Thread: Dream Control: the complete tutorial

Maybe this should be obvious, but I'm very new to LDs.

How do you change the dream scene without forcing it? I very frequently end up in my grandmother's house for some reason, but of course i'd much rather be at the beach

Originally Posted by Amelaclya

Maybe this should be obvious, but I'm very new to LDs.

How do you change the dream scene without forcing it? I very frequently end up in my grandmother's house for some reason, but of course i'd much rather be at the beach

I always use mirrors or walls.

Just walk up to a mirror/wall and think to yourself:
"This wall/mirror is actually a portal to _(Place you want to be)_!"
Then just walk through it, and you've teleported


The key with using passive control is that there has to be a semi-logical reason that your able to do whatever it is your wanting to do. This reason can be anything at all.
Your imagination is the limit.

Great technique BillyBob.. definately going to try it!

Yeh i am going to try this tonight.

Ah, Nice tut there bud.

I tried (pretty feebly) to get across the concept of passive control in my placebo tut. I, of course, suck at explaining and you've done such a nice job with this tut.

Personally, I don't tend to force at all. The only time I infringe on the dream laws is time control. Even then I simply winder out loud "What would have happened if it had been like this 5 minutes ago" And poof I'm back.

Something Billy didn't mention: You can make ANYTHING do ANYTHING as long as you tell yourself the cause and effect are related. I think the example I used in my placebo tut was that I killed a samurai by opening a pink umbrella.

Also relating to the subject, passive control is what makes up semi-lucids. (see my levels of lucidity tut in my sig) Passive control is vital for anyone who wants control in their dreams without going though the painful and restricting process of realization. Just like forced control does, realizing you're dreaming consciously will tend to adversely affect your vividness and length. Practice passive control and you may get a Semi yet!

ok ive got an idea so tell me if this would work

im in a room and i want to be able to do forced control without realy doing forced control so useing passive i open a door and there is this guy standing there and he says " he this room just go flooded with raditation that mutated you you can now control the univers and twist reality"


im going to try tell me if it wil work

Thanks alot man! Reading this thread gave me a DILD tonight.

I was in my house just chilling. I decided to try and make a woman I know appear, so I went to the front door and stood there a while, picturing that my friend would come over for a casual visit. Then I opened the door, and there she was!

Now, somewhy most of my dreams contain very violent Dream characters who's out to hurt me for some reason. And this dream was no exception..
When I had invited my friend in, a few other guys broke into my place and started harrassing me. I tried to DEMAND them to dissapear, but one of them just walked up to me and punched me in the face (and damn, that actually hurt).

So again I remembered this thread, and I started picturing the floor being slippery wet, because I had just been mopping the place. And suddenly all these guys starts tripping over! No matter how much they tried to stand up they kept falling over again.
I then say to myself that i've got superhuman strength. So I grab one of them by their feet and start swinging him around. I let go and he goes straight into a wall.

When they all recover I tell them that they should leave, and they actually listened to me it was brilliant...

Omg i really need to try this Passive Control, i had never even thought of it,
forced control was all i ever used.
thanx so much for this tutorial!

... one word!, WOW! you put so much time and effort into this!, i really respect you for this. what a great addition to the site!, im deffinatly going to bare this in mind and use it for future LD's.. thanks alot -Dream-boat-...

ok ive got an idea so tell me if this would work

im in a room and i want to be able to do forced control without realy doing forced control so useing passive i open a door and there is this guy standing there and he says " he this room just go flooded with raditation that mutated you you can now control the univers and twist reality"


im going to try tell me if it wil work

Ohh, so thats what I've been doing wrong! I haven't managed to have many lengthy LDs at all. Thanks for the tutorial, this will DEFINITELY help me a lot!

What shall i say?
You're a genius!

Originally Posted by relkon2

ok ive got an idea so tell me if this would work

im in a room and i want to be able to do forced control without realy doing forced control so useing passive i open a door and there is this guy standing there and he says " he this room just go flooded with raditation that mutated you you can now control the univers and twist reality"


im going to try tell me if it wil work

That might be harder than you think. Try going on the phone, and order a free superpill for instant delivery. And what do you know, it instantly arrives!

