Do whatever you would do in that given situation...
You need to think of something that really interests you.

I bet you get dumped into some crazy dreams if you use zombies as a starting point

If anyone has a hard time visualizing a scene from scratch, try a recent vivid memory. It can be easier to remember something than to create something new. It does not have to be visual, either. A memory of how it feels to jog down the street, or swim in your pool, or rock on a sailboat can all work too.

This is an interesting technique but to me it sounds an awful lot like MILD except you are using it to enter SP instead of a LD. Once I tried imagining a scene where I see a waterfall in the background and I was standing on tall hill infront of a big apple tree with the waterfall in the background. I could hear the waterfall sound, touch the apple to feel its texture, hear myself cutting it, but, it's taste and smell are what I couldn't replicate. I do have to say though that I did get into the scene but I found that I was fast forwarding through it instead of taking my time which broke my scene

ok. so somthing that really interests me. the wee problem with that is that topics that interest me are usualy topics i have thought about / imagined before.
and as a result i knida just end up fastforwarding through that, like bigfan said.

well i guess its somthing ill experiment with.
thanks chaps

Originally Posted by pond weed

ok. so somthing that really interests me. the wee problem with that is that topics that interest me are usualy topics i have thought about / imagined before.
and as a result i knida just end up fastforwarding through that, like bigfan said.

well i guess its somthing ill experiment with.
thanks chaps

I think our best option would be to create a totally different scene, one that we haven't thought about before

Originally Posted by BigFan

I think our best option would be to create a totally different scene, one that we haven't thought about before

definatly.

come to think of it. if i am in a familiar place, one i have been before. and i am going somwhere, i am always thinking about my destination, because that is my goal, to get there.

and when i visualize all of this, i cant help but jump to the destination because that where im going.
and as a result i get a very unstable / jumpy visualisation.


ill try thinking of an apealing scenario in advance, but once i have thought of it, i will push it out my mind, until its time for a WILD.

(i say in advance because trying to scan my mind for an apealing senario that i dont think about much, at 4 in the morning will be way to hard).

ill try tonight. sweet dreams

Originally Posted by pond weed

(i say in advance because trying to scan my mind for an apealing senario that i dont think about much, at 4 in the morning will be way to hard).

That's what always gets me. I can never think straight when I first wake up for my WBTB. It is like I completely forget how to WILD, even though I was thinking about it all day, and have done it a million times.