Thread: WBTB Failure.

That's always discouraging Just keep trying. I am so bad at WBTB but every once in a while it works. I also imagine a vivid dream scene and I find it helps a lot. I see the dream scene appear and I run into it.

haha Im a little discouraged all around... I cant get anything to work again but Im still tryin

Don't be discouraged. I've had so many times when I almost gave up and then suddenly bam I'd have a LD. Eventually I made a rule with myself to never let myself feel discouraged again. I still miss dream signs, I still have failed WILDs but now I just laugh at and learn from them.

Just keep at it. Keep doing RCs, keep recalling and recording your dreams, and keep analysing yourself and trying different things. Try stimulating your brain with some logic puzzles during your WBTB. I find that really helps but the WBTB must be done after at least 5 hours sleep. I also find the CAT method very successful.

It will all be worth it when you have your next LD!

yeah I always make sure Ive had enough sleep before I try. Ill try the puzzles too thanks for the tip. My recall has went from at least 2-3 dreams a night to almost nothing, just bits of a dream the last few nights...

Make sure you wear a sleep mask. That makes a huge difference to dream recall.

Three WBTB attempts in one night are two too many. That will most likely mess with your sleep cycle, and dream recall. Cut it down to one.

Lucid dreaming takes practice. Keep it up, persevere. Continue trying for at least two weeks before you complain again.

Originally Posted by Patrickstar12

I tried 3 times last night and failed WBTB. I couldnt stay focused the first time. the other two just didnt work. I was repating to myself I would know I was dreaming, I was thinking of a very vivid dream scene and I dont even remember a normal dream after that.

Woah! So is that a wbtb? Imagining a vivd dream scene and then dreaming about what you imagined? I've been trying to do something like that for several days but with no success.

How do you fail a WBTB???

Originally Posted by Shift

How do you fail a WBTB???

hmm you know thats kinda why im here to learn things to help me do it right and not fail. Im glad you are so much help

Originally Posted by Patrickstar12

hmm you know thats kinda why im here to learn things to help me do it right and not fail. Im glad you are so much help

I'm just confused. To WBTB all you do is wake up. So I'm wondering how you could fail that. Did you mean WILD?

I just didnt go lucid..I am not sure why...

Originally Posted by Patrickstar12

I just didnt go lucid..I am not sure why...

It's not a for sure thing. I mean you still have to recognize you are dreaming if you don't WILD.

Originally Posted by hellohihello

It's not a for sure thing. I mean you still have to recognize you are dreaming if you don't WILD.

I know I still have to recognize its a dream and there is the reason it can fail . I just dont know why I wasnt able to recognize it :/ only thing to do is try again tho right

Originally Posted by Patrickstar12

I know I still have to recognize its a dream and there is the reason it can fail . I just dont know why I wasnt able to recognize it :/ only thing to do is try again tho right

Yup you will get it eventually

If you start trying to WILD, and if you fail you can always roll over and do the WBTB.

That way you can have a better chance to LD... that is if you can complete the wild.

I have a hard time staying focused while attemptimg to WILD. either cant stop thinking of just random things or have to shift my body no matter how hard I try not to. I have tried a few different techniques to WILD I have found on DVs .

Originally Posted by Patrickstar12

I have a hard time staying focused while attemptimg to WILD. either cant stop thinking of just random things or have to shift my body no matter how hard I try not to. I have tried a few different techniques to WILD I have found on DVs .

In that case... keep trying your WBTB Then

It does take practice though, I have only completed one today but it was a FA and I forgot to RC

Yeah I try to practice WILDing still so I can eventually stay focused. I usually wake up during the night after a while anyways so I try to WBTB. its usually around 4-5 am so its good time for me to try .

When you wake up at 4.00 in the morning, try this:
Try recalling ANY bits of a dream you just had (or had during the night, or even a night before), and when you decide to go back to sleep: concentrate on that dream-bit you had and imagine that you found out that it was a dream.
I picture myself going through a recent dream scenario and thinking "How did I get here..what's this..that can't be right.. I must be dreaming! (I'm think there's a name for this, I think I read it somewhere...) .
Like this my brain is still in the "dream mode" but I'm also thinking logically.
Just repeat the thing in your head, don't attempt to WILD. Lucidity then for me happenens during the rest of the night, (DILDs).
Maybe this helps.

Originally Posted by blueSong

When you wake up at 4.00 in the morning, try this:
Try recalling ANY bits of a dream you just had (or had during the night, or even a night before), and when you decide to go back to sleep: concentrate on that dream-bit you had and imagine that you found out that it was a dream.
I picture myself going through a recent dream scenario and thinking "How did I get here..what's this..that can't be right.. I must be dreaming! (I'm think there's a name for this, I think I read it somewhere...) .
Like this my brain is still in the "dream mode" but I'm also thinking logically.
Just repeat the thing in your head, don't attempt to WILD. Lucidity then for me happenens during the rest of the night, (DILDs).
Maybe this helps.

Yup, that's the MILD method.

I will try the MILD tonight. I had a false awakening last night first one that Ive had that I have been able to recall. It wasnt a LD but my recall of it was good, FA is pretty strange.

ive been setting my alarm to go off every few hrs every single day since july 2008 and i still cant lucid once a week