Now for my question. If I obtain superpowers or whatever, can I retain them? As in, will I be able to use them in the next dream w/o obtaining them again? Will they stay with me?

This has helped me so much, thanks to this tutorial, I had the best LD ever last night!

I've read your tutorial before, and tried the passive control technique, but I guess I was still forcing stuff. Anyway my LDs got really short like yours did and not very vivid, so last night I decided I was definitely going to take my time and not force anything if I got lucid. Luckily I did! I had so much fun, I even went through a mirror and ended up EXACTLY where I wanted to be. It was super vivid and so amazing, so thank you so much! I am never going to force anything/one to appear again.

I got a question about control so i figured I'd post it here instead of a new topic

I haven't tried this yet but was wondering if anyone else has. Say I'm having trouble flying and can't figure out how. Would it work by manifesting a 'magical pill' that induces flight help? (ofc 'eating' it then) I thought maybe this was a possible way to help other things also.

Originally Posted by shotbirds

I got a question about control so i figured I'd post it here instead of a new topic

I haven't tried this yet but was wondering if anyone else has. Say I'm having trouble flying and can't figure out how. Would it work by manifesting a 'magical pill' that induces flight help? (ofc 'eating' it then) I thought maybe this was a possible way to help other things also.

Sure, of course! Any reason is ok really, as long as you have one. It could be as simple as "I can fly because God says I can."

Ah okay. hopefully I LD soon, i wanna test that out. I also notice when i look back at my dreams I recall having trouble flying but also flying with great ease, but only when I don't think about. I also was flying through walls and didnt realize HOW I did it until I woke up, by thinking of myself as a 'spirit'. This also enabled me to seem invisible to DCs

Thanks, im going to try this. I have been using forced control and I usually don't succeed, but whenever I try too hard I wake up.

This should help, thanks again.

Excellent!

Note to self : there is no spoon!

Jokes aside, thanks for the good read, I learned a lot! Can't wait to try these tactics out...time to get some ZZzs

Thank you!! Tried this tonight and it helped a lot!

Used this on my first LD since reading the thread, helped alot, the LD was the most vivid and actually best control I have had yet, also longer than most of my LDs.

Passive control for the win!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nm0tZ3bJP6Y

Originally Posted by BillyBob

Dream Control
The Complete Tutorial

Ever wanted to control your lucid dreams effortlessly and without having to worry about "accidentally" failing when you come apon a giant tirantula or something of the likes?
Well have no fear! Read on and you'll learn the two basic methods of controlling your lucid dreams. You'll also learn the ups and the downs of each way and get in-depth explanations and examples of each.

Because being a god is alot easier when you know how

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Ok. First you have to understand what I mean when I say "theres two ways of controlling your dreams". It's pretty simple actually, first of all theres Forced Control, and secondly Passive Control.

How are these different you ask? Well, (to make things a bit more simple)
Hold the "ctrl" key and press "f", copy/paste whichever of these you want to look at in! ):
Forced Control:-------> <81672>

Passive Control:-------> <29456>

(Make sure you read both before continuing on)

So there it is, the two methods of controlling your dreams.
You should know that these can be used together, just will the jetpack that you need for flying into existence and fly away, I warn you though, that jetpack willage will still adversely effect your dream. I advise against it

Summary:

Only Force control when you have to, I only told you about it because sometimes its better to lose your dream than to remain in it.

Use passive control techniques freely, they only add to your dream experience.

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(note: will be updating this topic soon for readability and to make it easier on the eyes )

Have fun.

Just felt this was such a great thread, so I'll disregard that it's old and write anyway.

I actually tried out both forced and passive dream control last night without knowing the difference! It was my second LD and I was sitting at a table in this room with some people.

I tried to summon this really hot girl under the table, forcing her to appear there, but it didn't work at all.

So I took a different approach and asked a person in the room to just send the hot girl in. I barely finished the sentence before I saw that beautiful girl walking into the room from a door that I hadn't seen before.

I woke up 10 seconds later, but I think I'm on the right way!
Next LD, I'll just take it slow and go with the flow.