Is this an induction technique?

**Estok** · 08-29-2004 02:52 PM

I am in bed comfortably, then i start to follow the visuals in my mind and add my own imaginations. For example, my mind would have the image of an oil truck, then I would imaging me grabbing the tank, hold in my hand as if it was a coke can. Then I would imagine crushing the can in my hand, but this is the funny part.

When I imagine myself crushing it, my real hand twitched, and that woke me up from the thoughts. Similar situations also happens with sound, like my imagined doorbell, sound of cars passing by and such.

The quality of visual content in the imagination is almost as good as a normal dream, the only difference is that there is a growing black frame around it. If the black frame grows out of my visual, I would believe that I was dreaming. I think that if the visual transits into dream quality I won't wake up, but not if touch or sound transit first, it

Is this an induction technique? That maybe if I am tired enough it would work ok? Should i imagine the touch and sound more vividly to bridge the gaps during transition? Should I not close my eyes doing this and focus on imagining touch and sound, since I can tolerate visual better?

Or will i just won't fall asleep doing this?

**WaveShaper** · 08-29-2004 05:53 PM

well the best thing when visualising is to make it very vivid. REALLY imagine the touch - feel the temperature, surface texture, weight etc. REALLY see everything - feel the brightness, temperature, colour, clarity etc. This will help your brain to believe this is real and the lucid dream will also be clearer.
But remember to keep saying "I am dreaming"

**Estok** · 08-30-2004 12:52 PM

Thanks for reply

Do you use a similar method to induce lucid dream?

I was trying it again and found that it is not always easy imagine it vividly. I mean, if it is that easy why would I need LD... What if you go to bed while listening to a soft seashore sound while imagining yourself on the beach?

I couldn't reproduce the vividness like the night before, but I got an ld anyway. I didn't doing anything to induce the ld.

From my dream journal, it seems that I need to let my mind flush out about 3 dreams and then i can DILD. Kind of passive but that is all i can do before able to go all hardcore demanding an ld.

**Objective** · 11-15-2011 04:56 AM

It's called MILD if you fall asleep afterward, and LDD if you're awake.
To imagine it vividly you should try to visualize it normally without repeating or things.
Like writing, you should never run out of materials to visualize. Ignore the fact that you're still in bed (I don't know how to explain to you how to ignore things, so Google it) and simply go on thinking what should happen like you're making a story, a really ridiculous and weak one, soon you'll forget that you're thinking and things will go on its own accord.
(You should repeat 'This is not real' while thinking this up too, if you want to simulate lucidity)

**faceonmars** · 11-16-2011 08:33 PM

Nice post. When we visualize we are activating the Secondary Visual Cortices (aka cortex) in the Occipital lobe of our big human brain. Interestingly enough, this is the same area that we activate when we dream. If nothing else it is a great way to fall asleep. I have found it to be an excellent way to induce a lucid dream... but what works for me might not work for you.

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