Thread: I really need help, i cant do it

Sounds like you aren't lucid. You have to know that it's a dream while you're in it. You just described a regular dream, in which you have free will to an extent, you just don't know that you're dreaming during said time.

Indeed, Ninja has a point. Are you aware of your dreaming state while you're dreaming ? If not, then the dream is out of control, and there isn't much you can do about the content.

In the other case, most of the dream content is controlled by your will, so with a little experience you can do just about anything. It's not important to remember what you wish(ed) to control, as you say, prior to dreaming moreover LDing.

What's important is to attain and maintain the lucid state as long as you can, even if you are taking no part in the scenario, of the first LDs at least. After lucidity comes control. No rush.

Talented people in any discipline are also people used to repeating the same tasks and movements, over and over, so that they become natural, even if they look complex. To me it's the same with LDs.

People gain control over the dream content because they are used to dream lucidity. Unless you already are used to it ? In which case, I recommend narrating your dreams as you are "living" them, but one step further than what's actually going on.

Now that i have been trying to controll my dreams, such i started making attempts 6 days ago, and now i find myself incapble of sleeping, i dont fall asleep as i usually do, i lay there for 2 hours, then next thing i know is i am wakeing up, prior to the las 6 days i have been sleeping perfect as well as dreaming, but after theses 6 days i cant sleep nor can i dream nor can i rember my dream, before have sleep i did meditation to relax and controll my brain, i have been doing that from 6 days now, and nothing, no pressure nor anger, but its been hell, havent sleeped quietly for 6 days now, i am just curios, does them ergonomics of where sleeping such as bed or couch, have any effect on how stable your mind will be, say if you are sleeping with something poking your stomach, will that effect your dreaming as well as sleeping?

Sorry, but if you think you can't....You are right.

Yep, listen to DreamChaser. You obviously have doubts, I know for a fact that they are the cause of your lack of control. You don`t need any tips on how to live, right? Well nothing is different in the dream world. It`s all a big mind game ...

Yeah i found that doing a reality check makes all the difference.
And yeah to stop it from still going forward yell that you know its a
dream or do a reality check
good luck
xx.

ok. i think i know what is going on. you cant control your dream because it is a subconsious block. you may think you can do it, but deep down you are doubting yourself. i don't really know the ins and outs of this, but it's worth a shot. (this is a theory, by the way.)

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

Sorry, but if you think you can't....You are right.

DreamChaser has encapsulated the point in full right here.

What do you think...?
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Hey, O'nus I just had a thought. thinking back to your little fallacy seminar thing, would dream control be circular logic? XD

Like, in order to control a dream, you need to assume that you CAN. In order to show yourself that you can control it, you have to be able to control it. Stupid logical fallacies =P

Originally Posted by arby

Hey, O'nus I just had a thought. thinking back to your little fallacy seminar thing, would dream control be circular logic? XD

Like, in order to control a dream, you need to assume that you CAN. In order to show yourself that you can control it, you have to be able to control it. Stupid logical fallacies =P

Actually you hit the button on the crux of the lucid dream controversy. The authenticity of lucid dreams relies on circular logic. The debate is over wether or not this is a real issue, etc. Considering where the debate manifests itself, it is very difficult (at this time) to show wether or not it is factual or not. Hence, the debate is aporetic.
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